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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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Anyone tried the strips yet and notice that they dont take you as far? Before i got these strips(not by choice) 1 8mg subox pill would last me about 3 weeks. Now that I have the strips i'm lucky to get a full week and a half out of it.... its really irritating when I dont have a script and my source is in my hometown(4 hours away from where i live to go to school). I'm guessing its because I would just snort a small amount with the pills, but with the strips I just cut a tiny (what seems comparable) piece off and use it sublingually and i find it isnt holding me 100% for nearly as long. You guys think its the strips that are actually making this difference? Or me just changing my ROA?
 
adubwakka said:
Anyone tried the strips yet and notice that they dont take you as far? Before i got these strips(not by choice) 1 8mg subox pill would last me about 3 weeks. Now that I have the strips i'm lucky to get a full week and a half out of it.... its really irritating when I dont have a script and my source is in my hometown(4 hours away from where i live to go to school). I'm guessing its because I would just snort a small amount with the pills, but with the strips I just cut a tiny (what seems comparable) piece off and use it sublingually and i find it isnt holding me 100% for nearly as long. You guys think its the strips that are actually making this difference? Or me just changing my ROA?
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I think it's just the ROA difference. If I had to use my stash sublingually I know it would not last as long.

Getting 1.5 weeks out of 8mg sublingually isn't bad though.

I haven't used the strips though, probably will never get around to trying them.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I think it's just the ROA difference. If I had to use my stash sublingually I know it would not last as long.

Getting 1.5 weeks out of 8mg sublingually isn't bad though.

I haven't used the strips though, probably will never get around to trying them.
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Yep, thats what I thought.

Anyways, dont waste your time with the strips unless you prefer subling use(which I know you dont). They are much more of a pain in the ass to handle imo.
 
adubwakka said:
Yep, thats what I thought.

Anyways, dont waste your time with the strips unless you prefer subling use(which I know you dont). They are much more of a pain in the ass to handle imo.
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If the strips can fit in a 20 CC syringe, then I can dissolve them for micron filtration. I'm sure it wouldn't be a pain in my ass at all. ;)

SkagKush said:
i SL, and i still dont want strips..................
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Yeah I imagine being able to use a pill cutter, and a pill bottle as opposed to individually wrapped strips, is a lot more convenient.
 
less is more

I think my first post in the new version, it's hard keeping up with all the threads. - Wanted to leave a welcome message to V10 :)

To sum everything up, this is just an anecdote for less is more with suboxone. If you don't want to read the story, fine. If you're bored, click below.

I got wrecked off 2mg sub the other day, and was amazing at how much I was nodding out.
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Anyways, I usually would normally do 4 or 6 mg sub insuffalated. I find that I can switch between dope/bupe very easily, and quickly, never having to be sick in either direction.

Recently, I've gotten jammed off 20 bags of dope (I know we're not to talk prices of dope, but this is the lowest denomination available), or about .1-.2 grams.

Lately, I've noticed that when sniffing 2mg, I've been actually nodding out, which is strange, and has been happening more lately, especially more with sub, than ever before.

There are tolerance drops, and other factors that can be related to this, so this is by no means absolute, however, I wanted to point out that recently I've found that small doses >~2mg are good for a nice nod.

The other night, I had taken 2mg, and was extremely jammed, more so than I had been with dope I had done a few days before.

Just rambling, but it seems I'm in a good shape (not good per say, but an alright state) because I can switch back and forth, can do small amounts, still get jammed off sub, still do dope.


 
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Giving weights of dope is acceptable, whereas prices is against the rules solely because it tells us even less than weights do.

In one country, 1 gram of cocaine or heroin may cost 4, 10, or many more times the original amount of money in a different country.

I'm glad to hear small doses of buprenorphine are working well for you man!
 
what is the best way to avoid paws? im planning to wean off of subs. im taking 1mg a day now, i will soon get to .5mg a day, then less if i can. im not really woried about the WD, i think i will be okay, and able to deal with whatever comes. but getting PAWS has me woried. any thoughts or advice?
 
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what is the best way to avoid paws? im planning to wean off of subs. im taking 1mg a day now, i will soon get to .5mg a day, then less if i can. im not really woried about the WD, i think i will be okay, and able to deal with whatever comes. but getting PAWS has me woried. any thoughts or advice?
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stay at about 0.2mg's /day for atleast a month before jumping off. The PAWS should be non-existant or atleast MUCH less severe.
 
Im sry but your post ddnt make much sense to me. Im sure it makes sense, I just couldnt figure out what you meant by all that 24 hr hydrocodone---->12hr...etc....etc...

I think your talking about the most effective methods for being able to feel the effects of a full agonist while still on a sub maintanence plan.

Well, I know from experience that when I take any dose below 2mg's(as my maintanence dose) I can take a full agonist anytime I want and feel pretty much 100% of its effects. At 4 mg's I can either feel about 80-90% of the effects or I could wait about 4-8 hours and feel 100%. Anything higher than that has too strong of blocking effects and in my opinion you should wait atleast a good 24 hr's after your last sub dose to try to take a full agonist.
 
kelvanE said:
anyone else have any methods of "tipping out" beyond the umbrella of the subutex to take other full-agonists during rare days (for occasional recreation)? strict BMT users don't look.

my thought: taking normal BUPE dose --> 24 hr --> 1 5mg hydrocodone (weak opioid) --> 12 hr --> 1 5mg hydrocodone (weak opioid2) --> 12hr --> STRONG FULL-AGONIST CHOICE

that way, by taking a weak full agonist, you allow your body more time to further metabolize the buprenorphine in your system, making it less plentiful and weaker and thus exerting less influence over the u-opioid receptors. so, instead of bucking a bit, maybe waiting 36hr, you can stretch your "wait time" another 12-18hr, so you'll probably feel the full-agonist much more naturally, around say 48hr point.
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That could work, though I have never tried. I have used heroin 12 hours after a buprenorphine dose to success.
 
still 2mg lol, after i relapsed i wanted to stay at 2mg for four days, to minimize any possible WD.

down to 1 mg in two days hopefully........
 
just some sweats during the night, and few hot flashes.....

nothing serious....just the dope working its way out.......i gotta go do my piss test asap
 
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