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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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I took DOC twice about 4 years ago

It was not a great idea, I had never had any psychedelic experience. The closest I had come was DXM. Looking back it is hard to clearly remember the details enough to write a solid TR, but I can say some things about the substance. With my current level of experience with hallucinogens I can say that DOC was very easy going, little body high, very spacey, good strong visuals. The first time I took it was a terrifying night, I had been warned about it's potency, and told to take half a blotter. I took half, waited about an hour then took the other half since I saw no efeects. About twenty minutes later it hit hard and fast, I was frightened by the whole experience, but mostly just having strange thoughts that were freaking me out( i.e. I'm hallucinating this reality and my body is outside wandering around freezing to death.) Had I not been getting stuck in these thought patterns I would have been fine.

The second time was very pleasant, I took only a half blotter, and spent the night laying in the semi-dark (I had found both full lighting and complete darkness unpleasant) in a dream-like state remembering somebody I missed and telling them everything I wished I had. It allowed me some freedom from the guilt of what i had done to this person. All in all I would be very happy to come across some again, I preferred the lack of a body high over acids static waves thing. Although acids visuals are much better, I've always had trouble with the come up on acid, DOC allows you kind of just slip into the trip without noticing you are.
 
I took ~1mg of DOC dissolved in alcohol and water solution the day after I tripped on acid. I know phenethylamines and tryptames don't have a cross tolerance so I expected to at least feel a mild DOC high but, to my surprise, I did not feel anything! Maybe it got absorbed by the food I ate right after dosing the DOC?? (I was hungry from acid tripping the previous night). I don't understand- it was strange.

I guess I'll try again with 2mgs and no LSD the night before.
 
1mg of DOC is less than a threshold dose for me. espescially with a full belly and the trip the day before. tryptamines and phenethylamines probably do have at least a bit of cross tolerance, though definitely not as much as two different drugs from the same family.

with no tolerance, i don't reach a + or ++ with DOC much below 1.5mg.
 
Tryptamines and phenethylamines have cross-tolerance. Acid is an ergotamine. It's a common mistake to call it a tryptamine. I think it's because it's listed in tihkal.
 
I have done DOC once. It was in the form of blotter, but I knew it was DOC and not LSD ahead of time. I had 2.5 squares of blotter of unknown strength. I suspect it was 1mg per square but have no other DOC experiences to compare against, so this is just a guess.

The experience was wonderful. I came up relatively fast (possibly because I held the blotter under my tongue for a long while?), and by 1.5 hours I was tripping quite hard. I experienced no nausea throughout the trip. The most prominent visual effect was that of rainbow halos around objects, especially light sources. Colors were intensified, and the world seemed very crisp. There wasn't a lot of the moving, flowing visuals that are common on LSD and the tryptamines. Mentally, I felt very clear, invigorated, positive, and affectionate. As with most phenethylamines, there is reason for comparison to MDMA, but the effects are much less pushy. Physically, I felt stimulated, but not unpleasantly so. There was a definite body tremor - in fact, this was the experience that made me really understand what that meant. This wasn't unpleasant either.

About 10 hours into the experience, the strength dropped off far enough that I felt the main phases of the DOC trip (comeup, hard-trip, lucid-trip) were over, so I took two hits of liquid acid. Needless to say, this kicked the intensity right back up there, and the combination of these two drugs produced WONDERFUL visuals. There was no increase in body load, and the two drugs seemed to wear off around the same time. This was my intention, since I am very sensitive to stimulation and it makes it impossible for me to sleep anyway. Figuring that I would be awake at least 24 hours after taking DOC anyway, I thought adding acid to the last 12 hours or so couldn't hurt.

DOC is, IMO, much, MUCH better than DOB. It feels cleaner and smoother in some way. I don't think I'd say the same of 2C-C vs. 2C-B, though. I love 2C-B, and I've never done 2C-C, but I prefer more "intense" 2C's, while the same is not necessarily true of DOx's.
 
Tryptamines and phenethylamines have cross-tolerance. Acid is an ergotamine. It's a common mistake to call it a tryptamine. I think it's because it's listed in tihkal.

Ahh... I knew but did not discern that a ergotamine and tryptamine would be different classes. Something to keep in mind.
 
DOC is, IMO, much, MUCH better than DOB..

8o :! :X =D

It isnt better,just different.... DOB is more hardcore version of DOC

more visual,stronger,more stimulating,longer duration,more intense music,more bodyhigh & euphoria.... its even more spiritual for me but that isnt truth for all people.

Get a clean DOB and witness the truth,usualy street grade dob is very dirty,somethimes there is DOB,little dose of any DOx and countless bi products.This make it overstimulating toxic nightmare full of vasoconstriction.I had 99% + pure DOB and its very different from street blotters ( some dob blotters are ok ) Its like street rollz ( piperazine,meth,pma,amphetamines... ) compared to pure MDMA,its feels like completly different drug.For people that cant handle power of this ridiculiously potent psychedelic I recomend using DOC or DOM.
 
I'm curious about re dosing on DO* substances after taking an initial dose.
Is it similar to LSD were tolerance builds very quickly or can you dose far later into your trip with an increase in intensity?
Also is the come up as long when re dosing?
 
I'm curious about re dosing on DO* substances after taking an initial dose.
Is it similar to LSD were tolerance builds very quickly or can you dose far later into your trip with an increase in intensity?
Also is the come up as long when re dosing?

with dob you really dont need to redose.... with 3mg+ dose you will be tripping for 2-3 days
 
I took 2.5mgs this morning and my pupils are still dilated at +13 hours. It was a fun trip though. I find it to be quite controllable.. I was out with buddies one of whom didn't know till very later that I was even tripping. Had loads of laughs though :)
 
Hmm I still feel wired the next day a bit. Not bad but I can still feel the stimulation in my backbone, like my nervous system is still operating in overtime a bit. It's fun as I enjoy free after-glows.
Does anyone also feel a bit cognitively enhanced the next day? Like I still feel the a bit more lucid and able to view things from a humorous stance almost.
 
with dob you really dont need to redose.... with 3mg+ dose you will be tripping for 2-3 days

Hmm then DOB probably lasts longer than DOC.

2.5 mg kept me up for 18 hours after which I was able to fall asleep with aid from 0.5 mg of Lorazepam. I didn't get a deep sleep but I was asleep for 5-6 hours.
 
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A warning on DOC, I, & B...

A number of years ago a I met a group of kids working "DO..".substances @ a festi. in one of the middle states selling them as "Doses". As these sort of things are often rare in these parts and their rapport in the scene was quite good they had little problems getting the better portion of kids high on this stuff. The next morning I spent several hours trying to calm kids down who were still tripping hard 12-18 hours latter. Several people including some of the band members were hospitalized as a result (not knowing what they had taken, having long hard trips, fears of death,etc.). I personally chewed out the individuals for misrepresenting their product as "doses" asking them, "What do you think these people think they're buying?" After being warned several times by the highest levels of authority at the festival one of the elders, whom I personally know to be to be very, very cool, decided that the best course of action (considering they had been warned many many times with little concern that people were being hospitalized) would be to write a statement to the local police who then located the camp and raided not just their camp but all the adjacent camps as well. Little to nothing was found but vehicles along with personal belongings were confiscated.
8o

~Just a warning to all of those putting this stuff on blotter & selling it as "Doses" which implies LSD. Selling this without letting the user know what it is can cause hospitalization and even death. :(

Be Kind To Your Fellow Trippers And Don't be Greedy!

~PLUR~
 
Hmm I still feel wired the next day a bit. Not bad but I can still feel the stimulation in my backbone, like my nervous system is still operating in overtime a bit. It's fun as I enjoy free after-glows.
Does anyone also feel a bit cognitively enhanced the next day? Like I still feel the a bit more lucid and able to view things from a humorous stance almost.

Absolutely. I love the DOC afterglow above most other afterglows. The cognitive enhancement is one of the primary features of DOC to me (of all DOXs to an extent but especially DOC), and it persists into the entire afterglow.
 
with dob you really dont need to redose.... with 3mg+ dose you will be tripping for 2-3 days

lol that's pretty intense man. I was mainly wondering about redosing because all the DOx(mostly DOI) in my city is on tabs so the dose is hard to gauge and if you don't go high enough it can a bit of an annoying next 12-24 hours without sleep.
 
lol that's pretty intense man. I was mainly wondering about redosing because all the DOx(mostly DOI) in my city is on tabs so the dose is hard to gauge and if you don't go high enough it can a bit of an annoying next 12-24 hours without sleep.

I recomend you to drop two tabs ( theres no chance it will be too much ),wait 4-5 hours and if its too weak drop more but be aware that it will take 10 hours to feel intense high if you redose and thats very long time,it can be hard on your mind and body becose around the time second dose will take effect you will normaly go to sleep.Be careful man,I never redosed with any DOx in my life,extrelmy long duration,stimulation and very sloooow onset... this shit is not good to redose.DOx makes your heartbeat go very fast,I think ist big stress to your heart,mdma do it too but thats 3-5 hours.
 
^I felt my heartbeat just slightly elevated and in fact felt very mentally and physically relaxed despite feeling the amphetamine energy on DOC. Never tried other DOx but C is pretty chill I find...
 
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