The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

[DOB]

^I felt my heartbeat just slightly elevated and in fact felt very mentally and physically relaxed despite feeling the amphetamine energy on DOC. Never tried other DOx but C is pretty chill I find...

how much you had? on medium dose DOB trip my awerage heartbeat from peak to the start of the comedown ( 14-18 hours ) is around 100-120bpm all the time ( sitting,not moving ).Maybe I should listen less breakcore and more dubstep :D

 

[Al_S_Dee]

yeah maybe it was the banging bass and not your heartbeat
I took 2.5 mg and it was quite sedate.. not sleepy or anything but just slightly elevated bod temp, and heartbeat.

 

[(((zen)))]

i only had an experience with DOC once. it was extremely strong and mystical. holy. total ego destruction, in a manner of speaking a "zen" state. which i was looking for on DOC. but... the drug is really cruel after hours. i am kinda person who can not sleep easily after stimulants, especially. so, i took DOC at 14:00 on saturday, the trip began about 17:00. and the peak went on for hours. so many things happened in this period, maybe in a trip report i can tell the details so, about 02:00 am in the morning i was still tripping hard. finally, towards the sunday morning the drug began to fall but it was still quite strong. i was totally exhausted and wanted to have some rest. but, no way man! my mind was still racing so hard as my body. i was still feeling the electric-like effect running through my muscles. so hours went on and on, still wide awake, lying on the bed. i tried vodka, weed and histamines and at last, about 19:00 sunday evening, i fall asleep. so this means, T +29:00. a fucking long binge! wish, DOC was shorter.

so, a question for y'all: my dose was about 3.0 mg. if i cut the tab into half, a dose like 1.0 or 1.5 mg will last as long as this?

 

[bunnyhentman]

Just posted a first time TR on DOC.

Definitely underdosed this (or my lifetime phenethylamine tolerance is higher than I hoped... it had been over 2 weeks since my last go)

Overall, it was interesting for its differences from the other phens... no problems eating (actually, food was lovely), heaviness in my limbs but not my brain, very clear-headed and "awake" afterglow.

I was trying it out as a possible addition to a vacation menu, but I don't think it will do for a long day in a foreign city. I'll probably go with 2c-p instead, that was a lot more interesting and fun for me (or acid).

 

[asplinteredfawn]

Has anyone besides me blacked out on high doses? I was misinformed about how much was on a blotter paper that I thought was lsd and it was doc and I dosed +10mg. I blacked out and ran around speaking gibberish and screaming random words while seizing. Yet the whole time I was doing this I had no idea I was even me. I basically entered this very intense trip with hyperdimensional beings that looked sort of like the suits in a scanner darkly ( i hadn't seen this film at the time ). If you have please message me I'd love to talk about your experience.

 

[any major dude]

sheesh, sorry bout that man. how long were you out?

 

[killo]

Has anyone besides me blacked out on high doses? I was misinformed about how much was on a blotter paper that I thought was lsd and it was doc and I dosed +10mg. I blacked out and ran around speaking gibberish and screaming random words while seizing. Yet the whole time I was doing this I had no idea I was even me. I basically entered this very intense trip with hyperdimensional beings that looked sort of like the suits in a scanner darkly ( i hadn't seen this film at the time ). If you have please message me I'd love to talk about your experience.

Sounds like a typical DOx overdose.

Or high dose.

 

[Xorkoth]

Actually yes... I've blacked out on all kinds of substances, including DOC, DOM, 2C-E, mushrooms, 4-HO-DMT and 4-AcO-DMT. I find that extremely powerful psychedelics can cause a temporary black-out if the peak effects become too strong. It seems to me that the ego-dissolving effects become so dissolving that the ego is temporary completely suppressed, leaving you with no memory of the event. Ordinarily with strong ego dissolving pscyhedelics, your ego is diminished/dissolved significantly, but there is some part left there so that "you" the human can experience and remember the trip.

I have not, however, ever ended up running around screaming or speaking gibberish or anything like that... I've ended up slumped in my chair or bed or something and come to in the same place.

 

[Xorkoth]

i only had an experience with DOC once. it was extremely strong and mystical. holy. total ego destruction, in a manner of speaking a "zen" state. which i was looking for on DOC. but... the drug is really cruel after hours. i am kinda person who can not sleep easily after stimulants, especially. so, i took DOC at 14:00 on saturday, the trip began about 17:00. and the peak went on for hours. so many things happened in this period, maybe in a trip report i can tell the details so, about 02:00 am in the morning i was still tripping hard. finally, towards the sunday morning the drug began to fall but it was still quite strong. i was totally exhausted and wanted to have some rest. but, no way man! my mind was still racing so hard as my body. i was still feeling the electric-like effect running through my muscles. so hours went on and on, still wide awake, lying on the bed. i tried vodka, weed and histamines and at last, about 19:00 sunday evening, i fall asleep. so this means, T +29:00. a fucking long binge! wish, DOC was shorter.

so, a question for y'all: my dose was about 3.0 mg. if i cut the tab into half, a dose like 1.0 or 1.5 mg will last as long as this?

It will still last nearly as long... a lot longer than half the duration. But if 3mg lasted 29 hours for you, 1.5 would likely last maybe 22 to 24. So still very long.

Personally I always LOVE the aftereffects of DOC... to me, the plateau stage (after the peak, starting around hour 10) is a state of grace. I wish I could feel that way forever. Everything feels easy and positive and energetic and good, and my mind feels lubricated and brilliant. I used to use DOC quite a bit and I got lots of good work done during those states... I'd use DOC about 10-12 hours before I was going to go into a significant social situation and be the life of the party. Great stuff... DOC is possibly my favorite drug of all.

 

[Xorkoth]

I recomend you to drop two tabs ( theres no chance it will be too much ),wait 4-5 hours and if its too weak drop more but be aware that it will take 10 hours to feel intense high if you redose and thats very long time,it can be hard on your mind and body becose around the time second dose will take effect you will normaly go to sleep.Be careful man,I never redosed with any DOx in my life,extrelmy long duration,stimulation and very sloooow onset... this shit is not good to redose.DOx makes your heartbeat go very fast,I think ist big stress to your heart,mdma do it too but thats 3-5 hours.

^I felt my heartbeat just slightly elevated and in fact felt very mentally and physically relaxed despite feeling the amphetamine energy on DOC. Never tried other DOx but C is pretty chill I find...

The reason for your discrepancies in experiences is because DOB is the most physically intense and taxing of the DOXs. I find DOB to be hard on the body and heart, whereas DOC is smooth and light and actually makes me feel relaxed physically, though paradoxically I have plenty of energy. DOC feels very at-home in my body (after a sometimes uncomfotrable come-up - though also sometimes not), but DOB feels unwanted by my body.

Of course we're all affected differently but I think more people tend to find DOC much cleaner and gentler on the body than DOB.

Also, DOB lasts longer than DOC and takes longer to develop... I get a good strong trip going after 2 hours on DOC, though the peak really lasts from about 3-8 hours, and starts dropping off by 10. DOB doesn't really swing up until maybe 4 for me and then doesn't peak until around 6... and the peak lasts maybe from 6-12 hours. So they have different timeframes.

 

[any major dude]

DOC is smooth and light and actually makes me feel relaxed physically, though paradoxically I have plenty of energy. DOC feels very at-home in my body (after a sometimes uncomfotrable come-up - though also sometimes not), but DOB feels unwanted by my body.

Of course we're all affected differently but I think more people tend to find DOC much cleaner and gentler on the body than DOB.

Would this be comparable to the great body feel one gets with 2c-c? I hadn't tried 2c-c because I wasn't a huge fan of 2c-i or 2c-b, but DOC has had my interest for a while now, and not being able to get ahold of any DOC, I opted for the phenethylamine counterpart. Its easily my favorite halogenated 2c.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I love DOC... probably in my top 5. I especially love the afterglow it leaves me in the following day, but I'm sure I've mentioned this elsewhere in this thread already

Used to have a wonderful stash of this compound but it got flushed a couple years ago... long story. Makes me want to cry everytime I think about it.

Anyways, I did managed to hold onto 9mg of DOC but it is dissolved in everclear (not sure if was 151 or 190 proof atm) and has been stored in an airtight vial that has been kept in the dark at room temperature for about 3 years.

I know these compounds are very stable and degrade very slowly but I'm not sure about long term stability in such a solution. Any thoughts or personal experiences? Would it be ok to continue to store in this way... it could very well be several more years before I ever get around to using it.

 

[SKL]

yea DOC in EtOH will outlive you

 

[Xorkoth]

Fortunately, your DOC is fine.

Would this be comparable to the great body feel one gets with 2c-c? I hadn't tried 2c-c because I wasn't a huge fan of 2c-i or 2c-b, but DOC has had my interest for a while now, and not being able to get ahold of any DOC, I opted for the phenethylamine counterpart. Its easily my favorite halogenated 2c.

Actually I get mediocre effects from 2C-C. I prefer 2C-B's body high by quite a bit and I have yet to get anything mentally interesting from 2C-C. 2C-C has a very calm feeling but I'm not a big fan.

 

[SKL]

I actually actively dislike 2C-C; I can't put my finger on why, but I don't care for it.

There is definitely not a 1:1 correspondence between the alpha-methylated and non-alpha methylated psychedelic phens. I hate DOB, but like 2CB; I like 2C-D a great deal, but am indifferent on DOM

 

[any major dude]

Fortunately, your DOC is fine.



Actually I get mediocre effects from 2C-C. I prefer 2C-B's body high by quite a bit and I have yet to get anything mentally interesting from 2C-C. 2C-C has a very calm feeling but I'm not a big fan.

I found the effects didn't get all that interesting until >40mg, with 60 being really cool, but unfortunately the highest dosage i've tried. Plan on taking it a bit higher next time i procure some The mental effects were quite mild though, about like a latte & some nice kind bud, but more physically relaxed. Almost definitely a purely recreational substance, but recreation has its place. I suppose i could see it aiding in meditation or some other spiritual practice as its very user directed. Also it lacks the time dilating effect that make other 2c's a poor choice for attempting things like yoga or meditation.

 

[Help?!?!]

Any recommendations on where to start doses with this one? I hate getting the "your almost there feeling" but also know DOC isn't once to play with. So I was thinking over 2mgs but probably not over 3?

 

[LacunaSamsara]

I'm going to say one thing in this vein... never thought I'd say this but here it is and you can quote me:

"DOC is everything LSD was trying to be but failed miserably in achieving."


Yeah. That's right.
And I'm not being facetious.

 

[Kapitan]

DOC is everything LSD was trying to be but failed miserably in achieving.

That's great to hear. I'll be trying mine as soon as I find a spare 12-24 hours. Maybe in a couple of weeks

And just as an aside, this DOC HCl (?) is not very soluble in ethanol. I couldn't find any information on this, so I tried it, and it only dissolved once I added some water to the ethanol. Even heating up the EtOH didn't help significantly.

 

[Xorkoth]

I heard from someone that the4 DOC just goijg around was tested and is not really DOC. Which sucks balls. For two reasons. One, that would mean i's not really DOC> And two, I can't afford that type of purchase anytime soon. Why must it be so hard to f9nd my holy grail?? 8(

Maybe a nice friend with trade me some or something