The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

[abore]

Meth ox et uh mean.

 

[Albion]

Met-hoxet-ami-ne

It's Latin.

 

[Disco Doctor]

Met-hoxet-ami-ne

It's Latin.

I read that like it was being sung by monks. Wobbly monks.

 

[ThatGuyWeAllKnow]

^ Yeah, your life must be shit if you act like that every time you don't bring a girl home from a concert unless you don't go to many or got some pretty mad skills. (Also assuming that you are not one of the performers of said event )

yes my life is pretty shit. i have 0 good friends. i barely ever leave the house. that night i had danced with multiple girls but just that last one i felt like we really had a connection, if i didnt i would have just moved on to the next one and just enjoyed the night. perhaps its just me being delerious or maybe it was drug induced delerium that i though we really had a strong bond. but if she had ditched me half way through the concert i feel like that would have been better and still would have left me time to enjoy myself and find someone else but she waited till the concert was completely over to let me know that shes not into it. so it was over and i had no girls or even friends to hang out with, just %100 alone and it felt really depressing, knowing that everybody else is still having the time of their lifes with theyre friends/girls.

 

[Splitz]

Then you need to make some new friends! It's a sad story but just a tad off-topic, maybe <_<

 

[nearjat]

yes my life is pretty shit. i have 0 good friends. i barely ever leave the house. that night i had danced with multiple girls but just that last one i felt like we really had a connection, if i didnt i would have just moved on to the next one and just enjoyed the night. perhaps its just me being delerious or maybe it was drug induced delerium that i though we really had a strong bond. but if she had ditched me half way through the concert i feel like that would have been better and still would have left me time to enjoy myself and find someone else but she waited till the concert was completely over to let me know that shes not into it. so it was over and i had no girls or even friends to hang out with, just %100 alone and it felt really depressing, knowing that everybody else is still having the time of their lifes with theyre friends/girls.

Hey man, this isn't really the place for this kinda discussion but there's other forums (even the social) where you can talk this kinda thing out.

I'd recommend trying to be sober for a bit and let your personality come out more man maybe you'll get some new people in your life.

 

[Transform]

Meth ox et uh mean.

That's how I'd pronounce it, as a british chemist.

The substance seems to have a mild anti-addictive mechanism. High doses reduce the desire to dose again in the future.

I find the exact opposite, for a few days afterwards I feel the desire to use it again but after about a week I'm back to normal. Unless I have a really powerful experience in which case I happily break for a few days, but this is the same with everything.

 

[stonerish]

That's how I'd pronounce it, as a british chemist.



I find the exact opposite, for a few days afterwards I feel the desire to use it again but after about a week I'm back to normal. Unless I have a really powerful experience in which case I happily break for a few days, but this is the same with everything.

Agreed on the pronounce...

As for the addiction potential...I feel as if it is very high...Ive been dosing every weekend friday through sunday, multiple doses a day for the last while here and have gotten to the point where I would very much like to take MXE always...Its great and escapist and distracting and mellow...Its just a very addictive substance for me particularly...

Relatedly, Im looking into getting some morphines to mix with this stuff, so addiction potential is about to skyrocket...anyone had any experience with the combo (opiates and mxe)?

 

[knock]

Met-hoxet-ami-ne

It's Latin.

Very good!

 

[oSpherical]

I'm starting to get more than a little worried about potential damage caused by abusing this drug - a stage which I have no doubt fallen into, taking 150mg 4 nights per week.

Is there any evidence which may point to this chemical being neurotoxic or physically addictive?

I'm not asking this due to noticing toxic effects or whatnot - quite the contrary, despite the somewhat constant abuse, the only negative effects I feel after coming down from the trip is a slight headache and somewhat blurred vision, yet feel completely normal the next day, or in many cases, better.

It's gotten to the point that during the peak of my trips the number one thought swimming around me head is "Man, why am I wasting time having an introverted trip within my own head when I could be learning real life skills and being a productive part of society while sober".

This stuff is starting to make me feel repulsed over any sort of drug usage now, and the guilt I feel on it while tripping is overwhelming, to say the least.

Now I may sound harsh about it, but I do love this stuff, it's fun, it's enlightening, it gives me motivation, but the more I do it the more it feels like life is becoming a blur, and a night on this stuff feels like a week of wasted time.

never has a drug made me feel like time is so limited to achieve what I want to achieve, as though every minute wasted is wasted potential. It's like it leaves me in a box where time is distorted, where I can't move forward, and its telling me that I'm just wasting time in this box, whereas without it I could be moving forward, learning things...

It also makes me reminisce over my cognitive abilities from years gone by, comparing my cognitive process back when I was younger, around 16 to my current cognitive process, comparing how much has changed, what sort of conclusions I would have come to, etc. MXE definitely has left me comparing my current self to my old self quite a lot, wondering if MXE has changed my cognitive functions over the long-term in any way...

Sorry if this all sounds like gibberish, I'm typing this after having a 200mg insufflated dose an hour ago. What I'm trying to say is that this drug has a way of making me feel guilty for using it, despite being so alluring,

 

[Splitz]

I thinj perhaps a couple of people have said smoking cigarettes on this to be a bit strange. I am a heavy smoker, and I tend to smoke more on drugs. Any more input?

I smoke rollies though, and on acid it took me half an hour to roll because I kept forgetting what the little peice of paper in my hand was and what I was supposed to do with it. If mxe is as confusing and impairing as some make out how well am I likely to get on? Sorry if my post is lacking in the grammar department, im using my phone. Pain int arse.

 

[nearjat]

oSpherical - that might be a result of an already established mindset about drug use? Maybe you were kinda getting the feeling your drug use will bring you nowhere but the MXE brought it to the surface. I know lately I'm staying away from benzos and opiates because every time I trip all I can think about is how bad of a person I am for lying to myself about quitting them all the time. I'm not saying I'm abstaining just to make my trips better, lol- but when I get obsessive thoughts like that tripping I usually take it as a warning sign.

 

[stonerish]

I thinj perhaps a couple of people have said smoking cigarettes on this to be a bit strange. I am a heavy smoker, and I tend to smoke more on drugs. Any more input?

I smoke rollies though, and on acid it took me half an hour to roll because I kept forgetting what the little peice of paper in my hand was and what I was supposed to do with it. If mxe is as confusing and impairing as some make out how well am I likely to get on? Sorry if my post is lacking in the grammar department, im using my phone. Pain int arse.

Cigs are weird...

As much as amphetamine makes me want to smoke...mxe makes me not want to...

Weed on the other hand, while infinitely stranger, is not effected...

 

[Albion]

Cigarettes don't add anything to the experience. Since you're disassociated, the cigarette registers even less than normal on your state of mind.

Combining opiates with this could be goooood. Too goooood if I'm honest...


Once you throw opiates into the mix, you'll most likely be dissatisfied with MXE unless it's taken with an opiate. You'd then have to compete with tolerance, withdrawal, overdose (and ability to cope with overdose). Sounds like a very bad idea on paper.

 

[jm2020]

Hello fellas, been a long time lurker since last thread started, and now finally got myself to order 500mg sample from trusted vendors, hopefully it will arrive next week, and i'll post opinions and experiances of it then.

However i do have one question, i quitted SSRi's 3 days ago (which shouldn't affect anything anymore one week later,) Altough, i have been using Singulair (Montelukast) for my so called asthma. I recently started getting interested in DMX aswell (lol) just to have a bit feeling what dissoactives seem like, but i stumbled upon thread which say that Montelukast and DMX may create Serotinin Syndrome, (altough some people say it actually boosts it).

Now the question is, will singulair montelukast have any affect on MXE? Some people even said they tried it with SSRI which is alot stronger serotinin drug, so i doubt singulair would have any affect with MXE? Just clearing my mind up so i dont get paranoid while tripping that "IM GONNA DIE I GOT SEROTININ SYNDROME OMG I NEED TO CALL AMBULANCE" kinds of things.

Pardon me for my poor english skills and weird sentences, its 6am here and been drinking abit xD

Greetings from finland, keep the discussion going guys! %)%)

 

[greenmeanies]

from what I can tell (wiki), montelukast is designed to be highly selective with minimal side-effects. but then they say that it could be associated with "agitation, aggression, anxiousness, dream abnormalities and hallucinations, depression, irritability, restlessness and tremor"... so it might interact with dopamine or serotonin or what have you.

As far as the SSRI goes, which one were you on? Did you taper down or quit immediately?

 

[jm2020]

from what I can tell (wiki), montelukast is designed to be highly selective with minimal side-effects. but then they say that it could be associated with "agitation, aggression, anxiousness, dream abnormalities and hallucinations, depression, irritability, restlessness and tremor"... so it might interact with dopamine or serotonin or what have you.

As far as the SSRI goes, which one were you on? Did you taper down or quit immediately?

i was on cipralex ( Escitalopram ) 10mg for about 2 weeks, decided to cut it off since it wasn't really working and its not like i have really bad depression, i'd rather get off it by normal means. And i quit immideatly, i doubt that the medicine stays long in my body after such low doses and short time of use. Wikipedia says Half life is ~30hrs so im pretty sure im fine with that case.

Mostly im concerned about Montelukast, since i think it could help my fluid-y nose and constant cough.

 

[greenmeanies]

well then it seems the best advice is to start low and be careful... first ensure you have a medicine that contains only DXM as the active ingredient, and start with the recommended dosage before you go chugging bottles of cough syrup :

 

[jm2020]

Yeah when i get my hands on MXE next week, im planning on startin allergy test, then hour later 10mg, then take it up from there slowly until i know how it affects on me, i have time to try those M hole trips and 50+mg doses when im sure they dont affect each other.

As for dxm im gonna have to read abit more about it.

 

[Frogster]

yes indeed theres absolutly NOTHING wrong with mxe but in my case it was my bad choices in handeling and set and setting that i think will keep me from ever enjoying dissociatives again, i guess thats the price i have to pay for being stupid with them. just feeling the effects will remind mt for how i fucked up a once in a life time chance to have the time of my life in a amazing show that will never repeat itself and how after investing SO much time and SOOO much energy on only 1 girl, she gave me plenty of chances to say/do the right thing, she gave me the most passionate hug i have ever gotten and we were grinding and even kissed alittle bit but even through with her giving me so many chances to get it right my stupid my high ass aparently fucked up on most of them and she booked as soon as the show ended. i even asked her at some point if she wanted to go to the after party with me when it ended she indicated she had to go make a phone call and disappered...never to be seen again. i didnt even enjoy half the show becuase i was already extremely exhausted but forced my self to keep dancing just to keep up with her, but later found all my sacrifice was for absolutly nothing. so is mxe a bad drug?no. but i think my history with it will always keep me from enjoying dissociatives, or even being extremely high on anything for that matter...untill now i felt like i was missing out by being sober but after that day i feel like im missing out by being too high---which i know is a good thing but i feel incredicly empty and pointless for fucking up my one in a life time bassnectar concert and being uncapable of making friends to hang with after the show. i wish i could go back in time.

get a grip man! why care about a girl that has not even a clue of how it is to be alive (me and my m8s call those subjects NPC'S) . You're by far 2leet for her... So now gtf on topic again!