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Rikodeine/DHC questions

drug_mentor

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Hey guys, so yesterday I purchased Rikodeine for the first time and have a couple of questions.

I do 600mg of codeine once or twice a week, got 100mls of riko and figured I would try downing 50ml with a 480mg codeine dose. Well I snorted 1.5 points or so of decent to good quality cocaine a few hours before consuming my opiates aswell as a bit of bourbon to potentiate both the coke and opiates (I regularly drink with codeine).

Anyway, my dosing partner and I both noted considerably less effects than we normally would have from just 600mg codeine but 480mg plus 95mg of DHC should of surpassed 600mg of just codeine.

Neither of us had used cocaine on the same day as codeine, let alone just 2 or 3 hours beforehand, and cannot say if it was the blow or the DHC that reduced the effects. If anyone has experience using cocaine with codeine and/or DHC your knowledge would be appreciated.

Anyway I also wanted to hear peoples experiences mixing DHC and codeine or even just dose wise comparisons. I wondered if maybe the codeine inhibited the DHC or vice versa and thats why we didn't get strong effects? I mean it pretty much must be that or the cocaine blocking the high.

I procured another 100ml today (they seem to automatically give me that, asking for 200 next time) and I intend to consume the whole lot with a few whiskys and some bud, maybe a stick of xanax or two.

Should I expect stronger effects from 100ml with some xanax than 50ml with 480mg codeine? I really am hoping to get better effects than I did last night. I have read some promising stuff and really hope to get something out of it.

I have 166.4mg of codeine left over, would it be worthwhile extracting this to consume with my DHC? If so, would I consume them at the same time, the riko first or the codeine first or what? Logically I would think it was a good idea but I am unsure if one inhibits metabolism of the other.

I have found DXM a great potentiator of codeine, would it be fair to assume it would work well for DHC aswell?

Finally, I am out of antihistamines apart from phenergan and have no $ to buy more. If I dose phenergan before codeine it inhibits metabolism and reduces the effects for me, I get a strong histamine reaction so I prefer antihistamines I can take beforehand. I am of the understanding that while DHC does have active metabolites the main effects of the drug are caused by DHC itself, assuming this is true would that mean I would be safe to consume phenergan prior to DHC without reducing the effects?

Many thanks to anyone who managed to get through all that and many more to those that can help me out. I know it is a long winded post but I really want to make sure I get the best out of my riko tommorrow. Cheers!
 
So many questions...

DXM should work with DHC as well yes.

Codeine will not inhibit DHC, DHC does not need to be metabolized to be active, I posted about this recently in another thread here in AusDD.

Not sure why you didn't experience effects like you were expecting, was it good blow? Even if it was shouldn't have made that much of a difference...

If I remember correctly DHC is 1.5 times as potent as codeine, so 50mg of DHC is equal to around 75mg isn't it? I don't know my maths is terrible.

ETA: Also, in my experience DHC + codeine was awesome.
 
Yeah, look with any drug - best trial is to do it alone for the first time, without poly-using.

That way you can make an accurate judgement of just how a drug affects you personally as opposed to what it does in conjuction with other chemicals.
 
It was 50ml of riko, so around 95mg of DHC, I thought it was 1.5-2 times as potent as codeine so figured it would be a nice booster to my codeine buzz. I am pretty sure the coke was good but I am inexperienced with it, it definately wasn't amazing but it definately wasn't dog shit either.

I know its never technically smart to start off poly using substances but at the same time they aren't particularly strong substances and I am rather experienced with most of them and know my limits. I am not advocating or encouraging this behaviour but it is how I tend to operate, I don't have enough money to waste drugs by not using other shit to potentiate them.

Mr Blonde, when you combined codeine and DHC what doses were you using? Also, did you take them at the same time as I did last night or do you find there is a particular dosing schedule/order that works well?

Can anyone comment whether taking prometh beforehand would reduce DHC's effects? It probably doesn't matter now because if I use the codeine too I will have to wait regardless.

I have 100ml which is 190mg, ideally I would like to experience DHC without the presence of another opiate but as I can't afford more riko for now I may need to. I feel as though 190mg would not be adequate for someone who regularly uses 600-800mg doses of codeine. Next time around I will definately be trying 150-200ml without any codeine or anything.

Personally valium is my favourite benzo to combine with codeine, followed by ativan and then xanax. Was thinking I might try some xanax with it because it hits pretty hard and the valium I had last night didn't seem to increase the effects much.
 
.... Next time around I will definately be trying 150-200ml without any codeine or anything....

have some imodium handy just in case ;)

Also I know you know already d_m but it's best to put a disclaimer that one should be careful mixing depressants like that: opiates + alcohol + benzos is a recipe for disaster if you don't know your limits.

Stay safe kiddies!
 
Drug mentor: I can't remember what doses I used, I believe it was a decent amount of codeine plus around 100ml of rikodeine from a 200ml bottle. This was a while ago, when I didn't have enough codeine and I stumbled across the bottle in a medicine cabinet. It worked well.

Promethazine won't affect DHC, apart from adding sedation, reducing histamine reaction, but it does inhibit CYP2D6 which does metabolize codeine into morphine.
 
So I had another whack last night and have to say, I am not overly impressed with this drug but it still warrants further experimentation. I had run out of DXM and forgot to buy more though and since I usually use it with codeine I did wonder if this made significant difference.

Anyway, I had a very empty stomach and consumed my 100ml bottle of riko, measured out there was actually just over 110ml (SCORE! ;)). I had 13 panafen plus lying around and figured I would be aswell extracting them (13 panafen is equal to 166.4mg codeine).

Consumed the codeine 30 minutes after the DHC along with 1mg of ativan and a 5mg valium. I forgot to mention I had a double shot of VAT69 mixed with lemonade in the half hour prior to consuming the DHC.

Started to smoke marijuana 15 minutes after the codeine and benzos were consumed. Definately felt a nice opiate buzz but it is a lot different to codeine. I find DHC is actually quite stimulating where codeine is sedating for me, it is a longer lasting but definately more subtle buzz. I did not feel compelled to lie down on this substance but when I did it actually was quite nice, although not as nice as when on a good dose of codeine.

Happy to report that I did not get the runs from either of my rikodeine experiments so far, without even needing immodium. I must note, that at 100ml it is only 190mg of DHC which even adjusting the increased potency is not equal to my usual 600mg of codeine. I will have to try 200mls or so on its own to really determine what I think of DHC, hopefully 200ml wont give me the runs haha.

Overall I would say that DHC is an enjoyable drug, but I look for sedation in opiates and at the doses I have tried it doesn't really give me that. I could see it being fun to drink 100mls before work or school but I can't justify extra opiate purchases just for that. I would consider it a reasonably viable drug to substitute codeine with on occassion but considering it is quite a bit more expensive unless 200ml gets me pretty damn good I think I will stick to my CWE for the most part.

I may also try 100-150mls of riko followed by 600mg codeine 3 or 4 hours later as I believe this could be nice. Both my attempts I used codeine but at lower doses than usual (MUCH lower than usual last night) and I found at these doses DHC overpowers the codeine and it is probably quite pointless to combine the two. Perhaps high doses of both may yield better results.

It is also worth noting, I get a strong histamine reaction from codeine but this wasn't noted with DHC. I usually take restavit and/or travalcam before codeine and still itch like fuck. I only had 40mg promethazine which I was going to have to wait a while after dosing my codeine to take, I never ended up taking it because I barely itched. That is one big positive of DHC for me, but as I didn't really use an equivalent dose of DHC to my usual codeine dose it might not apply in higher doses.
 
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Just thought I would add to this, I ALWAYS get constipated the day after I use codeine, can never even force one out. Last night I never got the runs from the sorbitol but today I was not constipated in the slightest and I had a little codeine as well as DHC, although not much.

Wonder if DHC is less prone to cause constipation or if the sorbitol just helps negate the opiate constipation? Either way I was pleasantly surprised, sorry if this is too much info but I just find it kind of amusing there may be a benefit to the sorbitol content in rikodeine when it is obviously intended to be a deterrant.
 
^ Dihydrocodeine.

Drug mentor: I think I remember reading that codeine is more prone to causing severe constipation and bowel disorders, I know I have had a few nasty constipation experiences from being addicted to it.
 
^ Yeah it's Schedule V there isn't it? I expect DHC is probably controlled too then.

Oh well, you guys have bigger quanitities of drugs available and for cheaper then we do anyway. ;)
 
^ Yeah it's Schedule V there isn't it? I expect DHC is probably controlled too then.

Oh well, you guys have bigger quanitities of drugs available and for cheaper then we do anyway. ;)

Im not sure on the schedule Im thinkin its higher than five

yeah everyone wants to smuggle their drugs into america so yeah, that and meth labs
 
^ According to the Erowid T-Shirt, low quantity codeine containing products are Sch. V, but codeine by itself is Sch. VIII so similar to here I guess.
 
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