The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation
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CaptainAmerica
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Lol, because needles are being used.
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oSpherical
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I sometimes feel like I get a heightened sense of hearing when on methoxetamine.
Yeah, I experienced that too, but find it very annoying since background sounds which I usually wouldn't even notice suddenly felt like it was right against my ear.
ThanksLois
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Tried the aMT+MXE combo last weekend, it's amazing!
I havn't had any previous aMT experience but after reading it's big and dandy and some TR's I decided to get started. Seeing as low doses of aMT often provided pleasant but somewhat boring experiences after a while I decided to start at 30mg. This is how it went:
T+0:00: 30mg aMT (oral)
T+3:00: 15mg MXE (sublingual)
T+4:30: 15mg aMT (oral)
T+7:45: 20mg MXE (insufflated)
Weed was smoked during the entire session
I won't be going into details at the moment but I enjoyed the experience throughout, the MXE made the experience even more euphoric and interesting at times. The body load was intensified and extremely pleasant. The best thing about this combination is listening to music. No matter what genre, some parts of the music seemed to take over your body for like 10-15 seconds and just dissolve into a wave a euphoria and buzzing.
This was a loong experience, after 14 hours we still felt a little out of it but there was no crash whatsoever. The next day we felt great, but I do recommend having 2 days free for this experience just to be sure.
I havn't had any previous aMT experience but after reading it's big and dandy and some TR's I decided to get started. Seeing as low doses of aMT often provided pleasant but somewhat boring experiences after a while I decided to start at 30mg. This is how it went:
T+0:00: 30mg aMT (oral)
T+3:00: 15mg MXE (sublingual)
T+4:30: 15mg aMT (oral)
T+7:45: 20mg MXE (insufflated)
Weed was smoked during the entire session
I won't be going into details at the moment but I enjoyed the experience throughout, the MXE made the experience even more euphoric and interesting at times. The body load was intensified and extremely pleasant. The best thing about this combination is listening to music. No matter what genre, some parts of the music seemed to take over your body for like 10-15 seconds and just dissolve into a wave a euphoria and buzzing.
This was a loong experience, after 14 hours we still felt a little out of it but there was no crash whatsoever. The next day we felt great, but I do recommend having 2 days free for this experience just to be sure.
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Yup like I say, MXE & aMT were made for each other. Both take each other to a whole new level, and I found the experience intensely spiritual at times. It's very hard to describe.
incognition
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Tryptamines seems to be what you are supposed to combine with. I'm saying the same about DMT. But i'm fairly sure the imagery is a 'bit' more impressive with that one.
I'm out of DMT and the other day after a decent dose of mox i got the great idea to smoke some jungle spice. You know the filth in mimosa you can grab with aromatic solvents when there's hardly anything left of the good stuff.
Well, bad idea. I ended up on the floor on my knees begging to god i would get my sanity back.
Quite the opposite from what i experience when combining with proper DMT.Tryptamines seems to be what you are supposed to combine with. I'm saying the same about DMT. But i'm fairly sure the imagery is a 'bit' more impressive with that one.
I'm out of DMT and the other day after a decent dose of mox i got the great idea to smoke some jungle spice. You know the filth in mimosa you can grab with aromatic solvents when there's hardly anything left of the good stuff.
Well, bad idea. I ended up on the floor on my knees begging to god i would get my sanity back.
no kidding... Did you only have one go on the jungle? I mean are you sure this is the effect because a lot of deemsters believe that jungle has just dmt in it... I don't think exhausted mimosa is jungle as they refer to it, normally it's a full spectrum mimosa extract, mostly DMT if anything else.... but that is interesting... I've done DMT and MXE and it was good, but I've been unwilling to do the full DMT dose because frankly I'm scared to do it normally, on MXE seems just wild to begin with.
yoyo50
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After my mate tried the AmT(100mg)+MxE(50mg) combo last weekend and wont stop going on about it im gonna try myself this weekend %)
incognition
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Well, not what they call jungle then. But dark red goo with very different effect. NOT the same drug. I had no visuals at all from it.
I approached it the same way as when i smoked DMT. Starting small to see how it felt. But this goo had a delayed effect and i was tricked into smoking more than i wanted.
When i've smoked proper spice on the mox i've felt healed, and far from insane - actually much more sane and stable than before the DMT, even at relatively high doses.. I've posted about it a page or two back.
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I'm a big poster on nexus and they debate the nature of jungle like crazy...this would lend credence to it being another drug, maybe its a beta carboline though... mao inhibition and MXE, is that what caused the insanity?
I've broken through on DMT and MXE but it wasn't that different from DMT straight up and the trip I had was not a jaw dropper... I promise I will do the jaw dropping dose in the future, just gotta gather the courage... I get very bad pre-flight anxiety with DMT, like a lot of people, even though it's always been amazing, the ultimate drug in my opinion... and MXE has becomes one of my favourites, so its great to hear they work so well together.
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seagal26
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I had a spiritual vision on MXE last night. It was the tail, tail end of my experience as I was lying down to go to sleep. I couldn't seem to close my eyes without having pretty active, yet faint, CEVs. I started to become a bit agitated, as I didn't really want to still be having an experience. My partner calmed me and suggested I relax.
A short time later, I had a strange vision that almost felt as though it was accompanied by sound, but I didn't actually hear anything -- the sound was all in my mind. There was a figure and some different lines or geometric shapes. All of a sudden, the lines/shapes started to align accompanied by the perception of sound, with the sound reaching a harmonious crescendo.
It was unlike any vision I'd experienced before. For me, the nature of what is or is not spiritual has changed over time, and I have mostly given up on the idea of using drugs as a spiritual tool. The vision had a profound impact on me, however. There was a definite spiritual flavor to it, it came out of nowhere, and it was incredibly distinct. I hesitate to label it, but I was a bit floored by my experience of it, and its simplicity.
Don't get me wrong, I've had what, at the time, I considered to be spiritual experiences. But I became disillusioned to the idea of drug use as a spiritual practice, at least for my own path. This was very different.
This definitely requires more exploration.
A short time later, I had a strange vision that almost felt as though it was accompanied by sound, but I didn't actually hear anything -- the sound was all in my mind. There was a figure and some different lines or geometric shapes. All of a sudden, the lines/shapes started to align accompanied by the perception of sound, with the sound reaching a harmonious crescendo.
It was unlike any vision I'd experienced before. For me, the nature of what is or is not spiritual has changed over time, and I have mostly given up on the idea of using drugs as a spiritual tool. The vision had a profound impact on me, however. There was a definite spiritual flavor to it, it came out of nowhere, and it was incredibly distinct. I hesitate to label it, but I was a bit floored by my experience of it, and its simplicity.
Don't get me wrong, I've had what, at the time, I considered to be spiritual experiences. But I became disillusioned to the idea of drug use as a spiritual practice, at least for my own path. This was very different.
This definitely requires more exploration.
yup, i still can smell odd things when im not high, like chocolate and stuff like that
incognition
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I have no idea if it could have been due to betacarbolines and MAO-inhibition. But i guess it's possible. It sure felt unhealthy as i can imagine a MAOI together with a DRI could feel..or in whatever funny way mox & friends play with the dopamine system.
I have a user on the nexus too, but i never got into hanging too much there. But on the old forum, before nexus...
Regarding pre flight anxiety i think the best way to cope with that is starting small and just build it up until you feel safe in and comfortable in the DMT-space and after that go for the big tokes, have you tried that?
I cant stand hitting it all at once anymore. My heart races and i start to sweat before i even have started the lighter.. I'm sure you meet more aliens starting from scratch, but it ain't worth it for me.
I have no idea if it could have been due to betacarbolines and MAO-inhibition. But i guess it's possible. It sure felt unhealthy as i can imagine a MAOI together with a DRI could feel..or in whatever funny way mox & friends play with the dopamine system.
I have a user on the nexus too, but i never got into hanging too much there. But on the old forum, before nexus...
Regarding pre flight anxiety i think the best way to cope with that is starting small and just build it up until you feel safe in and comfortable in the DMT-space and after that go for the big tokes, have you tried that?
I cant stand hitting it all at once anymore. My heart races and i start to sweat before i even have started the lighter.. I'm sure you meet more aliens starting from scratch, but it ain't worth it for me.
meet more aliens, haha, yeah, well that's it, I have done the small doses into huffs, thats what I was doing on the AMT+MXE+DMT night, with my volcano, but it's that hyper experience that I want/I'm afraid of, although I believe it's the best way to go, the low doses are really nothing to compare to the proper rocket launch all at once... that on MXE just seems like an outrageous concept, because it's hard to imagine it getting any more epic. I think the challenge is just to get started with DMT its definitely got an anti addictive quality, the more you do it the less you want it, and I've done it a lot.... can't bring myself to it, but I will. I will.
I actually posted some MXE stuff on nexus as well, it's a mad forum, some cool people, some crazy mofos, good info, but can get a bit snobbish at times, the spirit molecule is a serious one.
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I'm just a little bit curious how long it takes for tolerance to go down.. and if it ever does. Sometimes it seems a little bit like it has a permanent stack effect.. like I can never expect it to fully drop to what it was when I first played with it, even if I waited like a month. I don't really wanna quit playing with it for a month, but if I ever have to I guess I'll find out. I'm just thankful my tolerance isn't up to the level of Shambles! I just know when I see my girlfriend totally gone off like a third of my dose, it makes me a little bit sad just knowing how much money I could save if I decided to use some self-control!
As for all you crazy guys combining this stuff with psychedelics, you're pretty bold! I did it twice and even though it was completely awesome, I have trouble working myself up to do it. It's just so cool by itself, with almost no threat of a bad trip. Whereas when I add a psychedelic it's like adding a little bit of a dice roll, albeit one with great odds, but a dice-roll nonetheless.
As for all you crazy guys combining this stuff with psychedelics, you're pretty bold! I did it twice and even though it was completely awesome, I have trouble working myself up to do it. It's just so cool by itself, with almost no threat of a bad trip. Whereas when I add a psychedelic it's like adding a little bit of a dice roll, albeit one with great odds, but a dice-roll nonetheless.
ThanksLois
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Yeah that's basically always the case with combo's. Difference is the calm serenity of mxe (along with all it's other qualities) seems to be perfect to combo with. It's so mild at low doses that it doesn't overpower but simply improves the experience.
Btw, what is a good dose to hole with MXE sublingually? Have taken up to 40mg at once and that was fun but havnt pushed it that far yet.
Btw, what is a good dose to hole with MXE sublingually? Have taken up to 40mg at once and that was fun but havnt pushed it that far yet.
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