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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

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ThanksLois said:
Heard that on K movement get's really difficult, MXE makes it funny everytime you surprise yourself with your dexterity in such a state.
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I'd say DXM is more hard to walk.

with me on Ketamine, it's not so much hard to walk as it is just weird.

My movements don't feel precise, but they're surprisingly accurate without much thought, and my limbs are so relaxed they're completely still and I can stand like a statue on one leg or something.

I feel like a ninja on ketamine, anyone else with me?
 
stonerish said:
Sounds sweet psood!

3 pot cookies, a cheeba chew, and 25mg plugged have me nowhere near anything as phantasmagoric as your experience...

And having read that, I'm left with a burning desire to reach such a state...oh how i wish I had my opiates :(
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Thanks ... always happy to help with a relapse, heh. It's too early to say how much of the experience was a function of dose because I just haven't use methoxetamine enough to know. Two out of the three times I've exceeded 50 mg IM something like this has happened, but it's not anything like what's described as a dissociative "hole". It's too short and peak-like. This latest experience is somewhat new to me, granted it also involved the addition of a small dose of MET. It's definitely a type of mania, but a unique one that's very concentrated, abrupt, and aware of itself. Certainly it was euphoric, phenomenally so, though I'm sorry to tell you I wouldn't expect something like it to quell a desire for opiates, at least not in my experience of them. It's much more psychologically and physically demanding. You don't sink in and float away in the euphoria so much as jet-boat through euphoria's version of class 4 rapids.
 
Have we come to any conclusions regarding tolerance? It's clear that tolerance builds up, and I'm assuming that it will dissipate after a period of non-use. Is tolerance possible to overcome via dose? I know for some seratonergenic psychedelics, you can't fully overcome the tolerance via dosing. There are some effects that dissipate and taking more doesn't really help bring them back. Is this the case with MXE?

I might do some trials with MXE to determine the effects of tolerance and dose. I am pretty new to dissociatives, so it might be difficult to judge the subjective effects properly. I will try to design a set of experiments that will allow us to gather some data on MXE tolerance. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd certainly be open to them.
 
first post on BL, just made my account yesterday but thought i'd post my first experience... read the entire first B&D and now i'm working on this. i deserve a medal or something, damn.

dosed 32mg sublingually, and 20mg sublingually an hour later. no dissociative experience except 4 dxm trips a few years ago (never again). this was an interesting experience and definitely wasn't what i was expecting. i'm a serotonin guy heh

anyway 4 hours after my 20mg redose, i was set on a 50mg redose, and a friend who was much more experienced with mxe told me to smoke a bowl with it, because it potentiates it and it'd be fun etc etc etc. so i throw 50mg under my tongue and 15 minutes later i go out for a bowl, .2g of some pretty dank shit. well, while i'm out there my life starts to feel like a videogame, and it's sweet. i come inside and go back to my little area i had set up and my life feels like a first-person RPG. cool shit. i'm having fun. fast-forward about 20 minutes... the body sensations from the weed are combining with the disconnection/numbness from the mxe and it feels really good. it's super intense.

but then it all got sour. the feelings kept growing and growing and soon it was like a strong mushroom trip, where your body feels so good that it doesn't feel good anymore. and it just kept going... and i felt like i was going to throw up for a while. at the time of the redose i was hungry, and i planned on eating some cookies i had after i smoked that bowl. but i got downstairs afterwards and i was NOT hungry. this experience was extremely intense... i would equate it to 2.5g of homegrown shrooms. i was absolutely lifted, maybe thats the wrong word for it. i was stuck to the couch with my head slumped down, headphones on, just trying to bear this feeling. the music made it so intense... i finally got the courage to change it. it was alright after that, a pretty smooth ride down.. but god damn, i'm not doing that for a LONG time.

dosed 43mg sublingually about 1h20m ago, thinking of redosing now. mxe is interesting...

just thought i would post and ask, has anyone had this experience? 50mg sublingual + a small bowl of dank bud? because i consider myself pretty psychedelically versed and this was an intense experience.
 
seagal26 said:
Have we come to any conclusions regarding tolerance? It's clear that tolerance builds up, and I'm assuming that it will dissipate after a period of non-use. Is tolerance possible to overcome via dose? I know for some seratonergenic psychedelics, you can't fully overcome the tolerance via dosing. There are some effects that dissipate and taking more doesn't really help bring them back. Is this the case with MXE?

I might do some trials with MXE to determine the effects of tolerance and dose. I am pretty new to dissociatives, so it might be difficult to judge the subjective effects properly. I will try to design a set of experiments that will allow us to gather some data on MXE tolerance. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd certainly be open to them.
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I find tolerance to build quickly....

25mg on the first night takes around 35 on the second night, and near 45 on the third...

But this is just me
 
Doses of 50mg is the perfect social lubricant for me currently - but do keep in mind I have tons of tolerance.

With 50mg now, it rids me of my inhibitions completely and gives me intense waves of euphoria, without the dissociative edge of higher doses for a few hours - and after that, my mind feels completely at ease with everything, like a blank slate without a single unnecessary thought. It feels like tranquility.

I'm full on obsessed with this drug, ever since discovering it I haven't had a drop of alcohol or any weed, it's just put me off all other drugs. I find that it fills every need I have in a drug...

Obviously this makes it extremely abusable, the drugs only downfall. The upside is that even after 2 weeks of constant use, 100mg can take me into a new world, and stopping for a few days has given me no problems at all, no withdrawal, no intense desire for the drug.

Best of all - usually I suffer a lot of anxiety on drugs, but with MXE I've always felt perfectly at ease and comfortable.

I honestly can't say enough good stuff about this chemical!
 
Hi guys, sorry about the mullered waffle last night, not really done much in the way of dissociatives apart from smally amounts of ket.


So I'm all new to the experience, one thing that i found odd and i can only describe it like being at onion, where if you tried to figure out what is "self" a skin came off and what was underneath was you but not you, this carried on fore a few minutes until i expect i entered some kinda of hole.

all this this feeling i had thoughts of what have i done am i dyingg did i do to much , but then i was comforted by some other things/being they were little people. I didn't see them but i felt their presence.


is this a common thing ?
 
MXE Question?....

first off i did look for "The big & dandy MXE thread" but it didnt seem to pop up, if this question is more fitting to drug basic board feel free to move it.

Now i am after some of this, i got my eye on some for next week. Now i am huge fan of K & have been messing with heroin for 10 years so when i read about this new RC i nearly wept with joy.

Now i know people say "ow x is like ketamine" i heard the same about dxm, as i said i love k & am not shy to bash the dose out, i been far out before on it (white tubes of light, moving through time & space at crazy speed etc etc)

Now when i did dxm i hated it so much, yet everyone was saying its like K, too me it was like a mental breakdown, i was very scared & freaked out.

My question is what does mxe feel like if you had to compare it too K or dxm, i know it sounds a bit odd & i've read trip reports & all that stuff before i posted this question but i would like a decent answer before i order.

thanks in advance
 
Wow, I'm struggling to get my head round this.

Hey deko, don't fret about it too much, I had some similar moments last night, it was my first time with MXE aswell.

Well, I'm well happy with this. I don't have the best self-control, I can do overdo things, but apart from one booster dose last night I felt no real need to leep dosing. The thought and temptation crossed my mind, more than once, but it was easy to control. This surprised but pleased me. I can't wait to do some more, may do today but again, against everything I know about myself, I don't feel an overbearing desire to.

I managed to roll fine aswell in the end. The change in spatial perception was one of the most noticable things about it, my house felt by turns cavernous and boxy, when rolling the rizlas were massive. I said I was gonna write a proper trip report but tbh I'm struggling to make sense of the largest part of it.

I'd hate to see this in the hands of kids who buy it online with their parent's pinched credit cards. I haven't had such a strong trip since last summer. At some points full-blown psychedelic. I feel I now know more about, and feel more comfortable with the dissociative experience, having previously only done mid-range DXM.

Georgeous stuff ;)

Ooooh yeh and also I think next time I'll try a much lower dose. I had to eyeball... yes, my wrist is here, feel free to slap it. But now I've got a reference point, and I want to explore the lower doses before actually pushing it up any higher than last night.
 
@splitz

I had the same thing re sizes of bits of my house in the bedroom where i was sat for most of i time i was little on a huge bed, but venturing to the toilet i was massive and everything else small.

I did realise what was on telly in the background was effecting me at one point, quite funny to end up inside eastenders in that kinda of head space.
 
if this is anything like ketamine I know what you mean by the strange proportions of size.

It gets even weirder if you turn the lights off and have just enough light to see.
 
incognition said:
It wasn't insane at all. The DMT had a pronounced healing effect, and i regained all my normal feelings turned off by MXE. And no more schizophrenia mimicking, as in almost believing in obvious delusions. But at the same time the MXE slowed down the visuals of the DMT and prohibited any negative feelings whatsoever.. I sometimes can find DMT a bit hectic, with things moving too fast. Now it turned into a slowly pulsating, bubbling and orgasmatronic world of 4-dimensional fluorescent hallucinations i was totally immersed in. I just had a plain lighter so i couldn't smoke as much as i wanted at the same time, i was incapacitated before i could take the two more tokes i wanted to.. So it was more of a medium intensity DMT-experience and not like a proper breakthrough. But yeah.. Completely amazing and definitely healing. Harm reduction at its best. :)


I'm sure 4-aco with MXE would be great. Especially with proper (read: high) dosing. I'm trying to get hold of 4-HO-MET now, i think it'd make a good foundation for DMT-smoking in this context.
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you're reminding me of my Ketamine+Nitrous+DMT trips, makes it completely anxiety-free even on breakthrough doses for me.
 
I've reached the end of the road for methoxetamine...


Yesterday I dosed 100mg at 8pm. Went to bed and went into the familiar methox-hole.

When I came to, I was in the back seat of a car getting driven to hospital. Apparently my parents had found me, screaming and wailing, tongue-rolling, foaming at the mouth, writhing in my bed. They had no idea what was happening and so had rushed me to hospital. I don't remember any of the screaming, all I remember is the drive to hospital. They admitted me and did routine tests. They hadn't heard of methoxetamine, but dealt with me like a ketamine patient.

I got discharged at 00:30, knowing full well I had just wasted A&E time and resources. I know I've made strange noises before on MXE, I can't control it when I do this, but I vaguely remember as I come down.

So my parents are clued up about my drug habits now. The doctor suggested I do some sort of rehabilitation programme since I've been using MXE almost daily for a few months now. I haven't flushed the rest away yet, but I can't go on using it for the love of my parents.

So yeah, goodbye MXE. You got me in the end.
 
Ime methoxetamine isn't as psychadellic (sp?) as k, for me I found it quite difficult to hole and on the few times I have it was more confusing than k and not as spritual. Large doses on the other hand feel to me a lot like k, but remeber it's a rc so large doses are not advisable! It's really hard to describe what a drug feels like and for me I prefer k, it's worth remebering that it is not k and in
the intrest of harm reduction start slow until you find your mxe feet as it were! I hope this helps a little and remeber that all this is just my experience/opinions

p.s don't get me wrong it's a really nice feeling, nice and comfortable body, but it's not k
 
That's a terrible thing to hear. Suppose you're shook up huh?

But to take a positive look at it, perhaps it's a blessing, daily use of any powerful substance can't be good, even if it seems to not be doign you any damage at the time. Flushing your stash will help to symbolise the end of your relationship with it.

My heart goes out to you <3

I'll take this as a warning and I hope others do too.
 
I think its very similar to K in many respects and find the warmth it provides amazing however I stick to this once a week as anymore sessions feel empty and lacking in depth and very clinical.

100MG plugged is the best hit for me with maybe a 50mg snifter after 2-3 hours!
 
deko said:
I had the same thing re sizes of bits of my house in the bedroom where i was sat for most of i time i was little on a huge bed, but venturing to the toilet i was massive and everything else small.

I did realise what was on telly in the background was effecting me at one point, quite funny to end up inside eastenders in that kinda of head space.
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Which is why this is a perfect movie drug! I like to listen to music during the most intense part at the beginning and then melt into a movie at the 2 hour mark. At some point i intend to sniff a nice 50mg line in the cinema toilets lol
 
JSPete said:
I've reached the end of the road for methoxetamine...


Yesterday I dosed 100mg at 8pm. Went to bed and went into the familiar methox-hole.

When I came to, I was in the back seat of a car getting driven to hospital. Apparently my parents had found me, screaming and wailing, tongue-rolling, foaming at the mouth, writhing in my bed. They had no idea what was happening and so had rushed me to hospital. I don't remember any of the screaming, all I remember is the drive to hospital. They admitted me and did routine tests. They hadn't heard of methoxetamine, but dealt with me like a ketamine patient.

I got discharged at 00:30, knowing full well I had just wasted A&E time and resources. I know I've made strange noises before on MXE, I can't control it when I do this, but I vaguely remember as I come down.

So my parents are clued up about my drug habits now. The doctor suggested I do some sort of rehabilitation programme since I've been using MXE almost daily for a few months now. I haven't flushed the rest away yet, but I can't go on using it for the love of my parents.

So yeah, goodbye MXE. You got me in the end.
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Thats sad to hear mate, but as said maybe its for the better, i was using this stuff for months daily and started doing more gbl to keep myself away from it, which seems to be whole other problem now :|
 
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