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Thanks for the help AG I think I am going to go to the unemployment office tomorrow and I see your from manchester I live in derry right. thats pretty damn close lol
 
I have been using craigslist to find odd jobs which has helped me make some money, Ialso made a posting on their saying i am looking for work I hope it help. Oh and my PO won't do anything to help get a job.
I think my friends girlfriend is going to help me get a job at her work as a busboy to i just got to go their today and talk to the manger. Wish me luck.
 
^ Revocation means your probation terms are taken away and you're given the rest of the sentence you would have faced had probation not been given to you. So, for example, say you were given 1 year probation for DUI that was revoked you'd serve the 30 days that the crime usually mandates. Granted, you probably wouldn't actually serve the full 30 days due to overcrowding, good behavior etc. but that's what it means to revoke.
 
Cyc... I think it's a good guess that somebody on probation or parole is expected to work and hold down a job or else be going to school or volunteering. The point is that they cant be hanging around on the streets with no way of supporting themselves financially. All that's required is to prove to your PO that you are employed. You can provide check stubs or whatever. But the PO doesn't need to "oversee" an employment relationship. He just needs to know there is one.
 
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Cyc said:
I simply can't see on what level a PO could oversee a private employer/employee relationship.
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It's simple.

The PO calls the employer and asks "Does so-and-so work for you?"

If the employer says "yes", then so-and-so stays on probation/parole. If the employer says "no", then so-and-so's ass goes back to jail.
 
College graduate with 2 misdemeanors

I do not usually join forums nor post in them, but on this issue I felt like it was necessary.

First, I got a shoplifting charge in 04 and a battery/disorderly conduct charge in 06. Both misdemeanors.

I graduated high school in 2004 with a GPA of 3.7 and I graduated from Georgia State University in 2008 with a background in psychology and a GPA of 3.4.

Sounds like I should be okay right? As of now, December of 2010, not so much. I would not consider myself successful at all. I just interviewed with a company called Cooks Pest Control for a 'Management Trainee' position which would be a salary position plus commission. They called me back for two interviews and I highly impressed them; the recruiter went on to tell me that if I was invited to the third and final interview, then we would be discussing salary negotiations. Well, I was invited to a third interview hoping to discuss my future career only to be invited to a debriefing and admittance of my past charges/arrests. All in all, I did not get the job and the background check was the only hindrance in the hiring process.

At this point, the only jobs I can get are ones that do not do background checks. Shoplifting is a big red flag for employers to look past and it has haunted me in obtaining a career ever since I graduated.

What I would suggest for people like me who have plenty potential but made mistakes that follow them?

-start your own business.
-work at a restaurant (servers and service jobs such as dishwashers) do not do background checks
-join a branch of the military
-find family owned businesses and work for them

If you have any other suggestions for what opportunities are out there for people with arrests such as me, feel free to expand.

Overall, what I am trying to get across is, that even people who have made mistakes punished by arrests and have learned/changed from it are continually punished by their backgrounds which prohibit them from obtaining a lot of careers. I consider myself highly intelligent, but I made some impulsive decisions in my past. I believe the system continues to demoralize people by labeling them with a criminal record where people start to have a sense of learned helplessness.
 
User Name Here said:
I don't wanna sound like a preacher here; I am mostly curious as to why people continually break laws. I totally understand people being raised in unfortunate situations having a much harder time avoiding crime, especially when it's all a person has ever known. Other than that I do not understand any of this.
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I break laws because I like doing drugs. I have a Class B misdemeanor charge, finding employment isn't too hard.
 
Leo12345 said:
I do not usually join forums nor post in them, but on this issue I felt like it was necessary.

First, I got a shoplifting charge in 04 and a battery/disorderly conduct charge in 06. Both misdemeanors.

I graduated high school in 2004 with a GPA of 3.7 and I graduated from Georgia State University in 2008 with a background in psychology and a GPA of 3.4.

Sounds like I should be okay right? As of now, December of 2010, not so much. I would not consider myself successful at all. I just interviewed with a company called Cooks Pest Control for a 'Management Trainee' position which would be a salary position plus commission. They called me back for two interviews and I highly impressed them; the recruiter went on to tell me that if I was invited to the third and final interview, then we would be discussing salary negotiations. Well, I was invited to a third interview hoping to discuss my future career only to be invited to a debriefing and admittance of my past charges/arrests. All in all, I did not get the job and the background check was the only hindrance in the hiring process.

At this point, the only jobs I can get are ones that do not do background checks. Shoplifting is a big red flag for employers to look past and it has haunted me in obtaining a career ever since I graduated.

What I would suggest for people like me who have plenty potential but made mistakes that follow them?

-start your own business.
-work at a restaurant (servers and service jobs such as dishwashers) do not do background checks
-join a branch of the military
-find family owned businesses and work for them

If you have any other suggestions for what opportunities are out there for people with arrests such as me, feel free to expand.

Overall, what I am trying to get across is, that even people who have made mistakes punished by arrests and have learned/changed from it are continually punished by their backgrounds which prohibit them from obtaining a lot of careers. I consider myself highly intelligent, but I made some impulsive decisions in my past. I believe the system continues to demoralize people by labeling them with a criminal record where people start to have a sense of learned helplessness.
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Man, I'm sorry to hear you got such a bum wrap. The best advice I can give is that you may have to settle for a pretty crappy job for a little while. Two years ago I was a college graduate scrubbing dishes at a nursing home. The reason: I had 2 DWIs and my license was suspended so the best job I could get was at the nursing home across the street from where I lived.

I think if you get a shitty job, bust your ass, and prove to them you are worth promoting, then you would not be in a bad position. Most companies promote from within anyways. You will also have some experience which makes you look more hireable (is that a word?) to future companies. It just takes time. There is a threshold where, after so many years have passed, a lot of companies might forgive you of your past transgressions. You just have stay out of trouble and prove to them that you are not young and stupid anymore.
 
cilosyb said:
The problem is that I still have a record of arrest, and a record of being charged. I notice that more and more employment, visa, etc forms don't merely ask if you've been convicted; they ask about being arrested, being charged, or even if you've had anything expunged from your record! That last one really pisses me off. I mean what the fuck is the point of getting an expungment then!? Plus it still doesn't get rid of an arrest record anyway. Sigh.
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Are you obligated to tell an employer about crimes you were accused, but not convicted of? Are you obligated to tell them about things expunged from your record?
 
bighooter said:
i got a criminal recored for drug dealing

i can never live in a different country

do you understand how bitter this makes me feel knowing i will die in England a place full of wanker$.

then theres the point of being turned down from most jobs coz of a criminal record
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wtf??
You can't even live in another country if you marry into it?
 
While this does not exactly meet the guidelines of the subject posted, it's safe to say that I, without any past convictions- not even a speeding ticket, have been SO unsuccessful with finding work. (LA is in the shitter as far as that goes- and i'm a pretty aiight looking girl, too).. So everyone, before you bum hard on how charges fucked up your life, just remember that so many people are struggling right now and maybe the job market will be getting better soon. Don't give yourselves a hard time over "success".. No one seems to have that shit right now.

You know? As a girl , even just having tattooed arms has dicked me over good with any corporate opportunity.. Then I realized that this would be forcing me to dig deeper and maybe find an employer that's more laid back and a job I really fit in at, rather than just being lazy and settling for a corp. job that I despise. Good luck to all of you, chins up ;) we'll come up.
 
XbookstoreX said:
wtf??
You can't even live in another country if you marry into it?
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I know when I married a Canadian and moved to Canada I had to go throught the long process called Rehabilitation for a felony. It cost $2000 total, took 2 years, and I finally got her Majesty's forgiveness to go ahead and apply for a spousal visa, which would have taked 2 more years.

I have a felony from 1990 (robbery). I have been in the corporate world (that bullshit, cold nonsense world of illogic) for 15 years. In the beginning because of background checks I would mention this as "youthful indiscretion", and got into the working world. Once I gained experience I became more valuable and I did get another job after working for 7 years. So in 2005 I did mention the felony to the HR person, who wondered if a 15 year old felony even comes up as background checks usually go back only a certain amount of years. Well it did not come up. So needless to say this year when I got another job in the same industry I simply said no on the application. I will not relive and explain that ever again. I had been advised by most people to forget about it now that it's 20 years.

So in response to the original question, yes, I have a conviction and have been very successful in the working world. But I have to define success: "being comfortable with who I am and not letting any opinions of others make me feel less worthy". As a result I have been making money in the working world. In fact just this last few months I had decline certain employment opportunities as I waited for the right one.

Go with your gut here. Do not listen to anyone else tell you what you should or shouldn't do. Everyone knows everything, yet no one knows nothing. If someones says that old felony will haunt you, simply reply you will not let it haunt and watch your life work out just fine. Mine has.
 
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Yeah, I've heard this about Canada, however Canada is more of a problem because after 9/11 they started sharing their criminal databases with the US and vice versa so they will know if you're an American with a felony. Also, DUI's are considered felonies in Canada. They will not let you in by standard procedures, even for a short visit if you're driving across the border
But I wanna understand wtf the UK thing means...?
 
I've heard a lot of stories about people who were sentenced quite heavily and they recovered and are now riding on million dollar businesses. However one story in particular has incapsulated me from a different state where I live, i.e. Australia.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=534474

Also some of you may even remember the guy who operated a 1 tonne marijuana drug trade business. He's now producing a popular show in Canada and also did volunteer work at rehab places after himself having a coke habbit.
 
I have multiple charges due to alcohol and drug abuse. I have managed to maintain my license to practice social worker and I have held jobs that would be considered successful.
The reality is that because I am in the "helping" field, most agencies are more likely to believe in rehabilitation and the abillity to "better" yourself. However, I always have to do alot of explaining in the hiring process.
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that is partly BS though! Within the EU you can go to any country and work. Plus, you *could* even lie about convictions, because they are not shared within the EU across borders. Even if, some stuff may not be a felony in another EU country (e.g. portugal, netherlands, czech rep) or they may not care as much. Right now, especially Germanies economy is going really well so if you need a job... the average pay is also higher than in the UK.
Anyway, I am *pretty* sure convictions are not share across the EU, and even if, that doesnt preclude you from taking advantage of your freedom to move and work within the EU, as you have EU citizenship. Your claim is not true.
 
i have a felony for PWID/manufacture/delivery of a gram of hard. I served 2 years on that bullshit...now it seems as if i'll never find a job. I've been looking all over the place and things are not happening for me, regardless of how many applications and resumes I've sent out over the last 6 months...i was released in 2008...its 2011 and the only jobs I've been able to obtain entail some very strenuous labor
Having a herniated L5 I dont know how much more of that kind of work i'm willing to do at the expense of my health. I'm holding out for some kind of work this year but im on temp. disability for the next few months, mind you this temp disability comes with none of the benefits of conventional disability, i can utilize cash assistance from welfare...i guess something is better than nothing.
 
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