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The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

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MagickalKat777 said:
Me neither and I've done MORE than my fair share of AMT... 2g in 3 months is a pretty sizable amount I'd say... Never suffered anything NEAR serotonin syndrome and AMT was the only drug I DIDN'T get addicted to... DXM and 5-MeO-AMT on the other hand... :!
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2 grams in 3 months?

I've had just over half a 100mg vial sat in a dark, cool place for several months. I'm waiting for a special occasion, given that AMT is such a wonderful substance.

I'm guessing that set and setting don't generally come into your equation when deciding whether or not to trip on strong, day-long hallucinogenics Kat?

Seriously - it seems as if its a case of 'If I can afford it, I'll fucking do it...and often too' for you.

Seems reminiscent of the posts from ketamine users that do bumps whilst clubbing but have often never given themselves a decent shot at experiencing a full blown k-hole in a comfortable, controlled environment.

I cant comment on potential for physical damage, resulting from your frequency of usage but the risk of losing the beauty of this substance is a very real concern.
 
That was in 2003. I was young and stupid. And I didn't take ALL of it by myself - I shared it with friends. But I definitely did consume quite a bit.

Back then, I had to be fucked up all the time because I hated being sober. I hated being sober so much that I would take anything and everything to make sure I wasn't sober. If you think my AMT binges were bad, you should have seen my 5-MeO-AMT binges... literally days on end of constantly redosing and just tripping my ass off for days... Even would go to work fucked up on it, open the store, make the dough, make the sauce, get the register ready, and continue to trip all throughout the day.

I've gotten a lot wiser in my chem usage since I have gotten older. In fact I haven't tripped in about 3 years and I haven't rolled in 2.
 
Yerg said:
aMT acts as an MAO inhibitor, which means it prevents an enzyme from doing what it normally does. No, you can't drink on aMT, any combinations should be well-researched and cautiously approached.

With regards to the "new meph" thing, I reckon that not being able to drink or eat kebabs whilst on it would put a lot of people off it. Or, they'd all just end up in A&E.
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I've always drank on it, as has everyone I know, without issue, but everyone is different so it's up to the individual to make the decision seeing as AMT is very mild MAOI so doesn't really have the dietary restrictions like full blown MAOI's do. However, to be safe, mature cheeses and red wine should still be avoided since they are high in tyramine.
 
SpellmanT7 said:
2 grams in 3 months?

I've had just over half a 100mg vial sat in a dark, cool place for several months. I'm waiting for a special occasion, given that AMT is such a wonderful substance.

I'm guessing that set and setting don't generally come into your equation when deciding whether or not to trip on strong, day-long hallucinogenics Kat?

Seriously - it seems as if its a case of 'If I can afford it, I'll fucking do it...and often too' for you.

Seems reminiscent of the posts from ketamine users that do bumps whilst clubbing but have often never given themselves a decent shot at experiencing a full blown k-hole in a comfortable, controlled environment.

I cant comment on potential for physical damage, resulting from your frequency of usage but the risk of losing the beauty of this substance is a very real concern.
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I hear what you are saying but I don't see AMT as any different from MDMA in how often it can be taken. 500mg every second weekend works fine for me. I did notice 500mg every weekend was beginning to dull the effect a little bit so I'm taking longer rests where possible.

AMT isn't a day long hallucinogen for me. It's a ~5 hour MDMA like euphoria drug which is best suited to parties. If I'm looking for a day long hallucinogenic trip i'll take something else and do it under the correct circumstances/setting.

My point is, AMT has a very different effect on different people so it can have very different uses.

Also, the up to week+ long after effects of AMT are great (i.e. it's anti-depressant property) so using every 2 weeks for me means the best of both worlds.

I'd be very very surprised if there was any damage being done considering it's history and family. It appears to me to be a bit of a wonder drug.
 
^^ You must have this chemical confused with something else. 500mg would most likely kill you. I had severe negative consequences from between 160 and 200mg... and I never built any form of a tolerance to it.

Also, it doesn't last ~5 hours... The plateau is more like 8-10 hours... Something is wrong here.
 
First time experienced

I'm new here but I thought I'd post my two cents.
So I finally got around to dipping into my 300mg yesterday. I started with 10-15mg at 3pm, then redosed every couple of hours until I'd taken maybe 40mg by midnight. The come up seems really unpleasant and physical, serious anxiety but felt mainly as a tight feeling in the stomach/chest with some serious nausea. After an hour or two though that completely disappeared and a very smooth, speedy rush came on, relaxing into (t+5-8hrs) a very MDMA like feeling, but not pushy or fake as MDMA can feel. All in all, a wonderful experience, moderate euphoria throughout, with mild but very pleasant OEVs later on in the evening.
But...
Its now t+18, mid morning, and I am having a difficult come down (not as bad as the down time after oral opium, but close). I am feeling very strung out, my brain is exhausted, but I am not going to sleep until seemingly this evening, I have a nasty headache, and my legs feel restless and sore. Ugh. Benzos are a must for next time. Still, would definitely do it over again =D

PS How long until I am no longer on an MAOI and can do as I please with regard to chianti, fava beans, other serotonergic drugs etc? I cant seem to find half life figures for amt.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
^^ You must have this chemical confused with something else. 500mg would most likely kill you. I had severe negative consequences from between 160 and 200mg... and I never built any form of a tolerance to it.

Also, it doesn't last ~5 hours... The plateau is more like 8-10 hours... Something is wrong here.
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No I don't have it mixed up.

I wasn't talking about taking 500mg at once! I'm talking about over the course of a weekend.

It does last ~5 hours for me, at a 50mg dose, then I redose. This may well be due to the HCL that is currently in the UK being weaker than the freebase you might be used to though.

As I say though, bear in mind that AMT has very different effects on different people. If you read any of the AMT threads on BL you should know that.
 
Hang on... it lasts you 5 hours, you dose 10 times, so you trip for 50 hours every weekend? That's hardcore, there's only 48 hours in a weekend! When do you sleep?
 
Yerg said:
Hang on... it lasts you 5 hours, you dose 10 times, so you trip for 50 hours every weekend? That's hardcore, there's only 48 hours in a weekend! When do you sleep?
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Actually Friday night to Monday night sessions aren't unheard of round my way. Doing the 72hours is pretty hardcore though and certainly not a weekly occurrence. 48 hours sessions are more frequent but again, not every single weekend.

One thing I really like about AMT is that unlike MDMA, which loses a lot of it's effects after a day or so on it for me, AMT can keep going strong for at least 2 days.

I just sleep for 24hours when I'm done after a 2 or 3 day session and that's me fine when I wake up.
 
ugh1979 said:
Rich? I wish! 500mg isn't expensive at all in my country. In fact AMT works out as one of the cheapest drugs around for effect/longevity.
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Seriously? I've looked at all the sites and its definitely not cheap... Price discussion obviously isn't allowed but I could get E, K, and alcohol and party all weekend for how much it costs.

Anyway, be careful. Nobody knows the long term consequences of using it like that - I thought I was bad with my usage but I never had more than 250mg in a 48-72 hour period...
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Seriously? I've looked at all the sites and its definitely not cheap... Price discussion obviously isn't allowed but I could get E, K, and alcohol and party all weekend for how much it costs.
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No chance I could. Not anywhere near in fact. I'd have to spend at least at least triple. Say 24 beers, 5 E's and 1g of Ket would last a day (as long as the E's are good) but pushing for another day would generally require the same again.

Anyway, be careful. Nobody knows the long term consequences of using it like that - I thought I was bad with my usage but I never had more than 250mg in a 48-72 hour period...
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I'm happy with the historical use of AMT and knowledge of long term effects of drugs that are similar to it, and in it's family, to consider it safe at those doses.

I'm hoping to get some freebase AMT at some point though so maybe I can half my overall weekend dose, making it even better and cheaper. :)
 
Very tempted. Shame it is HCI and not Freebase that seems to be doing the rounds, but tempted all the same.
 
^HCl=hydrochloride. HCI=?
Tryptamines are fairly unstable, I imagine that the hydrochloride will degrade considerably slower than the freebase (also, the freebase tends to smell of...well...poo). I'm happier with the salt, the loss in potency is worthwhile IMO.
 
ugh1979 said:
I've always drank on it, as has everyone I know, without issue, but everyone is different so it's up to the individual to make the decision seeing as AMT is very mild MAOI so doesn't really have the dietary restrictions like full blown MAOI's do. However, to be safe, mature cheeses and red wine should still be avoided since they are high in tyramine.
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I drink on most things. Cant help it. I love my beer 8o
 
I recently obtained some AMT from a friend. The package is sealed and labelled AMT but I'm paranoid about it being a mistakingly labelled package of 5-MeO-AMT. So besides taking a small test dose is there any way I can be sure it is actually AMT?
 
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