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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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ugh1979 said:
I had a wonderful experience with MXE at the weekend.

What I look for in ketamine is getting in to the 'next-to-zero-gravity, semi dimensional 95% full visual hallucination parallel universe' ASAP. I'm not really interested in it for it's lighter effects and don't like using it in a social situation as it just makes me feel anti-social and unable to communicate properly. I'm all about the lying back and experiencing high disassociation where the room turns into a cool cruise ship, a beautifully designed mansion or 5pm in the Polo Lounge in Beverley Hills or whatever lol. I find it fascinating and so aesthetically pleasing, and it usually makes music an incredible experience as it almost controls where I float and drift to in that other world. (Although at low doses it can make music sound weird and hollow, which I noticed again with MXE before I went 'under')

I started of 50mg sub-lingual with a friend, which was OK but didn't have the desired effect, so we took another 50mg sub-lingual a couple of hours later, but again, nothing too exciting to report. I'm sure some people would have liked it but it wasn't what I was looking for. A couple of hours later again I followed up by snorting 50mg and that took me where I want to be. Nice...

Later that day I tried snorting some more and again, got to the place I wanted to be. I then continued in this fashion with more 50mg lines for the rest of the day, so overall I had a good 12 hours (at least) in and out of the magic dimension so I was happy that MXE was doing just as what good ket does but lasting longer and needing a much lower dosage.

I did notice the the return to baseline took a lot longer than on ket and it was a good 6 hours or so where I was in some half state where I was just kind of tired and trying to watch TV, but still unable to function (I couldn't type for example). Big ket sessions usually leave me feeling a bit cold and empty and end up with me just going to sleep but this MXE experience turned into a wonderful warm fuzzy feeling of bliss, that I think I need to put down to the opiate effect that is being reported. I have no experience with any opiates so have no frame of reference but it was very very nice and a pleasant surprise alternative to what is usually a cold comedown from ket. I topped up with a dose of aMT and Phenibut and had a wonderful time for the next 6 hours before going to sleep. (And feeling brilliant the next day i may add)

As I say, sub-lingual was a bit disappointing but maybe I didn't hold it long enough. It was only a minute at most as the taste got a bit unpleasant. I have more to try this weekend so I'll try going straight for intranasal and see if it does what I want.

Highly recommended stuff IMO.
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Now this is EXACTLY what I want to hear!! So happy! I too like to be in special rooms on K, my favorite being the "MGM Grand Casino", seeing "MGM Grand Greens and Red's", while my sweet vocal trance in my heaphones guides my journey while I have my eyes shut and covered with a towel.
 
knockando said:
I don't have that information, tell me!
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Trust me, I pre-ordered it so I should be getting it any day here in the states and you will be the first person I will let know so you can add it to your chart. I got it all mapped out on how I'm going to do it for both starting dose purposes and full on ket world doses like I like, but not being stupid about it.
 
nanoshot said:
Now this is EXACTLY what I want to hear!! So happy! I too like to be in special rooms on K, my favorite being the "MGM Grand Casino", seeing "MGM Grand Greens and Red's", while my sweet vocal trance in my heaphones guides my journey while I have my eyes shut and covered with a towel.
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ohhhhh last night I was on an intergalactic cruise ship, and I made first contact with alien lifeforms. They told me the meaning of life, but before I had a chance to find human words, the planet and myself got sucked into a vortex and Thom Yorke's voice echoed out on the other side, his lyrics lining the fabric of the universe.

If that is what happens on ketamine, I can understand why people love it. That is what I experienced on MXE last night. All this stuff my brain can do, and I never realised it. That is unless of course, I really did visit aliens last night and learn the meaning of life. It's hard to tell.
 
nanoshot said:
Now this is EXACTLY what I want to hear!! So happy! I too like to be in special rooms on K, my favorite being the "MGM Grand Casino", seeing "MGM Grand Greens and Red's", while my sweet vocal trance in my heaphones guides my journey while I have my eyes shut and covered with a towel.
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'Special rooms' are where I love to be when on K and MXE takes you there as well for sure. Funny you should say 'MGM Grand Casino'. I'm familiar with that venue when on K myself and was definitely back in the Las Vegas area on MXE at the weekend. :lol:

However, I experience all my visuals with my eyes open. I never shut my eyes when in the hole as what I am seeing is too fascinating. It's so cool as it means I have a mix of things in the room I am in, (sometimes the only thing left from reality is the TV), and everything else transforms and moves expands upwards and outwards leaving me a beautiful cool room.

It feels like I'm on Grand Designs sometimes and i'm in my dream house. :)
 
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Snorted 25mg 2 hours ago
another 25mg 5 minutes ago.

Pretty mild so far. Floaty, lucid and slightly 'up' but not stimulated.

It seems more substantial than Ketamine, which although lovely, seems like psychological mouthwash and somehow empty.
 
In lower doses it feels very similar to ketamine, and that is a problem. It's moreish and have a very long come up.
It's very easy to start taking too much. I did 350 in a few hours when i had the last batch, and i consider myself careful and experienced. I'm happy that was all i had left.

Anyhow, that night i did 350 i frequently sat down and just tried to analyze my body functions since mxe was all new. I never noticed anything odd with my heart. Pulse was raised, sure, just as with ketamine. But nothing more than that. It felt benign.

Of course it's stupid to IV 80 mg like the swede did. But.. All this comparison and naming like M-KET is extremely dangerous. Ketamine is one of the safest drugs out there, and virtually impossible to kill yourself on. Obviously this is not true for mxe. I mean, almost a heart attack on 400 mg?
400 is not that much. The first night i tried this (After allergy/sensitivity test) i did 150 mg. It was strong, but nothing near a serious ketamine journey. Ok, i have a ketamine tolerance, but i haven't taken THAT much ket.in my life. Just a few weekends with all night sessions.

And then we have the psychological aspect too. This is trouble. :(
 
incognition said:
In lower doses it feels very similar to ketamine, and that is a problem. It's moreish and have a very long come up.
It's very easy to start taking too much. I did 350 in a few hours when i had the last batch, and i consider myself careful and experienced. I'm happy that was all i had left.

Anyhow, that night i did 350 i frequently sat down and just tried to analyze my body functions since mxe was all new. I never noticed anything odd with my heart. Pulse was raised, sure, just as with ketamine. But nothing more than that. It felt benign.

Of course it's stupid to IV 80 mg like the swede did. But.. All this comparison and naming like M-KET is extremely dangerous. Ketamine is one of the safest drugs out there, and virtually impossible to kill yourself on. Obviously this is not true for mxe. I mean, almost a heart attack on 400 mg?
400 is not that much. The first night i tried this (After allergy/sensitivity test) i did 150 mg. It was strong, but nothing near a serious ketamine journey. Ok, i have a ketamine tolerance, but i haven't taken THAT much ket.in my life. Just a few weekends with all night sessions.

And then we have the psychological aspect too. This is trouble. :(
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You IV'd 150mg?

and it was 80-100mg Methoxetamine, 400mg MDAI, I think you know this but you're not consistent in your post.


Read what fastandbulbous said a while back, he knows what he's talking about:

I've IMed it in quite large doses and it's been OK, but then again, with IV it delivers all of the drug to the brain in about 15 seconds; this sort of plasma concentration of the drug could have unforseen side effects (a similar thing applies to the opioid dextromoramide, it's OK to give IM for severe pain, but IV use is avoided as by that route it can cause a fatal drop in blood pressure).

So, basically it's probably OK, but I would also first try a small dose (about 5-10 percent of intended full dose), just to make sure that you don't get a overwhelming rssponse, or at least more than you were expecting
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Sorry. I'm a bit upset. You are right.
No, i didn't IV 150. I was talking about that thinking of the guys who snorted 400.
 
nanoshot said:
Has anyone in the USA gotten theirs yet? If so, when was it shipped from the UK?
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I haven't got it yet and I'm on the east coast of the USA. It shipped from the UK last wednesday. It's only been 8 days so I'm not worried about it, but I am excited.
 
Wow, this is like ketamine, but in a thick, Christmas cardigan type way. Very warm, happy and full. Opiod without the scratching and woozyness. Perfectly sane but there's a duvet in my brain.
 
Demonocracy said:
I was wondering if anybody else has experienced kidney pain or swelling in the 24 hrs following taking Methoxetamine?

It was my first time of trying this RC on Tuesday. Following an allergy test the day before of 3-5mg, I dosed 25mg sublingually. I wanted to keep my dosage low to start with as I'm not very experienced with dissociatives. I can't say it was an amazing experience but I have been suffering with a cold this week so that probably didn't help. I didn't consume anything else like alcohol which might have had a negative effect on my body. The only thing I did take was a lemsip about 12 hours prior.

About 6 hours after ingestion I noticed the first signs of aching in my kidneys and at around the 12 hour mark I could feel pressure on back whislt lying in bed. I have suffered with enlarged kidneys only once in my life when my prostate became infected and blocked my ureters so I know that was deffinately the pain I was feeling. It's now almost 72 hrs later and the pressure and pain is almost gone but I find myself very aprehensive about trying this again. My dose was quite low and I understand that not everybody will react the same to a certain chemical.

I bought the stuff from a reliable source and my girlfriend had a great time on the same dose with no ill effects so this does seem to be a 'Me' thing :(
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I have been experiencing this lately, actually it's been 6 days since MXE and I'm still getting back pain... I've had this on other disassociatives but this does seem pretty bad, bit worrying I'm wondering if it has something to do with constipation from mu opiod activity... I had my piss tested for kidney problems and it came back fine, back still hurts.. .but yeah, I've definitely noticed this for a long time after...
 
I love K and MDMA combo. Has anyone experienced methoxetamine with methylone? Is it comparable?
 
Not comparable because with methylone there's an up an down but with methoxtamine there's just a softening and warming and colouring of everything.
 
This stuff can take me wat furtur than ketamine and, as has been said, the longer comeup tends to lull one into a false sense of security. Last night I found my disembodied spirit floating through space in some far away galaxy. At the time I understood how I got there but at the the time coming back scared the shit out of me. Much more interesting and "warmer" feeling than K.
This was with a 100mg dose. I wouldn't take a dose higher than this.
 
theghostofbillhicks said:
Wow, this is like ketamine, but in a thick, Christmas cardigan type way. Very warm, happy and full. Opiod without the scratching and woozyness. Perfectly sane but there's a duvet in my brain.
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Best description ever. I've only experienced an MXE pullover so far but can't wait for an MXE Christmas Cardigan :)
 
Can someone please provide a rough estimate of peak/duration for this please?

When Is a safe time to redose after the initial dose?
 
I should receive some MXE tomorrow and was hoping to sample it. I planned on trying the tiniest amount possible and build up. Thing is, I have no scales.

I know the standard reply will be get some scales first but could some post a picture of say 50mg against a ruler. It might be beneficial for people in the same situation and help prevent further mistakes. Thanks for any replies.
 
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