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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

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I read all 59 pages of the last thread and all the 38 pages of this thread now. It took me over a week, probably around 8-10 hours of constant reading. I'm a sponge. I soak that shit up. Hell, I'm pretty sure I was addicted to MXE before I even did it. Heh


This, while waiting for my order to arrive, i sponged all pages from first thread, and about day later i found there was second thread and got all excited again. <3<3
 
Anyone notice any issue, like increased intestinal gas and mucus from nose and throat ?

Might be just me as I do suffer IBS occasionally.


I did have the same, but im also on the way to surgery next month for my nose, since it creates way too much fluid / mucus compared to normal person. It's kinda like asthma but without the breathing failures. I'm also a smoker so i do have daily problems with them. I also noticed heavier cough and more intense, but this may just be becouse of the numbiness of the body causing it.
 
Your example doesn't make sense/is really really lame. Bill Hicks said try taking off from the ground first. I'm pretty jsPete did that, if you'd be following his posts you'd realise his approach was deliberate and considered. Anybody doing this drug is entering new territory, your entire post is based on the notion that he should've known better?? what are you talking about ?. Don't you get the whole concept of research chemicals, someone has to find out about these things before you can make any of these considerations.

I couldn't have been more deliberate with how I have approached MXE these past few months. I would consider each dose carefully, based on likely intensity and duration. I'd pick the perfect album for each experience, from Lifeforms to Orb's Journey to the Ultraworld, I'd dose up, lie down, wait for it to kick in and turn out the lights. This routine was always done at night, usually after 22:00. I believe the reason I got 'caught' so to speak is that I dosed at 20:00 and reached the peak of the experience whilst my parents were still wide awake. Course now I seriously regret this decision.

But you see that was the level of detail I had in my MXE routine. Everything needed to be familiar so as to reduce the mania, the crux of many a trip. I couldn't have been more careful.

This is less me proving my own idiocy, than me proving MXE is too powerful to control. No amount of consideration can determine what one does whilst in that hole.
 
Dont take it too harsh. I had the same episode once on ketamine. I was staying at my sisters house and when she and her husband went to sleep I went to the guests room and I decided to do 100mg I.M. ket and watch Waking Life lying in bed.
Next thing I remember is my sister and her hub at the door,. watching me in the bed, stuttering, pointing to the screen, very, very, veeeeery keted. telling them to "see the movie" ...
It wasn't my intention to wake them up, sometimes you get "vocal" on dissociatives.
 
But you see that was the level of detail I had in my MXE routine. Everything needed to be familiar so as to reduce the mania, the crux of many a trip. I couldn't have been more careful.

yes you could:\

dont take full on huge doses while other people are in the house with you
 
careful or not, the circumstance itself is what got you in trouble.

full-on dissociated states should only occur in the safety of trusted friends who:
A) don't mind if you strip naked and start screaming gibberish
B) are able to keep you safe in case you decide to start frying bacon whilst "away from home" in the head

not in the presence of parental units who care very deeply for your well-being and have NO KNOWLEDGE of what drug you're taking or the proper course of action in case of overdose or other emergency.
 
yes you could:\

dont take full on huge doses while other people are in the house with you

The whole point with his parents in the house is a bit laboured, I understand that moralistic point about respecting your parents roof and all that stuff, but we are talking about drugs here where if it wasn't parents, it'd be neighbours or roommates, and parents are analogous to authority figures like the police, and with drug use authority is often not obeyed to the letter. So we shouldn't be coming off on some moralistic high with this, all these get rules bent. I think maybe a bigger issue is with jsPete's age, I'm guessing still teenage and I wouldn't recommend experimenting so much at that age.. but also that's not for me to say... and by the sounds of it, this happened to be an honest mistake, not some foolish act of idiocy. Most normal people would think we're all being reckless/foolish by experimenting with RC's in the first place, so we should understand there is personal judgement to be made here, we all choose these paths and this one has a certain amount of risk, straight up, regardless of how careful you are.
 
The whole point with his parents in the house is a bit laboured, I understand that moralistic point about respecting your parents roof and all that stuff, but we are talking about drugs here where if it wasn't parents, it'd be neighbours or roommates, and parents are analogous to authority figures like the police, and with drug use authority is often not obeyed to the letter. So we shouldn't be coming off on some moralistic high with this, all these get rules bent. I think maybe a bigger issue is with jsPete's age, I'm guessing still teenage and I wouldn't recommend experimenting so much at that age.. but also that's not for me to say... and by the sounds of it, this happened to be an honest mistake, not some foolish act of idiocy. Most normal people would think we're all being reckless/foolish by experimenting with RC's in the first place, so we should understand there is personal judgement to be made here, we all choose these paths and this one has a certain amount of risk, straight up, regardless of how careful you are.

I'm 19 years old, have my 20th coming up this month. I appreciate that doing drugs under my parent's roof is not an ideal situation to be in, however I have already lived away from home for a year, and it is only because of circumstances regarding university applications that I am even at home at all this academic year. I'm working full time for the time being.

So yes, technically I am a teen living at home with mum and dad, but in reality I'm a young adult temporarily living at home.

Also I'm worried this is derailing the thread somewhat. Let's get back to discussing lovely little mexythexetamexy.
 
careful or not, the circumstance itself is what got you in trouble.

Full-on dissociated states should only occur in the safety of trusted friends who:
A) don't mind if you strip naked and start screaming gibberish
b) are able to keep you safe in case you decide to start frying bacon whilst "away from home" in the head

not in the presence of parental units who care very deeply for your well-being and have no knowledge of what drug you're taking or the proper course of action in case of overdose or other emergency.

...<3
 
I'm 19 years old, have my 20th coming up this month. I appreciate that doing drugs under my parent's roof is not an ideal situation to be in, however I have already lived away from home for a year, and it is only because of circumstances regarding university applications that I am even at home at all this academic year. I'm working full time for the time being.

So yes, technically I am a teen living at home with mum and dad, but in reality I'm a young adult temporarily living at home.

Also I'm worried this is derailing the thread somewhat. Let's get back to discussing lovely little mexythexetamexy.

I feel you bro...

I was sent away at 17 for cocaine, and got back home at 18. Spent the better part of a year making sandwiches full-time, while all my friends were at college.

It's no fun living at home with your parents at that age... Thank god I too went away to school in August of that year.
 
JSpete......ok maybe i was a bit harsh, i take some of it back but not all of it.

still seems kinda dumb to me in some of the actions you got up to & i hold to that. I done weird stuff before when i was living at my moms house before but never while they were in the lounge etc etc.

1 time a few mates & me did datura, i was still tripping balls when my mom & step-dad came back but they had been gone for 24 hours.

took 5g of liberty caps when they went to bed 1 night & i woke them up from laughing my ass off & they came in to my room at 5am.

still gotta be damm carefull though with RC's imo. having a bad time on them is a sign not to carry on taking that chemical imo.

maybe ether will be a better option for you in the future
 
JSpete......ok maybe i was a bit harsh, i take some of it back but not all of it.

still seems kinda dumb to me in some of the actions you got up to & i hold to that. I done weird stuff before when i was living at my moms house before but never while they were in the lounge etc etc.

1 time a few mates & me did datura, i was still tripping balls when my mom & step-dad came back but they had been gone for 24 hours.

took 5g of liberty caps when they went to bed 1 night & i woke them up from laughing my ass off & they came in to my room at 5am.

still gotta be damm carefull though with RC's imo. having a bad time on them is a sign not to carry on taking that chemical imo.

maybe ether will be a better option for you in the future

Ether? I've always wanted to walk like Raoul Duke.

I'll meet you halfway and admit that dosing whilst my parents were still up was an unwise decision, but like you've experienced with parents intruding on your delerient/psychedelic experiences, it just happens sometimes. You didn't know you were going to be in hysterics loud enough to wake the parents, same as I didn't know I was going to be so dramatically hysterical.
 
I'm yet to experience this aforementioned unpredictable behavior on MXE, and that's even on doses of 200mg+ taken within a timeframe of about 2 hours. (With a lot of tolerance, just to note).

This may in part be due to me never allowing myself to close my eyes and drift off with MXE, I don't enjoy the sensation - I can only enjoy it when I can find a simple task to do repetitively, which leaves me in full control of my actions.

I just want to note an observation however, now that I have heavy tolerance to this chemical, I find that doses of 60mg leaves me feeling like I did a big line of speed as opposed to a psychedelic, which is kind of bizarre, but can feel amazing.
 
Ether? I've always wanted to walk like Raoul Duke.

lol

I am still set on getting some of this next week & i just read a report of a guy who did 90mg in 1 dose, he said it was "nice" but got sick after a bit. he doesnot say what kinda sickness it was.

anyone had any bad effects apart from JSpete's episode which to me is beyond being sick, thats some serious medical care needed IMO.

I know whats its like to have too much heroin & be sick off that, i came close to going over a few times & i been feeling ill off dxm before too but i think this is a diffrent league (mxe)
 
Immediately, but probably in the same way you are feeling it. I never used more than 3 times a week (once). But in the few days after a session I would feel like I was really looking forward to using again.
 
The whole point with his parents in the house is a bit laboured, I understand that moralistic point about respecting your parents roof and all that stuff, but we are talking about drugs here where if it wasn't parents, it'd be neighbours or roommates, and parents are analogous to authority figures like the police, and with drug use authority is often not obeyed to the letter. So we shouldn't be coming off on some moralistic high with this, all these get rules bent. I think maybe a bigger issue is with jsPete's age, I'm guessing still teenage and I wouldn't recommend experimenting so much at that age.. but also that's not for me to say... and by the sounds of it, this happened to be an honest mistake, not some foolish act of idiocy. Most normal people would think we're all being reckless/foolish by experimenting with RC's in the first place, so we should understand there is personal judgement to be made here, we all choose these paths and this one has a certain amount of risk, straight up, regardless of how careful you are.

its not about morals its about the grass factor- parents will take you to hospitals and professionals for your drug use much faster than a housemate would. simple logic, plus they worry more about your health than your friends do, i guarantee you. its not about respect its about understanding discretion. they can ignore all the signs but if your a screaming gurgling mess they cant delude themselves any longer and then its a big problem.

i just think that if you are at home with your mum take smaller doses. its not that hard to use less of a drug. i dont see why you need to hole every time. thats like the quivalent of getting drunk every time when many people chose to have only a couple of beers. do you see the distinction? cos there is definitely one there...
 
anyone had any bad effects apart from JSpete's episode which to me is beyond being sick, thats some serious medical care needed IMO.

Pretty sure I've done the hysterical screaming thing once or twice on this stuff but hard to say due to the complete memory loss involved and there being no witnesses. I definitely trashed my room during a blackout first time I tried it but I got through 250mg (have a hefty dissociative tolerance, mind) and was also in the middle of a ket binge and was also on 3-MeO-PCE that night. Have seen a few reports of people losing it - often in the form of screaming hysterically whilst "holed" - so it's not just Pete that's experienced it. Seems to be an odd effect of dosing a bit too high, perhaps. At least in some people. Have also dosed MXE in the 300-400mg IM range and not experienced any blackouts too. More often than I have experienced blackouts, in fact. Have no idea why this would be so as my tolerance has remained pretty much the same for quite some time now really. Is way lower than it was a few months back though.
 
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