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A serious thread about online poker

StrutterGear said:
Naa, I like to play people who have a fucking hand range mate. I can outwit a good player because what he's doing is logical, and the cards he has can be worked out. Playing a 'any 2 card cunt' donkey who spunked his last 50 dollars on internet poker doesnt work for me.

and live games are not soft, I'm not talking about £10 buyin pub games, I'm talking brick and mortar casinos in London.
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Live games at a casino are WAY softer than online cash games. And the goal should always be to play with donkeys. Who cares if you can;t put them on a range? Who acres if you can't "outplay" them? You don't have to. They'll outplay themselves and hemorrhage money. Why would anyone ever want to play against STRONGER opponents? Don't you think these stronger opponents will also be more aware of YOUR range and what YOU are doing?
 
StrutterGear said:
Take this for example

I am short stacked, but have a £5 bounty chip. Tourny situation blinds are 500/1000

I shove UTG for 2 and a £5 bounty chip

Mid positions pushes OVER that, bloke behind him calls

I hold KK

Mid holds QJ suited

Last holds A8 off

Guess who won the race.
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This is a bad thing that people stuck in their chips with garbage?
 
StrutterGear said:
No need to be a dick mate. I play more hands, more games and in less time online, so of course I'm going to experience more suck outs.

Live games allow you to bring your personality to the table, which I use to my advantage. That KK situation was a live game anyway; in another thread I had complained about the lack of quality of poker games during the day at the Empire Theatre - where the WSOP Europe is held.
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I just find online cash games very boring. Live poker is more entertaining. W can chat, get drinks, laugh, etc. Online cash games make me want to strangle my Full Tilt Bear I have sitting on my desk.
 
StrutterGear said:
No need to be a dick mate. I play more hands, more games and in less time online, so of course I'm going to experience more suck outs.

Live games allow you to bring your personality to the table, which I use to my advantage. That KK situation was a live game anyway; in another thread I had complained about the lack of quality of poker games during the day at the Empire Theatre - where the WSOP Europe is held.
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I prefer live play as well, for the social aspect. Sorry for the heavy sarcasm earlier.
 
StrutterGear said:
Take this for example

I am short stacked, but have a £5 bounty chip. Tourny situation blinds are 500/1000

I shove UTG for 2 and a £5 bounty chip

Mid positions pushes OVER that, bloke behind him calls

I hold KK

Mid holds QJ suited

Last holds A8 off

Guess who won the race.
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You've got roughly a 57% chance of winning that hand. It shouldn't surprise you too much that you didn't. Very dumb call by A8, but that's life. I'd rather play with bad players; sure I lose in situations like that, but I win more often :)
 
The Reid bill fails!!!!

I have a job for at least another year. Sweet!

Just hit Supernova! Now to shoot for Supernova Elite in 2011!

This will also be the year I start infesting live cash (and maybe live tourny) games, too!
 
Infinite Jest said:
You've got roughly a 57% chance of winning that hand. It shouldn't surprise you too much that you didn't. Very dumb call by A8, but that's life. I'd rather play with bad players; sure I lose in situations like that, but I win more often :)
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Yea I know obviously you want to worse players etc... But my bankroll doesnt allow for these sort of things, in the frequency it happens. It annoys me more that there's nothing I did wrong in the hand, should of taken down the pot, and still take an early taxi.

I made up for it in a live cash game later that night anyway.


And I thrive on the pressure strong opponents give. Thats why I really wana play at the WSOP, Hellmuth on my table? Test yourself, etc.


and to another reply - of course it matters that you cant work a hand range. How are you gonna make that heart thumping call with mid pair if you give the guy credit for that ace even though he limped SB. :P
 
StrutterGear said:
Yea I know obviously you want to worse players etc... But my bankroll doesnt allow for these sort of things, in the frequency it happens. It annoys me more that there's nothing I did wrong in the hand, should of taken down the pot, and still take an early taxi.

I made up for it in a live cash game later that night anyway.


And I thrive on the pressure strong opponents give. Thats why I really wana play at the WSOP, Hellmuth on my table? Test yourself, etc.


and to another reply - of course it matters that you cant work a hand range. How are you gonna make that heart thumping call with mid pair if you give the guy credit for that ace even though he limped SB. :P
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This is a rather silly post.

First of all, what do you mean you "should of [sic] taken down the pot?" Why? Because you have a 57% probability of winning the hand? You do realize this means you will LOSE 43 times out of 100 right? Do you want them to reprogram the software so that you never lose when you are 57%? That would be nice but that's not poker. You aren't "supposed" to win any hand unless you have the nuts at the river, in which case you will win. Other than that, your goal is to put yourself in winning spots, and being in a 3 way pot with a 57% chance to win definitely accomplishes that task.

So, why would you waste any mental energy complaining about it and citing it as an example of why you can't win?

Regarding your comment about bankroll management - If your bankroll cannot sustain the variance of poker, then you aren't playing with the proper bankroll. That's a flaw in your approach. It's a poor reason to cite for your lack of success.

Also, again, regarding your comment about not being able to put bad players on a hand range - You ALWAYS have the option of playing against better players. Try it out and let me know how it goes. If you can't beat bad players I am surely quite confident you'll be able to beat good ones by "putting them on a range."
 
Because the A8 has no business being in the pot.

As I said, I took my game to a 1/1 cash game after that night and stormed the table.
 
And yes, my bankroll management is poor. It's not an excuse for a lack of success it's a limitation to me bouncing back, I can't afford wild swings and thus take breaks after a big downswing.
 
Hello bluelight regs. I grind 50nl and 100nl HU cash on pokerstars. Sometimes I also play 6-max, but usually things like this happen:

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $122.00
Hero (BTN): $224.90
SB: $127.45
BB: $81.90
UTG: $73.20
MP: $78.40

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50, CO posts ante $0.10, Hero posts ante $0.10, SB posts ante $0.10, BB posts ante $0.10, UTG posts ante $0.10, MP posts ante $0.10

Pre Flop: ($1.35) Hero has Qc Qd

fold, MP raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6.50, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $5.00

Flop: ($15.85, 2 players) 2h 3d 2c
CO bets $5.00, Hero raises to $15.50, CO calls $10.50

Turn: ($46.85, 2 players) 6c
CO checks, Hero bets $26.00, CO raises to $99.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $73.90

River: ($246.65, 2 players) Kh

CO shows Ks Ah (Two Pair, Kings and Twos) (PreFlop 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 14% )
Hero shows Qc Qd (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 74%, Turn 86% )
CO wins $243.65

8o
:X
:!
 
interesting way for him to play AK. A tough hand for sure, but you can't get worked up over losing a hand when you are an 86% favorite. If you are playing regularly, you should be losing lots of those every day.
 
Fjones said:
interesting way for him to play AK. A tough hand for sure, but you can't get worked up over losing a hand when you are an 86% favorite. If you are playing regularly, you should be losing lots of those every day.
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Not in 500bb pots I'm not! :p

To be fair, I wasn't that enraged until villain, who was a huge fish, gave all my money to an asshole reg who was sitting on my left and 3betting me every time I opened.
 
KamMoye said:
who's the dude who played HU? u wanna play?
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yeah HU4ROLLZ... :D

EDIT - anyone wanna play 10 or so games at the 50.00 HUSNGS then send me a PM, looking for a long session and fish usually quit after two.

Willing to pay the rake for you via tfer and maybe an hourly like 5.00 per hour... :-)
 
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