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4-Fluoroamphetamine

how do you guys think this compares to MDMA in terms of neurotoxicity? also, what is the duration and the severity of the comedown from 4-FA?
 
Lazyscience said:
how do you guys think this compares to MDMA in terms of neurotoxicity? also, what is the duration and the severity of the comedown from 4-FA?
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And i would add question about blue tuesdays - as some people here were comparing it to mdma i wonder whether you get similar depression afterwards. thks.
As for neurotoxicity - wiki states its DARI plus mild seretonin releaser and neurotoxicity should be not so bad. But input of somebody more knowledgeable would be greatly appreciated. From reports here it seems the come down is easier on body than normal amph and it feels cleaner than meph. Personally i dont have any experience with this substance yet, but have high hopes and feel very excited about trying it next weekend. Will post my thoughts on it then.
 
Is this stuff still legal in the uk are the legal high shops selling it and iv seen someone mention toot saying its just like pure meph is this true i would love to try it if so all the meph round here is cut to fuck a full g dont even really do owt i wish it was still legal i enjoyed it while there was the mdma drought
 
Fucking hell, Dean. Do you pause for breath son? ;) This stuff has never been legal. No idea about toot.
 
I just received a small quantity of 4-FA which concerns me... The color is yellowish, almost the same as that of post-it notes. That's not my main problem, the smell is!
It's extremely smelly! I would describe the smell as perfume mixed with coal-tar. Even the smallest amount mixed in water smells 8) It also tastes a little bit like it smells.
This implies impurities... the smell could've gotten worse after wrong storage... but still I find it HORRIBLE!

I've read a few recent posts mentioning the same problem, but I haven't found any further reports... Any thoughts?

PS: This batch comes from a legit supplier.
 
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I've been doing 4-FA pretty much regularly for the past couple of years and never had a batch that didn't smell up the whole room, if I open the bag you can smell it from metres away, really, really pungent intense nasty smell.

I've tried it from at least three different sources so I think the problem is at the origin.

As for comedowns for me it depends on the dosage and on what other drugs/supplements I might take afterwards, for instance if I have a lot of kratom, omega 3 and some 5-htp and a couple of bananas, the down is almost non-existant I just feel drained.

However I had some comedowns that rival the harshest pill comedown I ever had, same rules apply really, moderate your alcohol intake, rehydrate and don't be silly with the doses.
 
Thank you for the reply! My previous experiences were with white/odorless compounds...

This stuff makes me nauseous just by smelling it... it's like sitting in the train next to some grandma who put way too much perfume on herself, multiply that by 10 =D

Hangovers were almost non-existent in my previous experiences, although comedowns could be a bit harsh... especially the getting to sleep part. Limiting the alcohol intake is definitely a life-saver! :)
 
after the 3rd or 4th time of using it, i've found the comedown to be on par with mdma.. which is a shame.. but i've abused my brain so much over the last 10 years, most things give me proper comedowns.

no problems with smell from my supplier at all.
 
Mine only had a mild smell, I could smell it from about a foot away and it was a very light brown in colour. It was also really ridiculously fluffy and light, 150mg looked more like 300. I found it to feel really clean and actually it had that dreamy magical quality to it that my first few MDMA experiences had.
 
Xamkou said:
Do you get this guys from street dealers?
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Nope. From online vedor.

Mine is slight yellowish, too and has a certain smell, I cannot define.

Just ingested ca.110 mg after trying to insufflate a little line, but without succeding( 1. burns like:! which was ok, but not bearable with lager quantities 2. I didn't feel anything)

Tried to solve it in grapejuice( you cannot taste the 4-Fa, because the juice is way too sweet ;)) and drank it ca. 50min ago on a slight full stomach (ate 4 hours go?)

It's coming and it's already quite there, will listening to music now %)
 
Did a gram between wednesday and thursday as I was home sick from work and needed some way to entertain myself, today I felt a massive comedown blues, worse than with MDMA, I was completely untreatable at work, antisocial, impulsive, irritable, avoided contact and didn't even go get coffee with this girl I fancy, actually been a twat to her.

This used to happen a lot to me back in MDMA days, now I'm self-medicating with Kratom, hopefully I'll get in a better mood before going out tonight.

I've noticed this happens consistently whenever I take recreational doses (around half a g in a sesh), I think from now I'm gonna try to stick to small therapeutic doses for ADD, like no more than 50 mgs over a few hours to improve focus and productivity.
 
XFR said:
I just received a small quantity of 4-FA which concerns me... The color is yellowish, almost the same as that of post-it notes. That's not my main problem, the smell is!
It's extremely smelly! I would describe the smell as perfume mixed with coal-tar. Even the smallest amount mixed in water smells 8) It also tastes a little bit like it smells.
This implies impurities... the smell could've gotten worse after wrong storage... but still I find it HORRIBLE!

I've read a few recent posts mentioning the same problem, but I haven't found any further reports... Any thoughts?

PS: This batch comes from a legit supplier.
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Id try and return it and get a refund, all the 4FA ive had doesnt really smell that much, tastes like shit, but smelly, no, might be okay, its up to you, its probably going to make you puke if you drop it.
 
androoo said:
after the 3rd or 4th time of using it, i've found the comedown to be on par with mdma.. which is a shame.. but i've abused my brain so much over the last 10 years, most things give me proper comedowns.

no problems with smell from my supplier at all.
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Dont notice comedowns from this stuff particularly
 
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