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Which "Rare" Psychedelics Do You Want To Try?

the only thing I really would like to do once (at least) is DMT but I never meet anyone with any acces and I never bothered trying to by the vine and seeds and stuff to brew Ayahuasca.

so, at least one goal in life. lol, joke.
 
Oh man, so many!
Many of these are only rare in my neck of the woods though, I guess:

AMT
2C-T-4
3-MeO-PCP
4-MeO-PCP
Methoxetamine
5-Methyl-MDA (hmm, typing this out make me think... has 5-Methyl-MDMA ever been synth'ed / researched? If so, that)

4-HO-5-MeO-DMT (Simply because the concept is awesome, biosynthesis via psilocybin mushroom cultivation with artificially introduced 5-MeO-DMT)


loads more but for now, I got some weed waiting to be smoked :D
 
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Oh man, so many!

5-Methyl-MDA (hmm, typing this out make me think... has 5-Methyl-MDMA ever been synth'ed / researched? If so, that)

4-HO-5-MeO-DMT (Simply because the concept is awesome, biosynthesis via psilocybin mushroom cultivation with artificially introduced 5-MeO-DMT)

Yes 5-Methyl-MDA has been synthed and tested on human. Im not sure about lab tests but a fellow BL has sampled. Reporting it being very very potent.

And what is this 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT? Does this really exist?
 
And what is this 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT? Does this really exist?

Yes – link

There is a documented synthesis, and Shulgin has touched on the biosynthesis of this and many other tryptamines possible to biosynthesize by introducing existing tryptamines into the growing process of psilocybin mushrooms.

Their paper cites a 10 step synthesis of 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT from ortho-vanillin. However, Alexander Shulgin has explained that it could be possible to cultivate 4-HO-5-MeO-DMT in psilocybin mushrooms by adding 5-MeO-DMT to the growing substrate of the fungus. Though this method has never been explored with 5-MeO-DMT, it has been used successfully for changing DET into 4-HO-DET and 4-PO-DET, both of which had never before been found in nature.[2]

In the case of DET the mushrooms yielded only 4-HO-DET or 4-PO-DET respectively, instead of psilocin (4-HO-DMT) and psilocybin (4-PO-DMT), suggesting that the presence of the extraneous N-dialkylated tryptamines competed for the enzymes in the fungus mycelium that would normally produce psilocin. This method thus not only produced new chemical compounds that had never previously been made synthetically, but also rendered the fungus itself completely legal in many countries because of its absence of psilocin or psilocybin, although in countries with stricter drug analogue laws such as the USA or Australia the novel tryptamines produced might also be considered illegal.

Theoretically, this method would 4-hydroxylate and 4-phosphoryloxylate any tryptamine added to the substrate, opening the possibility of synthesizing as yet undiscovered tryptamines.


Yes 5-Methyl-MDA has been synthed and tested on human.
I know about 5-Methyl-MDA, but I was asking about 5-Methyl-MDMA.
 
Yes – link

There is a documented synthesis, and Shulgin has touched on the biosynthesis of this and many other tryptamines possible to biosynthesize by introducing existing tryptamines into the growing process of psilocybin mushrooms.





I know about 5-Methyl-MDA, but I was asking about 5-Methyl-MDMA.

so fucking cool. thanks
 
^ The problem with 4-ho-5-meo-dmt is that we don't know if it's active, or just how active it is.

Any adventurous BLer want to try introducing 5-meo-dmt to a shroom substrate like that and see if it actually gets anywhere?
 
^ The problem with 4-ho-5-meo-dmt is that we don't know if it's active, or just how active it is.

Any adventurous BLer want to try introducing 5-meo-dmt to a shroom substrate like that and see if it actually gets anywhere?

Yea, you are correct, but I just think the whole concept of 4-hydroxylating and 4-phosphoryloxylating already existing tryptamines through shrooms is cool.

Plus, if you choose to use a tryptamine which happens to be legal in your country, it competes with and prevails over the production of psilocin and psilocybin, thus making your shrooms legal!
 
^ Which wouldn't really matter, as shrooms look illegal, shrooms of the psilocybin variety. If some LE were to take your 'legal shrooms', would they do the proper testing to make sure that the alkaloid content contains illegal/legal substances? Probably not.
 
^ Which wouldn't really matter, as shrooms look illegal, shrooms of the psilocybin variety. If some LE were to take your 'legal shrooms', would they do the proper testing to make sure that the alkaloid content contains illegal/legal substances? Probably not.

If it was involving me, yes, they would, because I would not want to go to jail / receive a felony for something I could 100% prevent. I would demand that they get them tested, because not all mushrooms are illegal, just ones containing illegal chemicals.

Same thing as when I got arrested for possession of a controlled substance for having an unmarked bag of MDPV in my shoe. They took me to the drunk tank for being publicly intoxicated and PENDING possession of a controlled substance, and I insisted that the powder was unscheduled and they have it tested. I was released the next day, and by the time I showed up in court they had test results and the charges were dropped completely.

It pays to know the law.
 
Mmmm not read much on AET - just about to order and try my first batch of AMT though :)

Rare but somehow legal...mmm...

DOx and DPT are high up there on my list - have no idea even where to start with trying to find these ones though... =/

Guess now's not the time.
 
odd that theres a lot of DOx listed in here. ive always thought those were about as common as 2c-x series, well DOI/DOC at least

aET sounded nice in the tihkal
 
It’s been awhile since I have posted on BL, my earlier remarks on this thread showed my psychonautic immaturity at the time. It turned out the more I learned the more I learned I didn’t know shit…that’s no surprise here on BL. With that being said I would like to submit my list.

5-MeO-DMT Got it just waiting
LSM
LSA- Pure
2C-B
Ayahuasca
Bufotenine
Ganesha and 2C-G
2C-T-2
DOI
MUCH MORE LSD-25...... N,N-DMT..........O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-DMT
and I am enjoying 4-AcO-DMT
 
TMA-2
MDA
MMDA
FLEA
DOM
DiPT
MET
DET
DPT (to be crossed off soon!)
ALD-52
ETH-LAD
PCP
 
^ Interesting and strange selection. :)

BTW, a while ago I posted this list:
allium said:
1) Mescaline or LSD - not sure which one I want more
2) 2C-B / 2C-T-7. Not quite rare, but illegal and hard to get for me. Of course, there are online vendors, so I will try these two compounds sooner or later.
3) DOC or DOM
4) Proscaline - shouldn't be very psychedelic, but I still would like to try it.
5) DiPT - don't look rare, and I am going to try it within next few months.
5 - tried few weeks ago
4 - chances are good that I'll be trying it soon

But my wishlist of rare psychedelics got extended with:
1) Isoproscaline - a fascinating phenethylamine, according to PiHKAL reports
2) TMA-2
3) 5-MeO-DPT - shouldn't be very interesting, but I love 5-MeO-tryptamines
4) 4-MeO-DMT - 4-MeO-MiPT was quite different(but interesting!) from its isomer - 5-MeO-MiPT, so I have good expectations towards this compound

And various others. :)
 
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