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RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread

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I've vaped 30mg twice in the last 2 hours and feel only a slight buzz. I'm not impressed so far.
 
DressedInBlack said:
How does plugging exactly work? Wrap the substance in cigarette paper and plug it?
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Nahhhhhh that's bombing. Plugging = Dissolving the substance in water and using a syringe/hosepipe/small watering can to deposit the dissolved substance in your large colon. It's unorthodox to say the least, but works a treat. Bio-availability is second only to the needle.
 
Also here is a thread all about plugging: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=304197

I've only ever plugged AMT, but this might be applicable here - I just put the powder in a gelcap, lubricate it (I use butter, some people think that's weird but I don't see the issue) and poke it up my rectum with my finger. Then I lick my finger (actually I wash it).

Works just fine for me, and if you use a coloured gelcap you get a coloured anal emission which can be entertaining.
 
JSPete;
For someone that doesn't have plugging equipment, would you say it really was worth investing in? or is the high from insufflation really not comparing for you?

Also it doesn't seem all that sociable, one of the plusses with the 'original' uppers is that you could do them in a social setting or club type scene without whipping out your ass, sorry, large colon. :)

Bombing would be my ROA though i've heard little feedback on that, can anyone help.
 
Muddy Benson said:
Also it doesn't seem all that sociable, one of the plusses with the 'original' uppers is that you could do them in a social setting or club type scene without whipping out your ass, sorry, large colon. :)
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You can easily plug with a gelcap in a club toilet. You might not want to go twos-up in the cubical though.
 
This sounds like it'd be worth a dabble.

Could anyone else comment on the "not being able to piss" effect? If that's a common theme and it's as bad as described, I probably won't bother. I hate hate hate that feeling.
 
Ain't no Meph

Through with my 500mg test supply now, I agree that this is a bit weak. Pleasant enough, but not ball-grabbingly interesting.

Weak, that is, in desired effects. As far as negative stuff goes, it has full amphetamine credentials. Unfortunately.

Dosage
I've tried vaping and plugging from 10mg, either method singly, up to 100mg in combination (50mg vaped, 50mg plugged). I haven't tried any other methods after reading negative comments here. Plugging works far better, as far as maximising positive and minimising negative effects is concerned. Anything above 70mg starts to feel very unpleasant, especially vaping.

Positive effects
Classic stimulant effects - increased heart rate, alertness, energetic. Euphoria is gentle and lasts 3-4 hours. Comeup is slow. Never really grabs you like 4-MMC.

Negative effects
Chest pain at higher doses (60mg+) CAREFUL. Mild gurning, loss of saliva production, chilled extremities, anxiety, rotten headache/depression on comedown, loss of appetite, difficulty urinating.

Tolerance/addictive potential
This is an interesting one. I found that tolerance was built up EXTREMELY quickly. After two 50mg doses, 6 hours apart, a third 50mg dose had no positive effects at all. Not a sausage. (With 4-MMC this effect came into play after the second or third day, not the second or third dose.) However, the negative effects kept increasing. So my urge to re-dose disappeared too. After my first experience with 4-MMC, I was ordering more on the internet immediately. With this one, I'm wondering whether I want to order any more at all. Not a bad thing, perhaps.

At least I now have an EXTREMELY clean kitchen. Unbelievably clean. My wife is still singing my praises.
 
Muddy Benson said:
JSPete;
For someone that doesn't have plugging equipment, would you say it really was worth investing in? or is the high from insufflation really not comparing for you?

Also it doesn't seem all that sociable, one of the plusses with the 'original' uppers is that you could do them in a social setting or club type scene without whipping out your ass, sorry, large colon. :)

Bombing would be my ROA though i've heard little feedback on that, can anyone help.
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I don't have plugging equipment either. But use your imagination. A beaker or straw or anything that doesn't look painful to insert will do. I would kill to have a proper syringe, but as it stands, I can plug successfully without one. Provided you get the stuff where you want it, plugging is a worthy RoA.

I haven't tried bombing MPA, but I doubt it's particularly effective.
 
angelsmoke said:
This sounds like it'd be worth a dabble.

Could anyone else comment on the "not being able to piss" effect? If that's a common theme and it's as bad as described, I probably won't bother. I hate hate hate that feeling.
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Yeah, it's a very pronounced effect I'm afraid. After about 50mg it is quite hard to piss. You get this from several norepeniphrine re-uptake inhibitors, some of them are actually prescribed for people with urge incontinence e.g. Duloxetine, pseudoephidrine. I actually quite like the feeling. Does this make me kinky?

You can ease the effect quite a lot by sitting down to piss. Puts your urethra at a better angle and releases pressure on it. Good for your prostate too, if you do it long term. Just don't try doing it at the urinals in the club. Might be misinterpreted. ;)
 
GlassCage said:
You can ease the effect quite a lot by sitting down to piss. Puts your urethra at a better angle and releases pressure on it. Good for your prostate too, if you do it long term. Just don't try doing it at the urinals in the club. Might be misinterpreted. ;)
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I think she'll be sitting down anyway :D
 
JSPete said:
I don't have plugging equipment either. But use your imagination. A beaker or straw or anything that doesn't look painful to insert will do. I would kill to have a proper syringe, but as it stands, I can plug successfully without one. Provided you get the stuff where you want it, plugging is a worthy RoA.

I haven't tried bombing MPA, but I doubt it's particularly effective.
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Just go to your local pharmacy and ask for a 5ml dosing syringe. Perfect size.

A message for all you out there who don't like the idea of plugging - once you're practiced, plugging is no more effort than any other ROA. In fact, I find it quicker, neater and less hassle than vaping or sticking a substance in gelcaps.

The psychological barrier is greater than the physical barrier, so to speak. :)
 
I didnt get a raised heartrate or anything else, doubt i could've slept though but ate a few ground pods raw (never done that before haha) and taken some phenobarbital which'l hopefully conk me out soonish, didnt get any kind of comedown either just a gradual effects wearing off feeling. also no problems urinating, did around 300mg total
 
does this stuff cause a harsh comedown? i want to try it but i dunno. comedowns make drugs not worth it most of the time.
 
^Nah, i found it a much easier comedown than speed or meph or other stims, the effects just gradually wear off. YMMV obv
 
I dno im still in two minds about this. And even if i were able to find a crack/vape pipe, god forbid anybody were to find it.
 
Cool, I guess i'm gonna have to give the plug thing a go, will report back tomorrow, (if my G arrives that is..) I'll try smoking and bombing as well, in the name of science. Of course ^^

Anybody give any details on Pupil dialation? As I possibly will have to be interacting with people that may frown on me flying, baring in mind I did get away with using speed in front of huge amounts of people fairly regularly. Or so i think ;)

No-one's singing this substances praises yet...
 
I was sniffing it, dunno what difference thatd make, but i found no overstimulation or pupil dialation or loads of sweating or any effects like that, nah just a bit of euphoria a nice little buzz and a gentle comedown
 
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