Rikodeine/DHC questions

[What was it?]

Why would he be joking?

Thats a perfectly valid question IMHO.

I'm not sure if sorbitol is bad for your anus? But really considering that it is a route for waste excretion (ie. shit) I cant see it being any worse then the crap thats already in there surely? And even oral dosing would it inevitably end up coming out your arse anyway?

Why not save your guts the pain and just put it where its going to end up anyway.

Kind of makes sense to me, and I doubt cough syrup would be any more disgusting that whats already up your arse.

Any more info on this would be great. I'm also interested.

I get good effects off half a bottle, which is 100ml I think?

Does sound like a decent amount of fluid to be plugging but still highly plausible I'd say.

Exactly! I am just tired of swallowing all the crappy sorbitol. I am sure it's dangerous and it gives me cramps/farts. Just wonder if the DHC would be absorbed out of the syrup rectally as good as if taken orally and if direct application of sorbitol is to the behin dside is more dangerous (even though I doubt this as that area is obviously reasonably tough)

 

[What was it?]

I have very little experience with plugging, however I dont see viscousity as being a major issue with absorbtion rates.

Even if it were to inhibit it somewhat, the oral bioavailibility is toted to be around 21% in the mega thread, and I'd say rectal would be much higher and would easily make up for any loss of absorbtion due to viscosity.

This seems incridibly low if you ask me. From user reports it seems that plugging DHC seems to be well superior to oral dosing, and based on overall oral/rectal bioavailibilities you'd say theres going to be a fair difference.

I had a quick look through that link belarki, seems sorbitol is not at all harmfull to your anus ;D

Cant find any stats on rectal bioavailibility of DHC but I'd say that you'd require a significantly lower amount of material then what one would normally use for oral dosing.

I'd be tempted to try 50ml myself (which doesnt seem like a horribly large amount of fluid to be going up there) and see what happens seeing as sorbitol doesnt seem to be harmfull I cant see why this wouldnt be feasible?

Considering that DHC is active in itself and its metabolite only makes up a tiny part of the overall high (and rectal administration will still go through your liver anyway) I'd say this method could well be very effective.

Oh boy, I brought the topic up so I guess I should be the guinea pig - but by all measn, if you want to give it a go I will give way :D I intend on being clean for a week or 2 anyway so it wouldn't be a while until I post my experience

Please report back in because this could turn out to be a bit of a winner and organ saver !!!!

 

[MrIbis]

^As soon as you shove all that sorbitol up your arse, you're gonna shit it straight out. Sorbitol is a laxative, a very very good laxative.. I can't believe you'd consider this idea...

See: Microlax - Suppository of Sorbitol for the fast and effective relief of hardened turd in the arsehole.

 

[What was it?]

^As soon as you shove all that sorbitol up your arse, you're gonna shit it straight out. Sorbitol is a laxative, a very very good laxative.. I can't believe you'd consider this idea...

See: Microlax - Suppository of Sorbitol for the fast and effective relief of hardened turd in the arsehole.

Ok so sorbitol up the dungy will make me go to the loo more than swallowed? also, I've never had the runs from Rikodeine as the DHC offsets the sorbitol.....i jsut get cramps and farts. Wouldnt the DHC rectally also offset the sorbitol, but spare me the stomach cramps?

 

[L3inad]

^As soon as you shove all that sorbitol up your arse, you're gonna shit it straight out. Sorbitol is a laxative, a very very good laxative.. I can't believe you'd consider this idea...

See: Microlax - Suppository of Sorbitol for the fast and effective relief of hardened turd in the arsehole.

Well yeah... sorbitol will make you go poo poo's. No ones trying to debate that mate.

Wouldnt it be in the intrests of harm reduction to be putting LESS sorbitol in your system, which with the higher bioavailibility of rectal administration would mean less sorbitol having to be injested?

Shit buddy, its going to come out one way or another, dunno about you but I'd rather be taking less of it and if its got to go anywhere I'd rather it not have to travel through my digestive system when its only going to end up in the rectum anyway?

Say what you want, but makes sense to me lol.

Plus, I'm still not sure if sorbitol will even be absorbed into the blood stream via rectal administration. In which case, if its only going to be shat out eventually anyway. May as well save your body the pain and put it where it belongs

 

[L3inad]

Ok so sorbitol up the dungy will make me go to the loo more than swallowed? also, I've never had the runs from Rikodeine as the DHC offsets the sorbitol.....i jsut get cramps and farts. Wouldnt the DHC rectally also offset the sorbitol, but spare me the stomach cramps?

Apologogies for double posting. Drunk and not in the mood to play with the edit button.

Theres nothing to say that sorbitol up the bum will make you go poo poo's moreso than swallowed. Sure its a laxative, but tbh I've got nothing against taking a dump.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Has to be done at some point, sure I'd give the DHC long enough to absorb but after that point I'd be more then happy to relieve my bowels of some sorbitol.

Via rectal administration, I wouldnt expect any stomache discomfort seeing as the sorbitol never makes it to your digestive tract.

To me it seems that being able to absorb the DHC, using less material (save some for a later date?), with a faster onset, shorter duration (DHC lasts ages, to long infact), no stress to your digestive tract and the added comfort of being able to pump it out at your leisure without having to wait for it to go through your sysetm and do all kinds of nasty stuff to your gut.

Well hey, sounds somewhat ideal does it not?

I'm in no way a fan of poking stuff up my pooper, but with the advantages listed above, I'm sure as hell keen to try it.

 

[What was it?]

Apologogies for double posting. Drunk and not in the mood to play with the edit button.

Theres nothing to say that sorbitol up the bum will make you go poo poo's moreso than swallowed. Sure its a laxative, but tbh I've got nothing against taking a dump.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Has to be done at some point, sure I'd give the DHC long enough to absorb but after that point I'd be more then happy to relieve my bowels of some sorbitol.

Via rectal administration, I wouldnt expect any stomache discomfort seeing as the sorbitol never makes it to your digestive tract.

To me it seems that being able to absorb the DHC, using less material (save some for a later date?), with a faster onset, shorter duration (DHC lasts ages, to long infact), no stress to your digestive tract and the added comfort of being able to pump it out at your leisure without having to wait for it to go through your sysetm and do all kinds of nasty stuff to your gut.

Well hey, sounds somewhat ideal does it not?

I'm in no way a fan of poking stuff up my pooper, but with the advantages listed above, I'm sure as hell keen to try it.

haha I love the positive attitude - well let us know how it goes and if you are all safe and you still absorb the DHC, then awesome. Start small I'd say in case it leads to 100% DHC bioavailability.....perhaps 50mls?

 

[drug_mentor]

I will be interested to hear the results if anyone plugs Rikodeine, although I don't know how plugging a cough syrup would go and I certainly wouldn't want to be the guinea pig for it.

 

[L3inad]

I will be interested to hear the results if anyone plugs Rikodeine, although I don't know how plugging a cough syrup would go and I certainly wouldn't want to be the guinea pig for it.

Hehe yeah. Plugging cough syrup would be well up there on my "disgusting things I do to get high" list, however I'm keen to give it a go.

Might attempt this tomorrow if I get the opportunity. I'll report back with results be it a happy side effect free high or a horrible pissing out my arse experience lol

@Whatwas it.

If you end up attempting this before me please do post your results, hey even if I do it first and you still want to attempt it, the more user reports from this ROA the better

 

[drug_mentor]

^ I can guarantee I wont be trying it before you mate. Haha. If it goes well for you I mgiht give it a go and if I do I will post my resuts here. I will go pretty far to catch a buzz, but a cough syrup enema *might* just be where I draw my line.

 

[bobbydarren]

I"m very interested in hearing experiences of anyone giving themselves a codeine extraction or riko enema. Maybe limit to 100ml of either, as you're not going to be able to keep much in your rectum without the sensation of needing to shit it out.

Very interested to hear if people have an uncontrollable need to shit (even with codeine extract & water) & thus the dose is wasted. I know with enemas the typical amount of liquid is 2 cups of liquid, and the need to shit comes on 10-20mins later. But 100ml is a small amount in comparison so hopefully you can control your shitting.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^it's really not all that uncomfortable having up to 100mL up the rectum. it's blown out of proportion by a lot of homophobes with too much pride; the only "uncomfortable" part is the urge you get in which you feel you need to vacuate when in fact you don't. you want it to absorb.

your sphincter adjusts to it quite easily.

 

[jahh]

Quick question,
If a substance is well absorbed (active) threw sublingual administration, would it also be absorbed(just as active) if administered rectally?

thanks

 

[belarki]

^ off the top of my head I'd say yes. If's it's well absorbed sublingually (blood vessels very close to the surface of the skin) then it's also liekly to be similarly well absorbed rectally.

^it's really not all that uncomfortable having up to 100mL up the rectum. it's blown out of proportion by a lot of homophobes with too much pride; the only "uncomfortable" part is the urge you get in which you feel you need to vacuate when in fact you don't. you want it to absorb.

your sphincter adjusts to it quite easily.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive sorbitol is one of those laxatives that works by causing more water to be drawn into the large intestines (osmotic?) which would compound the problem if you're already clenching those cheeks like a madman trying to keep the rikodeine in there?

 

[S.M.F.G]

Yeah it's kinda nice. I've used it a couple of times before, not in a while though but I remember liking it.

Was suggested to try this myself..... but holy fuck, lookin in the pharmacy today and there chasin like $[snip] for it.... would wanna b good for something

 

[bobbydarren]

^

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive sorbitol is one of those laxatives that works by causing more water to be drawn into the large intestines (osmotic?) which would compound the problem if you're already clenching those cheeks like a madman trying to keep the rikodeine in there?

I've quietly wondered if that's the reason why rikodeine lasts so long in the system, and lacks the strength of codeine. Codeine is in and out of the system within say 3-6 hours, but rikodeine is much slower and hangs around a lot longer, probably more like 16+ hours at recreational doses.

Sorbitol in large amounts (as I understand it) prevents (partially prevents) water being absorbed by the large intestines/colon). I don't know the pharmacology of DHC, as in if it's absorbed by the stomach or intestines or both, but if sorbitol stops or at least slows down the absorbtion or water in large intestines then my theory might explain why rikodeine becomes slow release when taken in large amounts. It's also a very smart idea by the manufacturer to prevent OD'ing and limiting the recreational effects of Rikodeine by slowing down the absorbtion to such an extent.

Really do need a person to sucessfully extract the DHC out of rikodeine or if easier, remove the sorbitol.

 

[What was it?]

the entire DHC/Rikodeine is a bizarre one indeed.....I've found DHC from Riko to be good for a baseline, but you need to add normal codeine to give you a proper body feel/warmth. DHC makes me feel smashed when the lights are out and I'm in bed....it's all spinning a bit (can't sleep well), but it doesnt give the M/H like warmth....it's somehow different. SO as I said above, good for a baseline buzz, but by itself a bit lacking....I think Drug Mentor agrees with this one, too.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I beleive sorbitol is one of those laxatives that works by causing more water to be drawn into the large intestines (osmotic?) which would compound the problem if you're already clenching those cheeks like a madman trying to keep the rikodeine in there?

without doing some quick reading i've no idea off the top of mjy head, mate. i was just speaking water solutions in general is all.

but if you say that's the case then, yeah, i wouldn't be plugging any:D

syrups are designed for oral consumption. just because it can be done doesn't mean it should.

 

[Jabberwocky]

not a bad drug i must say, nothing to add than that. i mixed with a small codeine cwe and my normal doses of tramadol and oxy with doxylamine succinate with the 200ml bottle that contains ~400mg DHC.

disclaimer - don't go combining such combos with little to no tolerance, i've been on pain management for years so have a tolerance,

 

[Mr. Squiggle!]

not a bad drug i must say, nothing to add than that. i mixed with a small codeine cwe and my normal doses of tramadol and oxy with doxylamine succinate with the 200ml bottle that contains ~400mg DHC.

disclaimer - don't go combining such combos with little to no tolerance, i've been on pain management for years so have a tolerance,

Dude, if you wish to get a high from Rikodeine, just go in to one chemist and walk up to the counter, with a note saying that your doctor had advised that you *cough* buy *cough* a bottle of 200 mls Rikodeine. Then if you want to get really fucked up, do the same *cough* thing at another cheap price pharmacy warehouse, and get *cough* some more of the same shit *cough*. That should be, according to Mathematics, some 760 mg of DHC (Dihydrocodeine)...and if you're worried about shitting out your intestines (which isn't a bad thing IMO), go and buy some Loperamide, which is according to memory, a synthetic form of an opioid-structured analogue, that helps you stop shitting. But be careful. Know your shit, i.e. if you have from time to time abused codeine OTC S3 products.

But for the sake of fuck people, don't do what Mr. leftwing did above. He has pain management issues, okay? So he's used to ovoids.