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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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Combining a vasoconstrictor like DOC with a bad vasoconstrictor like Mephedron is surely a very good idea NOT
 
I'm not sure where to put this... so I'm putting it in both possible threads.

Does anyone have any personal experience dissolving DOC in dH2O? I've read mostly that it dissolves very well... some saying as high as 33mg/ml... But I also have just read a few reports of it not wanting to dissolve in water at all.

I see it being pretty soluble in water, really. 2c-c was very soluble in water and amphetamines are generally water soluble.. I don't know why this one wouldn't be... but after a report of some kid being a dumbass and drinking part of a half dissolved solution of 25mg and having a very very intense trip. The kid said he kept adding water and it just wasn't dissolving right. I just want to be certain before attempting to make a solution.

Any solid first hand remarks anyone can offer to me? If you have put it into dH2O, how soluble did it seem? ethanol remarks are welcome for contrast as well.

Thanks!
 
In my experience, it formed a complete solution (not an emulsion). BUT the highest concentration has been 2mg/ml, so I wouldn't know how it behaves upwards of that. I would also add ethanol to prevent any contamination when in storage. The liquid composition would be 1 part ethanol/3 parts water, and the desired amount of DOC. The DOC would not precipitate or emulsify for months, so I figure it's quite soluble...
 
DOC is like a freakin pumped up crazy experiance. you could do anything on that drug.
 
bradoi said:
In my experience, it formed a complete solution (not an emulsion). BUT the highest concentration has been 2mg/ml, so I wouldn't know how it behaves upwards of that. I would also add ethanol to prevent any contamination when in storage. The liquid composition would be 1 part ethanol/3 parts water, and the desired amount of DOC. The DOC would not precipitate or emulsify for months, so I figure it's quite soluble...
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Thanks.

Although this should be as far as I'd never need to dilute it... does anyone have any information on higher solubility?
 
I believe Solypsis posted in the B&D DOI thread that DOB and DOI will go into solution in concentrations up to 30-35 mg/ml. I would be surprised if DOC's solubility differed substantially.
 
Solipsis posted that DOB would go into solution at that rate but he said DOI would go in at 2mg/ml... which is pretty variable.

But it seems most information I've found indicated 30mg/ml is possible... not that I need it anywhere close to that... just wondering if anyone had any personal experience with pushing the max solubility of this compound.
 
ive only tried a small dose of DOM and it was very nice, i liked it alot and wish i could get some other DOx chem. they are so hard to find for me atm
 
How would anybody here compare 2C-E to DOC? I've seen a couple posts ranking DOC above the 2C-E in general. Just curious how you would compare..

Which is more visual, more mental, more easy on the body?

I've got both coming shortly, also curious if anybody has tried combining the compounds.
 
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How would anybody here compare 2C-E to DOC? I've seen a couple posts ranking DOC above the 2C-E in general. Just curious how you would compare..

Which is more visual, more mental, more easy on the body?

I've got both coming shortly, also curious if anybody has tried combining the compounds.
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I have tried both of them just a few times (never combined them though). Out of the ~15 different psychedelic drugs I have tried, 2C-E and DOC are the ones that most resemble an acid trip. I think I could definitely tell the difference, but they are closer than other psychedelics.

I liked DOC better. It was easier to work with for me. But 2C-E is awesome as well. For me DOC was more visual. Actually it is the most visual of the long duration (> a few minutes) psychedelics I have tried. The body load was easier with DOC, but I think 2C-E can be deeper mentally.
 
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Interesting, thanks.

I found 2C-E to be VERY visual, and not overwhelmingly mental. More like random spurts of intelligence would flop outta my brain, but otherwise I was normal.

The visual element is typically my first priority followed by the mental, so this poses well for my DOC.
 
I think the two are very different although you do hear both being compared to LSD quite often.

2c-e i found to be a very deep analytical psychedelic and extremly visual and after the intense peak wears off im filled with great joy/euphoria.

DOC is more "fluffy" and fun in my experience and at times can be pretty euphoric.
The visuals are beautiful but not as strong and in your face as they are with 2c-e. They are closer to the visuals i experience on acid. The body load with this one was just as bad for me as with 2c-e. Both make me very nauseas and i end up puking.
After the puking is done though its a great trip.

remember though that YMMV.
As you can tell by reading both the 2ce thread and the DOC thread some people react to these comlpetely different than others.
Some find 2ce to be deep others find it to be not very mental. Same goes for DOC.

Either way, they are both class A psyhcedelics IMO and i think you'll enjoy trying them out.
 
Yeah in my experience with 2C-E, anything over 20mg had me throw up once. But yes, after that I was delightfully well. So the throwing up part doesn't really bother me all that much.

Interesting how both get compared to Acid, but yet not so much to eachother.
 
LSD is such a complex psychedelic with so many different facets to it.

DOC is similar to some aspects of LSD while 2c-e is similar to others.
But i dont find them similar to each other.

LSD ftw as the most beautiful, deep, fun psychedelic ever.

(sorry for the LSD plug, i just love it so damn much.)
 
Yeah one of these days it'll find me.. until then, its the RC scene... sigh...

Its not really popular in Peru. I really need to get off my ass and prep some Sandy P for mescaline.
 
How would anybody here compare 2C-E to DOC? I've seen a couple posts ranking DOC above the 2C-E in general. Just curious how you would compare..
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For me, DOC is completely translucent on the body, no physical issues at all. By contrast, 2C-E is the "tightest" psychedelic I have ever tried--I couldn't get comfortable in my own body, no matter what, there was just so much "ants in the pants" accompanying 2C-E. I would (and I might have already in this thread), consider DOC second only to LSD in terms of the lack of general body load in comparison to psychedelia engendered.
 
^^ Nope.

FTW is an 'engrish' acronym that means "for the win." It is commonly used on digital communication messageboards linked together via a complex network of tubes (some might even say, a series of tubes) known colloquially as "the internet."
 
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For me, DOC is completely translucent on the body, no physical issues at all. By contrast, 2C-E is the "tightest" psychedelic I have ever tried--I couldn't get comfortable in my own body, no matter what, there was just so much "ants in the pants" accompanying 2C-E. I would (and I might have already in this thread), consider DOC second only to LSD in terms of the lack of general body load in comparison to psychedelia engendered.
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Then I should enjoy it. I dont get much in the way of jitters on 2c-e until I want to sleep, then I'm quite restless. Otherwise I can be comfortable enough to trip and not feel too twitchy.
 
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