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Rikodeine/DHC questions

^ Maybe I just took too much temazepam... in fact to be honest that's probably the truth because I was pretty fucked up, I raided a medicine cabinet and found some old pain tablets (prescription codeine), then apparently walked to the pharmacy and managed to buy the rest that I needed for my tolerance, don't remember much after that except I came to and was missing a few hours of my life. :D
 
drug_mentor said:
^ Yeah dude I would definately take some temazepam, personally I rate temaz as a great benzo its just shit you only get 10mgs because it is a tiny dose. Hopefully the temaz with a few cones and a beer or two if your so inclined gives you a worthwhile, sedated buzz.

If your plugged up on codeine you shouldn't have any dramas, could always get some loperamide if you were overly concerned. Honestly for me I was in the toilet for 5 minutes, not much of a deterrant assuming the DHC gives you a decent high.

I am rather excited about my heroin, not sure what ROA to opt for. Been a good while since I had a play with it.
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Yeah thats what I meant by it being crappy, only got 30mg of it. Dosing up soonish, probably have a few cones and a couple of beers as you say. I love a few beers on opiates.

I've only ever shot Heroin, so I don't really know what the other ROA's are like. I'd be interested in snorting some to see how that goes.

Mr Blonde said:
^ I love temazepam, I think it goes great with opioids but make sure you do them roughly at the same time, once I was all benzo fucked already when I did the codeine and didn't really feel the codeine at all, just blacked out...

Whereas if I drink the codeine then pop a couple of temaz or diazepam, then I'm in heaven. :D
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Yeah I don't really feel like a benzo blackout haha. Although 30mg of temazepam isn't really enough to do that. But i'll dose them at the same time as you say.
 
Hmm. Good old Rikodeine. I reacquainted myself with it a couple of nights ago. 200mls obtained and downed no worries. About 1 hour to come on and when it did it provided a nice chilled but aware high. Pupils turned to pin pricks and remained that way well into the next day. I am normally averse to opiates, weed, or any drug that dulls the mind...(mine is already dull enough) and i am an absolute stim junkie..but i found this experience somewhat pleasant. Definitely good for a holiday away from the stimulants.

EXCEPT - the bloody sorbitol. MY GOD. DO NOT. I REPEAT DO NOT DOWN A WHOLE BOTTLE OF RIKKODEINE BEFORE GOING TO HANG OUT WITH A GIRL YOU'RE KEEN ON. hahhaaha. obviously not being anywhere near the comfortable stage of a relationship..farting whilst cuddling on the couch or in bed is a BIG NO NO. My insides nearly exploded that night..only extreme sphincter discipline prevented at least 6 tonnes of sorbitol induced gas embarrassingly escaping into the night. I sware that i burped out some of my farts. lol.

Needless to say my stomach and other internals weren't feeling the best for a few days.
 
I +1 you on the couple drinks with opiates, its heavenly. I have never shot heroin and I will not be opting doing that, I am thinking about plugging though.
 
I tend to keep my ass a one way street but have heard plugging provides a a bit of a rush somewhat similar to shooting. I was against shooting really, but when it came down to it and the needle was in front of me it's what I did lol.

I'm feeling very nice and chilled out now. Quite enjoying DHC.
 
^ I am not against shooting per say, infact there was a point I was keen on it. I have just realised it will affect some peoples opinion of me in a negative way and I don't want to do that.

Glad your DHC is travelling well, your having more luck than I did with my couple of experiments, if I was more experienced with heroin I might try a combo haha.
 
I think In all honesty I prefer codeine though.

I would not be enjoying this anywhere near as much if it wasn't for the temazepam I don't think.

And I know exactly what you mean. It's one thing that keeps me off using regularly is what people think of you. No one wants to be labelled as a junkie.
 
drug_mentor said:
^ I definately concur with the codeine preference, it would be interesting to try using DHC as a morning pick me up though.
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When I'am "sick" i think it is great first thing in the morning washed down with a Energy drink ..
 
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I had another whack at this stuff tonight. Told myself I would take a month off opies to drop tolerance and only made it 15 days. :(

In my earlier reports I kind of sell it short, because I was expecting it to be like codeine but they are really apples and oranges. As I stated earlier I find DHC is a much less sedating high than codeine, but all my previous uses I just chilled out anyway so it was kinda shit not being very sedating and all.

I dosed 200mL Riko (290mg DHC) and 30 panafen plus (384mg before losses) tonight half an hour after 1mg of ativan, 50mg restavit and 60mg DXM. I have been smoking pot all day, previously had 30mg diazepam and another mg of ativan. This drug is just plain not fucking sedating.

BUT, I did just have a good D&M with my mum and it is a drug I could actually see myself using in social situations. I literally chewed her ear off for hours and was a lot more open and honest about certain things than I normally would of been, time seems to have flown.

The only opiate I have ever felt stimulating was insufflated oxy, but I would actually say that I find dihydrocodeine more stimulating. I might try downing some before school, its just put me in such a fantastic mood and I feel rather alert, plus it still has that lovely warm opioid body high.

The whole reason I opted for DHC today after writing it off some time ago was te thought maybe lower tolerance would improve it, well that and the fact codeine is doing jack all to me nowadays even in >gram doses.

I really think this drug could have some potential for small social gatherings or passing by some time at work or school. (Not that I advocate being intoxicated at either establishment ;))
 
drug_mentor said:
I dosed 200mL Riko (290mg DHC) and 30 panafen plus (384mg before losses) tonight half an hour after 1mg of ativan, 50mg restavit and 60mg DXM.
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um if Riko has 19mg of dihydrocodeine tartrate per 10ml and you drank 200mls then you took 380mg of DHC 8o

I shudder to think about your large intestines at this moment in time.

Personally to reduce the effect of the sorbital i would recommend its perhaps better to have a much lower dose, say 60ml or 114mg of DHC whilst potentiating with a few beers and supplementing with some codeine phosphate. I'd suggest the beer no matter what for the fact it removes very quickly that sickening strawberry taste from ones mouth.

but yes dihydrocodeine tartrate seems to be simulating and far less drowsy then its cousin codeine phosphate.

It reminds me of the effect you get drinking poppy seed tea (i almost want to dry retch remembering how that stuff smelled).
 
^My PSTs were quite nice and didn't smell bad at all...

Considering it's meant to taste vile, our method tasted quite nice, with only the addition of lemonade to the mix :)
 
Haha yeah I was pretty fucked when I wrote that post, dunno how I got my maths so wrong. Funny thing chugs, I never got any effect from the sorbitol. It is only really one time out of the handful I used Riko where I had to sit on the toilet at all, and it was only for a short amount of time.

Everytime I use riko I always make sure I have been to the toilet not long before drinking it. I also always extract a packet of codeine (240-380mg basically, depending on formulation and pack size) and consume my CWE 20-30 minutes before drinking the riko. There are two reasons for this, the obvious one is that I am getting an additional dose of opiates therefore increasing my high. The other reason for this is I figure by dosing my codeine slightly earlier than the Riko it will kick in before the Riko and as opiates cause constipation it should (and seems to in my case) stop the sorbitol from having too profound an effect.

There is obviously the possibility that I am just less sensitive to sorbitols laxative effects than most people, but worst case scenario somebody more sensitive could always take some loperamide, you might even be one of the lucky few who reports effects from that and end up with a sick opiate high.

Upon inspection of my benzo collection, it seems I ate rather a lot on my last DHC adventure, which likely accounts for my greatly improved experience. I definately plan to experiment with this stuff further, the only real problem is the cost. I imagine 400mLs with a brick or two would go down really well, but at that quantity the cost is approaching what it would cost me for a hit of heroin, so I am not entirely convinced it is worth it yet.

Has anyone consumed a reasonably large dose of this stuff? I am talking like 350-400mLs or more. I would be interested to know if its effects become more sedating in nature at larger doses, and how the buzz compares to other opiates. For all I know a strong effect from this stuff may trump heroin, although at this point I find that notion highly unlikely.
 
Alrighty, tonight will be my first experiment using DHC without combining it with codeine, but I have some loperamide to block myself up beforehand. I am going to be consuming 400mLs of Rikodeine which adds up to 760mg of dihydrocodeine. If this doesn't give me a hell of a good buzz I will likely be writing this product off as not very recreational.

I really can't find much on doses this large, and am certainly hoping it yields good results. I have elected to use promethazine as my chosen antihistamine tonight, but as it inhibits CYP2D6 which is responsible for converting a very small amount of DHC to hydromorphone I will put off taking it as long as I can. The amount converted to hydromorphone is so small it is not considered to be responsible for any significant % of DHC's active effects. I am wondering though, since I can't find anything on dosing this high, and there is no 'ceiling' for DHC, if maybe a ridiculous dose like this could cause a reasonable amount of hydromorphone to be converted.

I will post back with my results tommorrow anyway, so wish me luck.

I would like to stress, I have a significant opiate tolerance, that is the only reason I am personally dosing so high. This is quite a large dose of dihydrocodeine and could well kill a less tolerant person. I think even one 200mL bottle would be far too much for an opiate naive person.

DO NOT TAKE MY PERSONAL DOSE AS A GUIDELINE, IT MAY WELL KILL YOU! IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TOLERANCE IT IS MY PERSONAL GUARANTEE THAT YOUR BEST CASE SCENARIO FROM COPYING A TOLERANT PERSONS OPIOID DOSE IS BECOMING VERY ILL FOR SEVERAL HOURS!
 
^Dude.

Be warned, whilst you might get blocked up - you will get a stomach ache man! It's not fun.

I haven't gone down the road of using riko again for a while. The riko blocked me up, so i got normal constipation stomach aches that come with needing to use the loo. a few hours later i could shit, and had to get up every 20 mins to use the dunny.

not fun.

be warned bud.
 
^ Man I am not dicksizing here, who the fuck is impressed with sorbitol consumption anyway haha, but the last time I drank 200mLs of this shit less than a week ago I got ZERO stomach ache, I aint sayin' that will be the case tonight, but if one bottle gave me no nausea how bad could 2 be?

I will make sure to do some evacuating before I consume such a ridiculous amount of sorbitol anyway, so there should be no major issues. I will report back tommorrow, hopefully having had a better experience than you anticipate. I got promethazine as well, which is good for nausea, so hopefully any would be nausea issues are solved with the addition of that.

I also noticed DHC actually has shocking oral BA% compared to codeine, so I will be sure to neck a few mylanta or something to improve that slightly.
 
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