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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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k.kat said:
How trippy is AMT compared to LSD or MUSHIES,
I read a post the other day but can't find it now, but it said something about if a AMT trip goes bad there is no way out of it, so would it be like a bad LSD or MUSHIES trip.
Also read that its quite like MDMA but better which is more why i want to try it
So is it along the same line as if you took LSD & MDMA at the same time,
im thinking if its quite like MDMA more than TRIPS why would it turn into a bad trip surely the MDMA side would keep the chance of a bad trip away,
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I'm afraid the only way you can tell how trippy it is is to try it yourself. Some people get next to no psychedelic elements with it while others get a notable amount.

However, overall it's a lot more forgiving than LSD in terms of being able to have a 'bad trip'.

It's nothing like LSD or mushies for me personally. I find it just like MDMA/6-APB, except it takes longer to come up and can make me feel a little nauseous on the come up for a short time.
 
ugh1979 said:
I'm afraid the only way you can tell how trippy it is is to try it yourself. Some people get next to no psychedelic elements with it while others get a notable amount.

However, overall it's a lot more forgiving than LSD in terms of being able to have a 'bad trip'.

It's nothing like LSD or mushies for me personally. I find it just like MDMA/6-APB, except it takes longer to come up and can make me feel a little nauseous on the come up for a short time.
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Thanks ugh,
a cross between MDMA & 6APB sounds really good to me, MDMA is my drug & i really enjoyed 2 pellets DD of 6-APB, =D


ive decided to take my Methoxetamine just now & save the AMT till friday
i read that it goes off quickly if not stored properly
But i have no drying agents to put in the bag, its in its sealy bag sealed then in another sealy bag sealed and thats in the padded envelope/jiffy bag it came in and is in a dark cupboard,
will it still be okay by friday
 
^Go try on a bag of shoes and grab yourself some desiccants, then on your way home buy some Jack's beef jerky for an oxygen absorber. In any case, it'll be fine for that long, I'm sure. But if you can't store your chems in a freezer at least have them in a bag, inside another ziplock with the two absorbers in it.
 
k.kat said:
How trippy is AMT compared to LSD or MUSHIES,
I read a post the other day but can't find it now, but it said something about if a AMT trip goes bad there is no way out of it, so would it be like a bad LSD or MUSHIES trip.
Also read that its quite like MDMA but better which is more why i want to try it
So is it along the same line as if you took LSD & MDMA at the same time,
im thinking if its quite like MDMA more than TRIPS why would it turn into a bad trip surely the MDMA side would keep the chance of a bad trip away,
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This varies. Some people like myself experience a full-blown candyflip like experience with intense euphoria that is different from MDMA but just as nice in the body.

Others just get the euphoria no matter what dose they take - they never have visuals. For me to see visuals, it took 50mg... and the body load at that dose was so high that I was not feeling great most of the time.

As far as terminating AMT. Its not possible. I tried Xanax, Klonopin, and phenibut and none of them slowed it down - in fact, they made it stronger. However, I've heard that two 15mg mirtazapine ONLY WHEN COMING DOWN will put you out like a light or if you're having a really nasty trip, my friends always kept trazodone on hand. Pop 400mg and you're either a lot more relaxed or you're comatose.
 
psood0nym said:
^Go try on a bag of shoes and grab yourself some desiccants, then on your way home buy some Jack's beef jerky for an oxygen absorber. In any case, it'll be fine for that long, I'm sure. But if you can't store your chems in a freezer at least have them in a bag, inside another ziplock with the two absorbers in it.
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so i could put it in the freezer in the bags the way it is without desiccants & oxygen absorbers, even though the freezer is wet,
see ive no money left this week to go buy beef jerky or anything as ive spent it all on drugs now, lol

MagickalKat777 said:
This varies. Some people like myself experience a full-blown candyflip like experience with intense euphoria that is different from MDMA but just as nice in the body.

Others just get the euphoria no matter what dose they take - they never have visuals. For me to see visuals, it took 50mg... and the body load at that dose was so high that I was not feeling great most of the time.

As far as terminating AMT. Its not possible. I tried Xanax, Klonopin, and phenibut and none of them slowed it down - in fact, they made it stronger. However, I've heard that two 15mg mirtazapine ONLY WHEN COMING DOWN will put you out like a light or if you're having a really nasty trip, my friends always kept trazodone on hand. Pop 400mg and you're either a lot more relaxed or you're comatose.
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i take it by candyflip you mean E & LSD at same time, ive done that & enjoy that,
just i used to love & do lots of tripping but have had a few bad trips & its put me of tripping & havent tripped since about 1999 when i had a bad one,

i love E and its been my fav drug since 1988 but cant find real ones
so got into mephedrone , these days jolly & did enjoy 6-apb when i had 2,
i enjoyed the visuals with 6-apb,

mirtrazapine i do have somewhere so thats good ,
hopefully im worrying for nothing though as i do love intense euphoria.

i think i should go pick some mushies,lol
 
^Your worrying too much. I know it is said to degrade quite quickly but not by next friday. Just put the bag in a drawer it will be fine.
 
I dont think it will degrade that quickly. I had some stored at roomtemp for several months, didnt notice any significant potency drop. Just keep it sealed and away from light and excess heat.
 
what a wonderful chemical... just enjoying the afterglow after a trip last night... ~30mg. was my first time on it, and i have to say the body load is something to consider, but not as bad as it was with 2c-e for me.

what i found special about it was that i got quite interesting visuals even at such a presumably low dose (freebase). my favourite was sitting in a dark room with a light projecting the shadow of my hands on the wall and looking at the patterns forming... just incredible

also this is the first chemical where i feel like my memory has been distorted during the trip a little bit, losing track of time, sometimes playing events in reverse or waking up in a position i did not remember how i had gotten into. it might have been a more severe effect of time distortion. this had me worried a bit because at the beginning of the trip i had been with company (unknowing) and didnt want to appear like i was tripping. during the time spent with them it felt like i was in control. slow, but awake, a bit like the lazyness one gets after alcohol.

i just wish i could remember better. but so far am enjoying the feelings this rc gave me. will definetly try it again, probably at a lower dose to benefit more from the insights this chemical promises.

but has anyone else had these sort of memory play happen to them?
 
Gah! Cannot figure out my starting dose for this. Was planning on 25mg then adding up to another 25 later dependent on how it was going, but recent reports suggest this might be an underdose....
 
JedTheHumanoid said:
Gah! Cannot figure out my starting dose for this. Was planning on 25mg then adding up to another 25 later dependent on how it was going, but recent reports suggest this might be an underdose....
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Me and the missus started on around 26-28mg each and neither of us felt much aftr 3 hours so we had what was left stuck to the bag - hard to tell how much as i had to turn the bag inside out and wash it in a small glass of water to make a solution but maybe around another 10 mg each and although we were both high to a certain extent we were both very mongy and lazy and just sat up all night chatting and consuning alcohol. We will definitly be doing 40mg the next time as a. Starting dose then maybe 10 - 15mg to top up later. We both mannaged some sleep the next day and there wasnt much of a comedown apart from feeling tired. Peple seem to find this stuff different at different doses so 25mg is probably a wise starting dose
 
JedTheHumanoid said:
Thanks Mullered, I think you are right... 25mg to start it is...
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No worries Jed. From our experience i would say 25mg is a safe starting dose, if your experienced with RC's then you will probably have no problems pushing it up to 30 maybe 35mg, but if your unsure then i would say stick to 25 the first time as a tester then you should be better placed to work out your ideal dose for your second time. As with all these RC's I guess its better tobe safe than sorry
 
I've said this in one of the RC threads. But is it just me or does having aMT referred to as an 'RC' annoy anybody else?

It's not an RC anymore than LSD is an RC. Can we please stop referring to it as such, I'm not asking this to be a snob...just to keep it legal for a little bit longer!
 
InternetMuse said:
I've said this in one of the RC threads. But is it just me or does having aMT referred to as an 'RC' annoy anybody else?

It's not an RC anymore than LSD is an RC. Can we please stop referring to it as such, I'm not asking this to be a snob...just to keep it legal for a little bit longer!
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Really? Because aMT has a very short history of usage in humans... isn't being investigated as a drug for human consumption... and is largely unknown as far as its effects short and longterm... sounds like a research chemical to me.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Really? Because aMT has a very short history of usage in humans... isn't being investigated as a drug for human consumption... and is largely unknown as far as its effects short and longterm... sounds like a research chemical to me.
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I say this for three main reasons:

1) It's only 15-odd years younger than LSD and has a similar amount of history used in therapeutic environments, although less so when we take into account things like MKULTRA (which we know little about the results). If you are willing to also classify LSD as an RC than fair enough.

2) It's been used and 'abused' for 40 years - I think we know a hell of a lot more about it at least experientially than we do substances like Meph, 6-A**, 5i** etc. etc. It also had to go through quite a series of tests on humans and other research before being sold as an anti-depressant.

3) Keeping it off the radar of those looking for the next 'RC' can only be a good thing, no? All the RC threads are now filled with 'buy aMT' = scheduled.

Edit: Having said all that, Erowid classifies is as a Research Chemical so I guess I have to fold to higher authorities. But still...
 
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^^^ AET was purchased in bulk from a chemical company and sold as MDMA here in Colorado for years until the DEA brought up a court case, lost, so scheduled it and brought the guy to court again.

AMT has been in pills in Colorado in the past. Very dangerous.
 
@ MagickalKat777
hi
is Trazodone available without prescription, as my mirtazapine are low dose only 5mg
so low they took about 6 months to work,
 
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