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WOW Those are massive doses.
The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1
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T+0 20mg of 4-ho-mipt
T+15 170mg M1
T+1:30 170mg M1
T+2:30 170mg M1
has offered very pleasant trip, I would say there is very nice synergy between those two at this ratio. Next time I would do first M1 at T+0, maybe T-15. I think I found my first synergy with RC's.
T+15 170mg M1
T+1:30 170mg M1
T+2:30 170mg M1
has offered very pleasant trip, I would say there is very nice synergy between those two at this ratio. Next time I would do first M1 at T+0, maybe T-15. I think I found my first synergy with RC's.
A friend and I did 15mgs each from something labeled as 4-HO-MiPT and it was a bit odd. Trip lasted for roughly 5 hours and the peak was a definite 3+. I got this odd feeling that the world was behaving according to some sort of odd algebraic function and I wasn't a point on the curve. As though I was establishing dissonance with my environment. Part of me thought it was 4-HO-DiPT as I had a sample of that as well and the two had a small chance of being switched but that wouldn't fit the length of the experience.
Then again, I did weigh out a 15mg dose for a friend from the same batch and watched as he got to "one of the most intense trips of his life" (he's tripped about 50+ times) and came back to sobriety in under 3 hours, which follows the 4-HO-DiPT effects curve. Anyone else see discrepancies like this in effect duration?
Some other people that took the sample had odd experiences as well. All doses taken were 15mgs and reports varied from the ones above to "feeling cracked out for about 8 hours" to having "an odd 2 hour plateau that was merely weird and then a light stimulation" and one person reporting near inactivity. All these reports are from highly experienced people, same dose, same sample. This drug is fucking weird.
Then again, I did weigh out a 15mg dose for a friend from the same batch and watched as he got to "one of the most intense trips of his life" (he's tripped about 50+ times) and came back to sobriety in under 3 hours, which follows the 4-HO-DiPT effects curve. Anyone else see discrepancies like this in effect duration?
Some other people that took the sample had odd experiences as well. All doses taken were 15mgs and reports varied from the ones above to "feeling cracked out for about 8 hours" to having "an odd 2 hour plateau that was merely weird and then a light stimulation" and one person reporting near inactivity. All these reports are from highly experienced people, same dose, same sample. This drug is fucking weird.
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Darwins_Folly
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I was wondering if it is possible to be particularly resistant to certain tryptamines. I recently obtained a quantity of 4-ho-mipt, and after several trials with it, I've yet to experience any results I'd expected from my research of this substance. All my trials have been at least 2 weeks apart, with no other substances taken at all. In 4 trial, ranging in dosage from 20-40mg, a weak +2 was all that was achieved. Very mild visuals, absolutely no change in consciousness. I don't think its a problem with the batch, as a friend ingested 20mg and had a great trip.
Anyone else ever experienced anomalous results like this with this substance?
Anyone else ever experienced anomalous results like this with this substance?
Not with 4-ho-mipt, but it I have with other 4-substituted tryptamines - specifically with 4-aco-dmt. I think it is common for some people to be very resistant to tryptamines in general, and almost immune to specific compounds within the category.
Hi,
I would like to try 4-ho-mipt but I don't know what to expect, although I read a lot of experience reports. I tried 4-ho-met and 4-aco-dipt a few times.
4-ho-met was very visual and intense for me with a weak body load but not too deep and lethargic - just sometimes feel "I want to change my whole life". It's not really relaxing rather "disquieting" and amazing. Music enhances its effect but not enjoyable for me.
4-aco-dipt (for me) is a very fast but restful dream-like substance with moderate visuals - breathing walls, interesting touch - "spatial" distortion. Music is very enjoyable.
Could you compare 4-ho-mipt to these stuffs?
Raing (fe: 5/3)
Intensity, Visuals, Lethargy / Spirituality / Thinking, "Swimming in the waves of music", Touch / Distortions
Thanks.
I would like to try 4-ho-mipt but I don't know what to expect, although I read a lot of experience reports. I tried 4-ho-met and 4-aco-dipt a few times.
4-ho-met was very visual and intense for me with a weak body load but not too deep and lethargic - just sometimes feel "I want to change my whole life". It's not really relaxing rather "disquieting" and amazing. Music enhances its effect but not enjoyable for me.
4-aco-dipt (for me) is a very fast but restful dream-like substance with moderate visuals - breathing walls, interesting touch - "spatial" distortion. Music is very enjoyable.
Could you compare 4-ho-mipt to these stuffs?
Raing (fe: 5/3)
Intensity, Visuals, Lethargy / Spirituality / Thinking, "Swimming in the waves of music", Touch / Distortions
Thanks.
Mr.Toad
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I had an amazing experience with 15mg (orally). A very gentle process from swallowing the dose to actually tripping. The colors were beautiful, vivid and technicolor-like. The visuals were soft geometric and blended in perfectly with the colors. At this dose the substance was very easy on the mind, and I had an awesome chill-out evening with music and just relaxing.
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4-HO-MiPT has been delightful for me and I much prefer it over psilocin itself. As for its toxicity I can't tell you an objectively sound answer because there are no toxicology reports on 4-HO-MiPT, but I myself have taken up to about 120 milligrams (accidentally!) of miprocin without suffering any notable physical side effects (other than lethargy and slight mopiness which only lasted until the end of the day)
I ingested 30mg of this stuff and I felt terribly because of the side effects(overheating...) then I took a few capsules of arginine-something and I started to sweat, be hungry and feel normal but "still" very visual.
It just works for me
interesting.
It just works for me
interesting.ToxicFerret
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Christ what was that 120 mg miprocin like?
HofmannBlotter
Bluelighter
Hey, how the texture of 4-HO-MIPT look like ? Mine is brownish and look wet :S What the fuck ?
any major dude
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how old is it? When tryptamines degrade they tend to get brown & gooey, but they don't seem to lose all that much potency. This article on Erowid should be useful.
Cyanoide
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I had my most extreme tryptamine trip to date last weekend. I had a batch from a vendor which I've bought RC's from tens of times and always got quality stuff. However, this time there was something strange.
I first took 18 mg in a gel cap. Nothing happened after 2 hours, besides a little body load. I decided to take another 14 mg orally, just swallowed the powder. Waited another 1,5 hours and the body load just increased a bit, but nothing else happened. I was a bit frustrated and decided to snort 20 mg. After this it hit me very fast - the "problem" was, it seemed all I had taken suddenly hit me (approx. 50 mg).
Needless to say, it was extreme. But I actually enjoyed it. I have never experienced such strong visuals in my life, I experienced total out of body experiences and lost my capacity to communicate. I communicated with angels, saw the music pouring out of the speakers, every object (including myself) disintegrated into unbelievably beautiful fractals and trails. The OEV's consisted of every imaginable thing, I saw angels and demons, it was absolutely breathtaking. Very spiritual and blissful.
But I have no idea how first 18 mg and then 14 mg orally (on an empty stomach) produced only very little effects after 3,5 hours, mostly a mild bodyload, and then 20 mg threw me into hyperspace. If the stuff would have been impure or degraded the last 20 mg shouldn't had produced much effects either. It should only have added a little like the first two doses. I'm really baffled about this. The stuff is new, I've stored it in a glass vial in the freezer and all my other tryptamines have worked great. So it's not a question of storage. The powder was white and fluffy. My friend took 15 mg orally and had almost no effects apart from a slight body load.
I first took 18 mg in a gel cap. Nothing happened after 2 hours, besides a little body load. I decided to take another 14 mg orally, just swallowed the powder. Waited another 1,5 hours and the body load just increased a bit, but nothing else happened. I was a bit frustrated and decided to snort 20 mg. After this it hit me very fast - the "problem" was, it seemed all I had taken suddenly hit me (approx. 50 mg).
Needless to say, it was extreme. But I actually enjoyed it. I have never experienced such strong visuals in my life, I experienced total out of body experiences and lost my capacity to communicate. I communicated with angels, saw the music pouring out of the speakers, every object (including myself) disintegrated into unbelievably beautiful fractals and trails. The OEV's consisted of every imaginable thing, I saw angels and demons, it was absolutely breathtaking. Very spiritual and blissful.
But I have no idea how first 18 mg and then 14 mg orally (on an empty stomach) produced only very little effects after 3,5 hours, mostly a mild bodyload, and then 20 mg threw me into hyperspace. If the stuff would have been impure or degraded the last 20 mg shouldn't had produced much effects either. It should only have added a little like the first two doses. I'm really baffled about this. The stuff is new, I've stored it in a glass vial in the freezer and all my other tryptamines have worked great. So it's not a question of storage. The powder was white and fluffy. My friend took 15 mg orally and had almost no effects apart from a slight body load.
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Can somebody please say anything about stability of 4-HO-MiPT (fumarate) when stored in a brown glass at room temperature? Will it be stable for some years? Has anyone experienced degration?
Also, can anyone please compare 4-HO-MiPT to 4-HO-MET which i had experiences with for three times at 14-16 mg and once at 8 mg (at a festival).
Actually, also I am planning to melt some chocolate and put my tryptamine (4-HO-MET or maybe 4-HO-MiPT) in there to produce tiny psychedelic chocolate cubes. Is this safe or will it destroy the tryptamine?
Also, can anyone please compare 4-HO-MiPT to 4-HO-MET which i had experiences with for three times at 14-16 mg and once at 8 mg (at a festival).
same question
Actually, also I am planning to melt some chocolate and put my tryptamine (4-HO-MET or maybe 4-HO-MiPT) in there to produce tiny psychedelic chocolate cubes. Is this safe or will it destroy the tryptamine?
Chocolate should melt around or under 40 degrees Celsius which doesn't seem like enough to destroy the drug if you ask me, but it is a matter of time. Short exposure to elevated temperature should be okay while prolonged periods can degrade it more quickly. So the idea doesn't sound bad but I am interested why you would want to do this. There wouldn't be any real potentiation. But as a carrier I guess why not.
I found that 4-HO-MiPT and 4-HO-MET bear some resemblance in that, like other 4-HO tryptamines, the body load was pleasant and light to me with both. Also they have a similar tryptamine energy or buzz, furthermore both of them are particularly visual compounds for me. A major difference I think is that 4-HO-MET is very easy and positive mentally, none of the mushroom seriousness or the weirdness. 4-HO-MiPT was not quite serious for me either, but it was very weird. Inconsistent and unpredictable, it felt adventurous to me to find out in what kind of state I was actually in, and what would come next. Themes of the trip could vary quickly although it was not like an emotional roller coaster - like mushrooms can be for me.
4-AcO-DiPT is harder to compare I think, other than that they are all tryptamines. I find both 4-HO-DiPT and 4-AcO-DiPT mentally uneventful but they do put me in a very nice mood. It was ideal for me to chill out in a park and draw. Even when I got visuals and effects that could have some impact, this impact was still absent. I got laidback, but not very interested. But 4-AcO-DiPT was indeed much more physical for me. Not extremely positive or extremely negative but certainly pronounced and I guess on the pleasant side. 4-AcO-MiPT was fairly physical for me, 4-AcO-DMT significantly less so than both. Couldn't say why.
I found that 4-HO-MiPT and 4-HO-MET bear some resemblance in that, like other 4-HO tryptamines, the body load was pleasant and light to me with both. Also they have a similar tryptamine energy or buzz, furthermore both of them are particularly visual compounds for me. A major difference I think is that 4-HO-MET is very easy and positive mentally, none of the mushroom seriousness or the weirdness. 4-HO-MiPT was not quite serious for me either, but it was very weird. Inconsistent and unpredictable, it felt adventurous to me to find out in what kind of state I was actually in, and what would come next. Themes of the trip could vary quickly although it was not like an emotional roller coaster - like mushrooms can be for me.
4-AcO-DiPT is harder to compare I think, other than that they are all tryptamines. I find both 4-HO-DiPT and 4-AcO-DiPT mentally uneventful but they do put me in a very nice mood. It was ideal for me to chill out in a park and draw. Even when I got visuals and effects that could have some impact, this impact was still absent. I got laidback, but not very interested. But 4-AcO-DiPT was indeed much more physical for me. Not extremely positive or extremely negative but certainly pronounced and I guess on the pleasant side. 4-AcO-MiPT was fairly physical for me, 4-AcO-DMT significantly less so than both. Couldn't say why.
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atara
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Finally got to try this one yesterday. I shot up to a +3 almost instantly (<10 minutes) after drinking 16 mg dissolved in isopropyl alcohol, which I think probably sped absorption -- yes, you read that right, rubbing alcohol, but not really that much, maybe a teaspoon. I had the unesterified phenol, which tihkal had called the stronger version.
The trip was fantastic, and surprisingly deep; I might post a report later.
The trip was fantastic, and surprisingly deep; I might post a report later.
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