The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

[polidelaiko]

I found MXE to be a very complete drug.
If it lasted longer I`d use it as a mood stabilizer in low doses.

 

[f1ct]

hm.. i reckon the one who is being "stupid" here is the cat's owner for leaving highly potent drugs laying around in the open, especially relatively untested ones like this. the guy even wrote that it already happened before with the same cat (but with a different substance).snip

The other substance being...
DUH DUH DUH

CATNIP.

Buffoon.

 

[oSpherical]

hm.. i reckon the one who is being "stupid" here is the cat's owner for leaving highly potent drugs laying around in the open, especially relatively untested ones like this. the guy even wrote that it already happened before with the same cat (but with a different substance), but he didn't learn from it. it's a shame that some people are using this stuff so carelessly, dosing daily and heavily, freaking out from huge doses in their parents home, leaving piles of powder near their pets, continuing use despite weird nerve-related issues, and that's just from the previous days' posts on this thread.. pretty grim stuff...

To be fair to myself I wasn't even aware that the cat was in the room, and I left the small lines of MXE right next to me on the desk in lines ready to insufflate as soon as I finished something quickly on my PC, something which I'm sure many drug users do - it's not like I left a large pile of powder lying around for hours - just 2 tiny lines I was about to do.

And the catnip thing was barely my fault, the cat ripped into a bag of finely grounded catnip which I had for her, I had no idea she'd hunt it down so diligently.

 

[lurching]

And the catnip thing was barely my fault, the cat ripped into a bag of finely grounded catnip which I had for her, I had no idea she'd hunt it down so diligently.

who would've thunk!

maybe i'm overly careful (i agree 40mg is hardly a huge pile, even from the perspective of a cat) ..but imagine the same thing happening with a strong stimulant like MDPV, or with a 2C-x. could get ugly.

cats

 

[Saucy]

maybe i'm overly careful (i agree 40mg is hardly a huge pile, even from the perspective of a cat) ..but imagine the same thing happening with a strong stimulant like MDPV, or with a 2C-x. could get ugly.

cats

I've seen a cat that ingested MDMA in another accidental situation (it was a TINY dose, mind you), and it seemed to enjoy itself.

Also cats

 

[lurching]

The other substance being...
DUH DUH DUH

CATNIP.

Buffoon.

no need to get hostile now

i hope you agree with me that letting a cat get near enough to MXE to inhale it is not a good thing. in fact it's pretty careless, and like i said i think it's a pity that there's much more examples of carelessness found in just the last pages of this thread. cos i may just be an egoistical buffoon that hopes this stuff won't get scheduled anytime soon..

 

[amanitadine]

you idiot, its people like you that fuck it up for the rest of us.

if ANYTHING had that effect on me i would never take it again, let alone keep going back for a 2nd dose. your a idiot & damm right you wont get any sorrow from people, as 99.9% of people are wiser than to poison themself.

its a R.C. for godsake, you take your time with it IMO.#

"ow this is a new drug yet it fucks me up, i know ill keep taking it" very wise, your the kinda person that films a salvia trip & posts it on youtube.

its your kind that got 2-CT7 banned cause your a cock!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This isn't really fair, and is a bit mis-informed as is. This is a dissociative, remember. What he is describing are pretty standard effects from dissociatives, especially once higher doses and too-frequent of use become an issue. These compounds can be incredibly psychologically addicting, and often the signs are there telling us to stop (diminished returns, blackouts, compulsive use, and the bane of every K head, amnesia) but we trudge forward, hoping to gaze upon those shores once more, or see what's around that last corner. I've seen some "of the greatest minds of my generation" get sucked in, and make some terrible decisions, over and over again. If JSPete was experiencing these effects from some compound other than an arylcyclohexylamine, than I would say your harsh response would be appropriate. But, these effects are par for the course once you get in over your head. Doing this with parents upstairs? Not too bright, sure. These noises he reports are also pretty common once you push the envelope. But I have a feeling he (and most other people who are diving in headfirst) wasn't aware of this. Arylcyclohexylamines have a strange cumulative effect in regards to what your body can do while you are out. For most people the strange blackout effects and subsequent zombie-fication don't really start to take on a life of their own until you are pretty experienced with the drug, and tolerance is becoming an issue. It amazes me, having had a good 15 years of experience these drugs, how relatively consistent this trajectory is with most users that opt to push the envelope. Read "The Scientist", "Ketamine: Dreams and Realities", or "Journeys into the Bright World". Its all there. I was fortunate enough to have a life and career based around psychedelic drugs for a good portion of my life, and know a lot of people who have fallen into the dissociative tar-pits. I also know alot of people who manage to avoid the pitfalls, and maintain a healthy relationship with em. Its a fine line...

Does all of this negate what is admittedly some less-than-wise use by JSPete and many other users? No. But it explains it, and puts it in a context that makes sense. We will see a lot more of this sort of thing I am sure. I have enjoyed JSPete's contributions to this thread, and I am sure he is more than a bit embarassed (among other things) by these events, and I am not sure that your approach is gonna be too productive, let alone kind or compassionate. More people just need to be aware of what it is exactly that they are playing with. Most users agree there is nothing more psychologically addictive (especially to the psychedelic users with an addictive personality) than a good dissociative habit. The rewards can be tremendous, but just please be aware: You are playing with FIRE

Please be careful everyone.

Cheers

 

[GreenShade]

Wise words amanitadine...

I imagine i am walking down the street. I see a chubby man crying...

I say "Hey man! Don't be ashamed to cry. Let it all out. Its good for the soul"

The man regains his composure and thanks me for my time. The world seems like such a beautiful place as it crumbles around us.

Ive been following this thread for ever. Keep meaning to jump in.

And now I have.

 

[Albion]

you idiot, its people like you that fuck it up for the rest of us.

if ANYTHING had that effect on me i would never take it again, let alone keep going back for a 2nd dose. your a idiot & damm right you wont get any sorrow from people, as 99.9% of people are wiser than to poison themself.

its a R.C. for godsake, you take your time with it IMO.#

"ow this is a new drug yet it fucks me up, i know ill keep taking it" very wise, your the kinda person that films a salvia trip & posts it on youtube.

its your kind that got 2-CT7 banned cause your a cock!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your anonymity doesn't give you the right to send abusive posts toward me.

As far as I am aware, MXE hasn't fucked me up. Whilst under the influence people will behave unusually, but I never noticed any adverse reactions from using it daily. Memory loss from extreme experiences is a given. The strange shouting was a reaction to the intensity of the experience, and I'd have you know I felt pretty damn good, despite outward appearance.

Perhaps I have contributed toward the banning of MXE, but I can assure you I'm not 'the kind that got 2-CT7 banned'. It was the unfortunate fact that my parents heard me that caused all this kerfuffle. My dose wasn't idiotic or heroic, and I took the drug in the confines of my bedroom.

If you want to play the blame game, go pick on the guy who snorted 1000mg of MXE.

Edit: Thankyou amanitadine, just read your post. You have provided a fascinating insight, and I'm glad what happened can now be put in context with the disassociative abuse time-line. I sure am embarrassed, and gutted that I can't take anymore MXE (substantial cravings atm), but I am willing to remain contributing to this thread, which is essentially the trailblazer for all the info we know about this substance. People are going to see my report and hopefully take a step back and analyse their own habits.

 

[Transform]

I think he was trolling. Only someone doing so deliberately would post something so inflammatory, ignorant and abrasive. As for the person criticising the cat owner, it was clearly an accident, which the owner has learnt from. Care must be exercised but pobody's nerfect so mistakes happen.

 

[Albion]

i think he was trolling. Only someone doing so deliberately would post something so inflammatory, ignorant and abrasive. As for the person criticising the cat owner, it was clearly an accident, which the owner has learnt from. Care must be exercised but pobody's nerfect so mistakes happen.

love it


By the way, I'm going to receive counselling to combat my inclination toward drug use. Not my decision, my parent's decision.

They don't just want me rehabilitated from MXE dependency, but want to make sure I never take any drug recreationally ever again, by getting a counsellor who'll perform some professional trickery. I doubt they can make me not want drugs. As it stands, I'd still happily take them, but perhaps not at home any more.

 

[Transform]

I have mixed feelings about that, but personally I think if it's not something you want, I'm disgusted.
Fortunately, if you're not willing I don't think hypnosis will work, and if you're intelligent enough to be using bluelight to research your penchant, you should be able to see past any prohibitionist brainwashing.

If they were trying to get you to moderate your use or use safely, I would wholeheartedly approve, but I don't think it's necessary to stop use completely unless you can't make that compromise. Can you? Honestly ask yourself that, don't answer it here.

 

[nearjat]

I can see why you'd be disgusted if you haven't been there before. Idk man just gotta try hard to empathize with the parents.

 

[jm2020]

Has people been trying this with energy drink / caffeine? i'm getting slighty fastened heartbeat while on this, tried allergy test, which was fine. About 6hrs later i took 10mg sublingual which resulted in slight experiance comparable to alcohol use.

2hrs after i tried 20mg sublingual, felt pretty good an hour after, getting euphoria, slight dissication, music started to sound amazing, did some dance moves just to find out they musta been looked pretty stupid(glad i live alone), at this point, i had an energy drink and ate a meal.

Then after 3hrs of eating and drinking, i decided to rack up around 20~25mg sublingual, and an hour after, i felt like i was having a panic attack. Heart was beating pretty fast, too bad i don't have a machine to test out my BPM, i can't feel my hands, mouth and lips are pretty numb, and i've been wandering around the flat for a while.

Im typically pretty sensitive to drugs, i tend to overreact too much, even with weed i'd find myself in situations where i'd get a panic attack and had to leave to bathroom to breathe and calm down. Could energy drinks affect this? I'm kinda liking the substance so far, but i guess i just need more experiance in low doses to set myself comfortable, before trying to go "to the hole". Also im new to dissoactives, (other than plat2 dxm 1try) but i have tried small dose of pcp and other psychedelics, so i guess i'm just not that used to dissoactives..

Now writing this for about 30mins has made me calm down, i guess its just that i need something to focus on while under the influence, otherwise i'll be psyching myself. But i guess its a good thing to be on toes while under new RC, i'll be testing this out again tomorrow, but without the caffeine, and try to force myself to relax.

E: Racked up 10mg under the tongue to have some fun time watching this movie, after this im gonna hit the bed, but i'll be definetly testing out this in low doses, until i find myself comfortable in them, and then test out higher dose step by step.. I'm just hoping it doesn't build up too much of tolerance until i reach higher doses..

 

[lbeing789]

you idiot, its people like you that fuck it up for the rest of us.

if ANYTHING had that effect on me i would never take it again, let alone keep going back for a 2nd dose. your a idiot & damm right you wont get any sorrow from people, as 99.9% of people are wiser than to poison themself.

its a R.C. for godsake, you take your time with it IMO.#

"ow this is a new drug yet it fucks me up, i know ill keep taking it" very wise, your the kinda person that films a salvia trip & posts it on youtube.

its your kind that got 2-CT7 banned cause your a cock!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I 2nd amanitadine. Not a fair response.

 

[lbeing789]

MXE helped me quit marijuana, showed me how shit it was and how much it was holding me back. Unfortunately it's also become a habit in of itself and that's why jsPete's and amanitadine's posts are very helpful.. The habit is not like other drugs, but pretty much like amanitadine explained, diminishing returns, trying to recall lost magic, but I'm still getting amazing introspection with larger doses... I've been doing it 3 times a week, it's showed me so much, but I'm trying to leave it for a while now. I did it on Saturday, I don't intend to do it for a few weeks, because it's definitely becoming a problem. The tricky thing with this addiction is that it doesn't seem to have negative effects, and in fact in life I seem to be doing everything right, but like jsPete, despite all things being fine/better than fine, I expect to get screwed eventually and it's good to get some incentives to stop, because incentives are not necessarily there.

 

[Splitz]

Watching clockwork orange, very fucked. Beethoven in the background while reading this thread is making the posts very dramatic.

Quite how im managing to post on my phone i dont know. But id like to extend my love to all fellow mxe fans. Keep safe
Apologies in advance for wierd, wierd things

 

[RCmaster]

I've been reading around a lot about this substance and I plan to try it in the coming months.

 

[Transform]

I can see why you'd be disgusted if you haven't been there before. Idk man just gotta try hard to empathize with the parents.

I suppose I don't really know enough to make a proper judgement, it depends on age and if there have been other problems, but if this is the first and the parents are simply making a knee-jerk reaction, then I disapprove.

 

[psood0nym]

How much and over what duration did those who feel an addictive pull to the substance use methoxetamine before becoming aware of the pull? I'll admit I've used methoxetamine probably every other day since I've got it, averaging maybe 1.5 redoses per session, but that's my typical pattern upon getting any new drug that can be used easily in such a way (meaning any drug for the which pleasurable qualities are not largely contingent on mind set and personal commitment, unlike most 5HT psychedelics, and which do not have unacceptable symptoms cropping up after repeated use, like something like serotonin releasers do).

I've used ketamine, GHB, amphetamine, and opiates this way in the past. At the moment, my understanding is that I'm using it repeatedly because it's easy to use it, not because it's difficult not to use it. It's probably also relevant that I've never been addicted to anything.

It would be valuable for new users to have an indication of when experienced people think the honeymoon should end. Personally, it's been two weeks and I still have about 150 mg left of my gram, so about 60 mg per day. Calculating daily rates of use might be a good exercise for a lot of you, actually.