The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation
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nearjat
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Hey guys
I think nitrous totally sucks with MXE. Makes the experience seem empty and fiendy with lots of mental loops
Dirty is the best word. I thought it was just the nature of MXE because I combined them the first time I tried it but really MXE is best by itself.
I think nitrous totally sucks with MXE. Makes the experience seem empty and fiendy with lots of mental loops
Dirty is the best word. I thought it was just the nature of MXE because I combined them the first time I tried it but really MXE is best by itself.
amanitadine
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Strangely, I find it the least addictive (reinforcing? compulsive?) arylcyclohexylamine I've done, and that is by a considerable margin. Admittedly, when I first took it a few months ago I had a short "honeymoon" period, but that was for precisely the same reasons you listed. It might be wise to factor in my extensive history with dissociatives, and that these sensations, these worlds, are not exactly terra incognita to me, and that I'm not swooning headfirst with newfound love. I know where that leads now
But, after an initial period of frequent experimentation (a few weeks to a month?) my use has tapered to once every few weeks or so. Physically it doesn't lend itself to too heavy of use for me. The larger doses I prefer (75mg i.m.) leave me a bit hungover the next day, and I need to factor that in before I set off. I have gotten the most milage out of it lately with small sublingual doses, and I find it a very nice, relaxed evening in, or pre-bedtime snack. But even this is pretty sporadic for me now. The worlds it can present to me are beautiful and alluring yes, but I know now what rewards are actually likely to come my way, and what is an illusion.It is probably relevant that i have been addicted to just about everything, save for 5HT psychedelics, my one and true love
Cheers
Last Saturday night I dropped 43mg under my tongue and waited. It was my second experience with MXE, and I wasn't going to mix weed with it this time. I started to slightly feel the dose after an hour (200lb, no dissociatives before) and decided to weigh out another 30mg and throw that under my tongue. While I was weighing out the 30mg I felt the initial dose start to kick in, and I knew I'd be in for a great time with the 30mg. I redosed approximately an hour later and didn't quite go into the full MXE state.
I enjoyed the dissociation, labored typing, and frequent smiling as well as the enhancement of music for three hours after my redose, and decided to weigh out 55mg to throw under my tongue. I was on the tail end of it now and was satisfied from before. But I thought hell, I got time and I wanna experience this! So I decided to finish off my bag. I cut it open and dumped out the last of it, no more than 25mg. I put this up my nose around 3 hours after my redose, followed by the 55mg under my tongue around 45 minutes after that.
What happened after was a Christmas miracle. I shot into dissociation, almost bypassing the drunk state and jumping straight into euphoria. I had a fairly short-term memory, my mind racing all over the place. At this point the 60-minute progressive trance mix I had on was rocking my world, completely guiding my trip and my euphoria. I was videochatting with a friend and he was doing his own thing, doing little 5mg bumps of oxy every 20 minutes or so, while I sat on my couch and got sucked into the music.
I would get absorbed in my visualizer (G-Force, definitely check it out... best visualizer ever imo, especially on serotonergics) and be moved by the music. A few minutes later (the time dilation on this stuff is CRAZY) I would snap out of it, and have a small revelation, and I would report it to my friend with labored typing, and proceed to give in to the musical euphoria that defined my entire experience. I was having the time of my life, and I remember typing to my friends, "as of right now I am in love with mxe
".
I decided, after about 2 hours of that (and mostly having come down, easing into the warm, fuzzy afterglow stage) that I should probably head to bed, since I wanted to lay down and still experience some of the MXE before going to sleep. This proved difficult, and I ended up going to bed around 5:15AM but not falling asleep until 7AM (the 55mg dose around 3am), which I guess isn't too bad, but damn, I was tired.
I remember getting into bed and my room was very dark. I love sleeping with all the lights off. I turned over and put my blanket over my head. I was in complete darkness, and I saw little grid patterns of dots and faint basic shapes with my eyes closed and in complete darkness. I've never been a huge fan of CEVs, nor have I ever had any awe-worthy CEVs on anything besides DMT. I drifted off into a groggy, but peaceful sleep.
One noteworthy thing about MXE is the intense amplification of hearing. I went outside at 3am for a cig (after dosing the 55mg) and the light from the street combined with the clouds and snow around made it feel extremely bright. I could hear the occasional car on the highway a half a mile away; the more interesting part being that I could hear the tires hitting bumps on the road. The light amplification made me confused, as my pupils were smaller due to the slight opiate effects. It's crazy to hear every nook and cranny in your house... makes it kind of eerie, I think, which is why MXE is amazing with, and should not be without, music. It does indeed rival MDMA in that area.
Addiction potential... well, I was sad that I killed my bag, but I'm so glad I had that experience. I found myself wishing I had some more. My 250mg sample went quickly. Good thing I had already ordered 2 grams. I can see it getting out of hand... it's a really fun time with more doors to be opened, and I can't wait to explore my mind more with it. I'm hoping to have something closer to a hole with my next experience. I'm thinking 60mg sublingual followed by 20mg sublingual 45 minutes later. However, after a few days of not having any more MXE, the cravings have gone away. It is important to have self control in order to maximize your enjoyment from MXE, both with tolerance, and the anticipation of each experience.
I loved the body numbness, especially in my lips and face. I could walk fairly well... it was like being drunk, except your balance stays with you, and with concentration, you can walk straight. But... on higher doses, like when you're peaking, I found comfort in using the walls to guide me.
Scale distortion is big with MXE. At some points I found my hands humongous and alien, and other times my 15" laptop seemed like a 7" netbook. The "frame dropping" effect I experience with alcohol (looking from point A to point B quickly and not seeing anything in between, only the endpoints) was also abundant with MXE, though not quite as disorienting as with alcohol.
My first experience left me confused and disappointed, because I was expecting something different, having never experienced anything like this before, short of a few lame low-dose DXM trips in my teens. However, the second experience (this one) was much better because I knew what to expect, and I let myself get absorbed in the experience. It's definitely a much different feeling than serotonergics like LSD or DMT, which I love and am most accustomed to.
I have a feeling I'll have a secret love affair with MXE, though. LSD is my true love, but a friend told me he dropped some MXE under his tongue after peaking on two hits of clean LSD and experienced something he couldn't quite put into words. I intend to try this very soon.
The only thing I'm disappointed with is the inability to fully recall the experience, like not being able to quite put it into words, because even you aren't quite sure what happened. It's kind of a cool feeling though; it leaves you wanting to jump in and get another glimpse. Just have some self-control and I think MXE could be the answer. It's recreational and therapeutical.
I love MXE.
I enjoyed the dissociation, labored typing, and frequent smiling as well as the enhancement of music for three hours after my redose, and decided to weigh out 55mg to throw under my tongue. I was on the tail end of it now and was satisfied from before. But I thought hell, I got time and I wanna experience this! So I decided to finish off my bag. I cut it open and dumped out the last of it, no more than 25mg. I put this up my nose around 3 hours after my redose, followed by the 55mg under my tongue around 45 minutes after that.
What happened after was a Christmas miracle. I shot into dissociation, almost bypassing the drunk state and jumping straight into euphoria. I had a fairly short-term memory, my mind racing all over the place. At this point the 60-minute progressive trance mix I had on was rocking my world, completely guiding my trip and my euphoria. I was videochatting with a friend and he was doing his own thing, doing little 5mg bumps of oxy every 20 minutes or so, while I sat on my couch and got sucked into the music.
I would get absorbed in my visualizer (G-Force, definitely check it out... best visualizer ever imo, especially on serotonergics) and be moved by the music. A few minutes later (the time dilation on this stuff is CRAZY) I would snap out of it, and have a small revelation, and I would report it to my friend with labored typing, and proceed to give in to the musical euphoria that defined my entire experience. I was having the time of my life, and I remember typing to my friends, "as of right now I am in love with mxe
".I decided, after about 2 hours of that (and mostly having come down, easing into the warm, fuzzy afterglow stage) that I should probably head to bed, since I wanted to lay down and still experience some of the MXE before going to sleep. This proved difficult, and I ended up going to bed around 5:15AM but not falling asleep until 7AM (the 55mg dose around 3am), which I guess isn't too bad, but damn, I was tired.
I remember getting into bed and my room was very dark. I love sleeping with all the lights off. I turned over and put my blanket over my head. I was in complete darkness, and I saw little grid patterns of dots and faint basic shapes with my eyes closed and in complete darkness. I've never been a huge fan of CEVs, nor have I ever had any awe-worthy CEVs on anything besides DMT. I drifted off into a groggy, but peaceful sleep.
One noteworthy thing about MXE is the intense amplification of hearing. I went outside at 3am for a cig (after dosing the 55mg) and the light from the street combined with the clouds and snow around made it feel extremely bright. I could hear the occasional car on the highway a half a mile away; the more interesting part being that I could hear the tires hitting bumps on the road. The light amplification made me confused, as my pupils were smaller due to the slight opiate effects. It's crazy to hear every nook and cranny in your house... makes it kind of eerie, I think, which is why MXE is amazing with, and should not be without, music. It does indeed rival MDMA in that area.
Addiction potential... well, I was sad that I killed my bag, but I'm so glad I had that experience. I found myself wishing I had some more. My 250mg sample went quickly. Good thing I had already ordered 2 grams. I can see it getting out of hand... it's a really fun time with more doors to be opened, and I can't wait to explore my mind more with it. I'm hoping to have something closer to a hole with my next experience. I'm thinking 60mg sublingual followed by 20mg sublingual 45 minutes later. However, after a few days of not having any more MXE, the cravings have gone away. It is important to have self control in order to maximize your enjoyment from MXE, both with tolerance, and the anticipation of each experience.
I loved the body numbness, especially in my lips and face. I could walk fairly well... it was like being drunk, except your balance stays with you, and with concentration, you can walk straight. But... on higher doses, like when you're peaking, I found comfort in using the walls to guide me.
Scale distortion is big with MXE. At some points I found my hands humongous and alien, and other times my 15" laptop seemed like a 7" netbook. The "frame dropping" effect I experience with alcohol (looking from point A to point B quickly and not seeing anything in between, only the endpoints) was also abundant with MXE, though not quite as disorienting as with alcohol.
My first experience left me confused and disappointed, because I was expecting something different, having never experienced anything like this before, short of a few lame low-dose DXM trips in my teens. However, the second experience (this one) was much better because I knew what to expect, and I let myself get absorbed in the experience. It's definitely a much different feeling than serotonergics like LSD or DMT, which I love and am most accustomed to.
I have a feeling I'll have a secret love affair with MXE, though. LSD is my true love, but a friend told me he dropped some MXE under his tongue after peaking on two hits of clean LSD and experienced something he couldn't quite put into words. I intend to try this very soon.
The only thing I'm disappointed with is the inability to fully recall the experience, like not being able to quite put it into words, because even you aren't quite sure what happened. It's kind of a cool feeling though; it leaves you wanting to jump in and get another glimpse. Just have some self-control and I think MXE could be the answer. It's recreational and therapeutical.
I love MXE.
Shambles
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Strangely, I find it the least addictive (reinforcing? compulsive?) arylcyclohexylamine I've done, and that is by a considerable margin. Admittedly, when I first took it a few months ago I had a short "honeymoon" period, but that was for precisely the same reasons you listed. It might be wise to factor in my extensive history with dissociatives, and that these sensations, these worlds, are not exactly terra incognita to me, and that I'm not swooning headfirst with newfound love. I know where that leads now
It is probably relevant that i have been addicted to just about everything, save for 5HT psychedelics, my one and true love
Cheers
As usual I would agree pretty much with every word of that. Including the "addicted to just about everything, save for 5HT psychedelics my one and true love" bit. Although I've binged on those to similar extent to other drugs, I must admit. But binges stay as binges with psyches. As far as the addiction potential of MXE goes, I'd also have to agree it has by far the least addiction concerns, in my opinion. I
the stuff but have still only gone through less than half a dozen grammes in total even though I can get it easier than I can ketamine at the moment (and for virtually the same price - damn the massive price hikes in UK K-Ville 
). For those having their first real experience of dissociatives on this stuff I imagine they feel the pull more intensely but for those who have used other dissociatives fairly extensively in the past I can't see it becoming a big issue really. Generally speaking anyway - there's bound to be a few who get caught up but nothing like to the extent people do with ket, I'd say.love it
By the way, I'm going to receive counselling to combat my inclination toward drug use. Not my decision, my parent's decision.
They don't just want me rehabilitated from MXE dependency, but want to make sure I never take any drug recreationally ever again, by getting a counsellor who'll perform some professional trickery. I doubt they can make me not want drugs. As it stands, I'd still happily take them, but perhaps not at home any more.
Glad to hear you're feeling good in yourself after what was no doubt a very unpleasant few days
But on the counselling thing, I agree with Transform. Whilst I suppose I can see why some parents may freak and think counselling will "save you" I'd also humbly suggest they are barking up the wrong tree. I've seen drug counsellors on a weekly to monthly basis my entire adult life pretty much (am 35 now and started seeing one when I was around 18 ) and I suspect quite a few may have noticed I'm not exactly abstinent on the drugs front...
Counselling (at least in terms of actually quitting a drug or drugs) will only ever have any effect if the user really, really wants it to. Drug counsellors will tell you exactly the same thing. They can be great if you actually do want to make changes to your patterns of drug use, but if you are only attending to please others it is just a waste of everybody's time really. They can be very helpful to make use of as simply having somebody to talk through any drug issues or concerns you do have if you don't get lumbered with some "Just Say No!!!" obsessed moron though. Mine current one is great - have seen her for 6-7 years now and she's been there as support through many changes I've made over that period. But those changes only changed cos I decided it was what I wanted to do for myself - she's never tried to push me into making any changes cos she's good at her job.
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Aeon Psyche
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I AM NOT READING 40 FUCKING PAGES OF MXE.....Raaagh 
4 days so far on this........
4 days so far on this........
PhyllipThylamine
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Hahaha READ THEM BITCH!
My tinnitus seems more annoying than usual on both mxe & ket...
Personally, I find Ket a little more addictive coz of it's shorter duration. I find the shorter acting chems are more likely to bring on re-dosing & THAT'S what makes them habit-forming. Pick holes in my theory at will lol
My tinnitus seems more annoying than usual on both mxe & ket...
Personally, I find Ket a little more addictive coz of it's shorter duration. I find the shorter acting chems are more likely to bring on re-dosing & THAT'S what makes them habit-forming. Pick holes in my theory at will lol
I AM NOT READING 40 FUCKING PAGES OF MXE.....Raaagh
4 days so far on this........
I read all 59 pages of the last thread and all the 38 pages of this thread now. It took me over a week, probably around 8-10 hours of constant reading. I'm a sponge. I soak that shit up. Hell, I'm pretty sure I was addicted to MXE before I even did it. Heh
Aeon Psyche
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They closed my elemi oil thread :/.......i think..
Sorry, I am Magic......
So Sometimes I don't make sense as much as logic induces..I trip to hard,
forgive me....
I am a personal mistake....
Sorry, I am Magic......
So Sometimes I don't make sense as much as logic induces..I trip to hard,
forgive me....
I am a personal mistake....
Aeon Psyche
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Yeah, I learned a ton and got all psyched up for my MXE. I can't wait to explore some more once my 2g get here.
I'm also getting ~200mg of ketamine soon, and I intend on doing it all within an hour or so, so I can see what a proper "k-hole" is like, and compare it to MXE. Some friends are making it sound like it will overpower my love for MXE :D I hope not, hehe. But nothing will ever top my beautiful Lucy.
I'm also getting ~200mg of ketamine soon, and I intend on doing it all within an hour or so, so I can see what a proper "k-hole" is like, and compare it to MXE. Some friends are making it sound like it will overpower my love for MXE :D I hope not, hehe. But nothing will ever top my beautiful Lucy.
nearjat
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What?
My thoughts exactly... hahaha
nearjat
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LOL
Aeon Psyche is currently drugs
Aeon Psyche is currently drugs
2charlyecho
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I have also quit MJ and GBL after some amazing self reflection sessions on MXE. 2.5 weeks and counting . It seems to be very useful for addictions and habitual behaviour.
Now the thing is, could MXE be used to stop/prevent an MXE addiction? Now that would be amazing.
might be possible, never know!I did go for a week without MXE during a vacation last week, no problems at all. Previously I had it ever day or 2 for 2 weeks. No MJ or GBl cravings whatsoever when not taking mxe btw.
farmaz
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No troll here my freind, that was honest to god opinion. I quit smoking salvia cause i was having a BAD reaction to it, its quite common for human's to leave things alone if they have a bad reaction to them, its clear that some people aint as wise as others.
That guy who did all the mxe & had a bad reaction reminds me of a piece a comic (or a voice of logical reason IMO) did called bill hicks........."Today a young man on acid … thought he could fly … jumped out of a building … what a tragedy!" What a dick. He's an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first? Check it out? You don't see geese lined up to catch elevators to fly south; they fly from the fucking ground. He's an idiot. He's dead. Good! We lost a moron? Fucking celebrate. There's one less moron in the world.
Could not have said it better myself!!!
stick that in your troll pipe & smoke it!!!
Your example doesn't make sense/is really really lame. Bill Hicks said try taking off from the ground first. I'm pretty jsPete did that, if you'd be following his posts you'd realise his approach was deliberate and considered. Anybody doing this drug is entering new territory, your entire post is based on the notion that he should've known better?? what are you talking about ?. Don't you get the whole concept of research chemicals, someone has to find out about these things before you can make any of these considerations.
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