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sometimes I really wish I could really share with some of ya'll just how unglamorous, painful, and utterly final death really is.
the whole business of dying is just plain ugly.... painful. there's no such thing as a smooth transition, and all for what?

the vast majority of prisons aren't made of stone & steel, they're made of the limitations which are self-imposed. and even with the ones made of concrete, we still have control over what will put us there.
except for when time simply runs out, everything comes down to choice.

solitude is loneliness if one focuses on what one lacks, not on what one is.... and depending on POV, it can also be enlightenment.
or... just because I'm lonely, it doesn't mean I'm alone. Though all pain is very real, it's not what defines me.

I am I, nothing else is.

that, and the Nietzschian expression; "nothing is true, everything is permitted", has let me burn through all the horrible shit that's happened in my life.....

it's rather ironic to me that being a solipsistic nihilist has kept me going..... because suicide is the one choice that ends all further possibilty and experience.
 
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stay........

Thank you, all <3

I need love. I try, and the constant rejection is too much to bear. It is a cycle. I try for some time, then resort to dope to heal my emotional wounds. I just feel like something bad is about to happen.

On the positive side, no more lonliness, withdrawals, jails....

It is not bad. Could be an adventure. I do not know.

this too shall pass. man I have read your posts for over a year now-first as a lurker,then because of people like you I decided to join,do what I could,share my pain,unburden myself and hopefully save a life. I used to frequent this thread.I had an alert sent to my phone whenever anyone posted in this thread and I would rush to the computer,if I could or check the thread ASAP. Last november my heart was broken.A 33 year old gay woman with a long history of failed relationships and it was this break-up that was going to do me in. I became introverted,extremely dangerous in my use.I quit caring about myself to the point that I was shooting really dangerous pills with dull,dirty needles.I developed an abscess that I tried to lance and ended up with a fucking staph infection-MRSA staph-dead black flesh a half an inch into my forearm that took ten days of going to an urgent care clinic where they cut the dead flesh from my arm with nothing for the pain. That shit was all my fault and I deserved every ounce of pain. but I also deserved to beat the beast within and not allow a broken heart to do me in.I have been there. I live with my parents-I am almost 34-because of my addiction. I am not proud but I am not ashamed. You cannot say how another person will react. My parents have been through this shit with me for more than half my life.My1st suicide attempt as at 15,since then there have been 5 more. A near fatal car accident that the doctors told my parents I would not live through the first night. I have seen what death does to people although I have never had anyone close to me die. But I have seen the pain that I would have left behind had I succeeded any of those times. you don't want that,I promise.I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. sure we all have a right to die,but do we have the right to destroy other lives in the wake of our sadness?For me that answer is no. I hope the answer for you will be the same.Everything comes to an end,my friend.Good times AND the BAD. you have no idea who is just around the corner-a stranger whose life you can have a positive impact on. Like me. Dude,I've been hold up in my bedroom,not answering the phone or texts,staying away from Bluelight because I was addicted to the emotional pain and I knew people here care and that I would feel better and come back to the land of the living.I logged on tonight looking for someone to make me feel loved-instead I found you,and you reminded me that there are people here that I care for deeply.People I have yet to meet. People whom I have helped-and people who might slip away because i have had my head too far up my own ass to think about what good I might do in the life of someone else.someone like you.I let you down and I am sorry. But if you stay,I will be your friend.I will let you pour your soul out.I will help you the best I can. you reminded me tonight of my gifts in this life-one of them being the ability to help those in pain bc I have walked down the same lonely path that they find themselves currently lost.
you need love and i have a heart so big that i need more people to give it to. death is final-regardless of your beliefs. but life,life is full of wondrous possibilities,friends you never thought you would find and a love that you were sure would never find you. I know your pain and I have seen the consequences that a final exit creates. I know you have courage-perseverance-strength of heart,of mind of soul. Stay here with us. Stay here with me. Give me a chance to prove to you that all I have said is truth.I believe in you. All I am asking is you take a chance and believe in yourself.

I eagerly await your reply as I send much love and healing,peaceful energy to you.Stay awhile and be my friend. I would consider it a great honor.
I know it hurts.But it won't hurt forever.

Much Peace and Love to you,Dear Jack..................
..................your friend, skillz<3
 
sometimes I really wish I could really share with some of ya'll just how unglamorous, painful, and utterly final death really is.
the whole business of dying is just plain ugly.... painful. there's no such thing as a smooth transition, and all for what?

the vast majority of prisons aren't made of stone & steel, they're made of the limitations which are self-imposed. and even with the ones made of concrete, we still have control over what will put us there.
except for when time simply runs out, everything comes down to choice.

solitude is loneliness if one focuses on what one lacks, not on what one is.... and depending on POV, it can also be enlightenment.
or... just because I'm lonely, it doesn't mean I'm alone. Though all pain is very real, it's not what defines me.

I am I, nothing else is.

that, and the Nietzschian expression; "nothing is true, everything is permitted", has let me burn through all the horrible shit that's happened in my life.....

it's rather ironic to me that being a solipsistic nihilist has kept me going..... because suicide is the one choice that ends all further possibilty and experience.

that is beautiful,man. such poetry through prose. truth staring down the face of demise. right on.my friend. right on. Thank you for caring enough to post light, here in the darkest of space. you will touch many lives with your brave and lovely contribution. for those who may not yet be able to say it and for those who are still to come across these lines...THANK YOU!!!TRULY,THANK YOU!

Much Peace and Love........................
...............................skillz<3
 
That was a very thoughtful post, skillz, and I thank you for being so kind.

I suppose some people are not adaptable to the ways of society. I just cannot try anymore. It is too discouraging. Life is not worth living. I feel like a broken failure. Cold and alone. No breaths of a lover, no crying babies. Silence. I will not have it anymore. I have to follow through with this.
 
That was a very thoughtful post, skillz, and I thank you for being so kind.

I suppose some people are not adaptable to the ways of society. I just cannot try anymore. It is too discouraging. Life is not worth living. I feel like a broken failure. Cold and alone. No breaths of a lover, no crying babies. Silence. I will not have it anymore. I have to follow through with this.

just like you I have spent the past 2+ years in a room full of books,a TV, my laptop and my legal RXs that I abuse by extracting and injecting. I am a hermit,a recluse. I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.The only difference in us is that I know I can change it-slowly but surely I am reaching that point. So can you. Fuck it,man.Hang out on Bl and bullshit with me. I shoot Methylphenidate....I am usually up.It is always darkest before the dawn. I can't recall who said that, but I sure as hell know I live by it.The dark will begin to fade and it may be slow coming,but there will be light in your life again.I KNOW IT.
Hang in there,friend. I'll be here if you need to talk. I set up all Bl notifications to go straight to my cell.anytime...bc that is one thing i have plenty of-time. I'd be more than happy to spend some with you.
Stay strong....

Much Peace and Love............skillz<3
 
Kind of rambling so sorry, just feeling emoish and I couldn't stop going :-\

I actually find myself jealous of the people that are saddened by rejection just because they have experiences and I fear rejection too much to even open myself to it. Well that and I can't recall most experiences in my life just cause I've been this way as long I can remember, it's like my memory isn't active and doesn't work right.. My old friends knew I had a terrible memory and used to finish sentences for me and everything.

Spent most of middle school to end of high school sleep deprived to the point of barely being able to socialize, usually not much more than a few sentences if I were to talk that day, most of the time I didn't say a word unless I had to cause it took too much effort. Blacked out randomly cause my body forced rem sleep on me while taking notes and would always miss them cause the teacher would be erasing them when I was awake again (at the time I had no idea what was happening when chunks of time were gone). I usually got somewhere between 6 and 12 hours of sleep a week altogether, mostly at school, and I actually got less on the weekends because I was hooked on games.

Senior year decided I'd turn it around cause I was sick of my memory problems etc. and I spent every night in bed for 7-9 hours straight without sleeping, but thinking it was still good for me right? I thought maybe I'm depressed cause everyone in my family and extended family is on meds so I talk to a psych and end up on 20 mgs of Prozac. Like a week after getting on the Prozac I end up on a terribly eyeballed dose of shrooms which resulted in the worst trip I have ever had in my life.

Month later I feel the desire for sleep at a friends house, I completely forgot what it was and it was such a huge moment for me, went into another room while they dropped acid and I went to sleep. Although it still took me a while to fall asleep at first I was already in the habit of laying in bed all night.

Throughout the beginning of the year I started to break down more and more, I was gaining feelings and emotions I forgot existed and I was starting to feel suicidal for the first time in my life (the shroom trip definitely didn't help with any of this). Before then I always thought it was such a stupid thought, so illogical (I strictly followed logic while sleep deprived, little to no emotions affected my thoughts) to commit suicide. I had been off my ADD meds for years, but then decided to take one (they were previously forced on me, this time I wanted them) and I got on adderall and found out it removed these suicidal thoughts and made everything clear and perfect. You can just imagine where this ends up right?

Few times I took hand fulls of drugs recklessly while feeling down, partially a cry for help, but ended up never telling anyone. Blacked out one of the times after blood pressure meds and shit and woke up with the nurse above me. Managed to convince everyone I just hadn't slept (funny considering my past, but nobody really knew how severe my sleep deprivation was). Throughout this period of emoness, my reliance on adderall grew and I got more scripts prescribed including dex and vyvanse and also I had my prozac dose doubled to 40 mgs.

After a while on the 40 mg dose of prozac I found it impossible to get up in the morning and ended up getting dropped from the credit recovery program I was in. Enrolled in an alternative high school that only promoted my addiction and I ended up wanting nothing more than to tweak harder and I did just that :-\ I scored from a previous meth head that went to school with me at first until I found my own supply and they only let one person in the bathroom at a time so I used it as a place to smoke. Eventually crashed and burned and stopped going to school again and got kicked out. Btw speed is a terrible drug for someone that hates sleep anyway and blows it off like nothing.

Took a couple months out of school and then eventually got my GED and now the present after moving to VA:

I'm turning 20 in November and I've never been in a relationship, went on a few dates with one chick that I didn't even like (friend hooked us up or something, i cant remember) and I'm not only still a virgin, I've never even gotten a bj. Not a single one of my friends knows that I'm a virgin, they all think I've gotten way more action they have cause girls grind on me a lot and whatnot, but I'm not really into girls so it is kinda like meh and I guess to a degree I'm scared of not performing well? That and I'm usually staring at the guys at the party while they're grinding on me, but I've never met a gay guy in person that I found attractive.

I currently don't have a single friend besides a friend from mn that I talk to online and an old childhood friend that I barely know anymore and he lives bout an hour and a half away. I avoid pretty much all situations that I have to feel uncomfortable in because I can't stand showing the "nonsmooth" side that is full of anxiety (who likes showing that side?).

I'm behind in life it feels like basically I guess, idk. My older brother (more recently) and everyone has put pressure on me all my life to do well because I had the highest IQ test out of everyone in my family, but I have always just felt half retarded and I despise school. I've always wanted to be rich and successful, but now I just feel like I don't care and I have no idea where I'll end up in the future. Don't even know if it'll be with a guy or girl if anyone. I feel like people years younger than me have done more than I have in life and are farther along than I am, sexually, socially, everything idk.

Weirdest thing is I don't know how much that shroom trip changed me cause I can't remember what I felt like before, but ever since it happened I haven't been able to figure out how I feel bout anything and I've just been lost. Pretty sure it had a bigger part in who I am than I've been thinking it did.
 
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Kind of rambling so sorry, just feeling emoish and I couldn't stop going :-\

I actually find myself jealous of the people that are saddened by rejection just because they have experiences and I fear rejection too much to even open myself to it. Well that and I can't recall most experiences in my life just cause I've been this way as long I can remember, it's like my memory isn't active and doesn't work right.. My old friends knew I had a terrible memory and used to finish sentences for me and everything.

Spent most of middle school to end of high school sleep deprived to the point of barely being able to socialize, usually not much more than a few sentences if I were to talk that day, most of the time I didn't say a word unless I had to cause it took too much effort. Blacked out randomly cause my body forced rem sleep on me while taking notes and would always miss them and the teacher would erase them etc. etc.

Senior year decided I'd turn it around cause I was sick of my memory problems etc. and I spent every night in bed for 7-9 hours straight without sleeping, but thinking it was still good for me right? I thought maybe I'm depressed cause everyone in my family and extended family is on meds so I talk to a psych and end up on 20 mgs of Prozac. Like a week after getting on the Prozac I end up on a terribly eyeballed dose of shrooms which resulted in the worst trip I have ever had in my life.

Month later I feel the desire for sleep at a friends house, I completely forgot what it was and it was such a huge moment for me, went into another room while they dropped acid and I went to sleep. Although it still took me a while to fall asleep at first I was already in the habit of laying in bed all night.

Throughout the beginning of the year I started to break down more and more, I was gaining feelings and emotions I forgot existed and I was starting to feel suicidal for the first time in my life (the shroom trip definitely didn't help with any of this). Before then I always thought it was such a stupid thought, so illogical (I strictly followed logic while sleep deprived, little to no emotions affected my thoughts) to commit suicide. I had been off my ADD meds for years, but then decided to take one (they were previously forced on me, this time I wanted them) and I got on adderall and found out it removed these suicidal thoughts and made everything clear and perfect. You can just imagine where this ends up right?

Few times I took hand fulls of drugs recklessly while feeling down, partially a cry for help, but ended up never telling anyone. Blacked out one of the times after blood pressure meds and shit and woke up with the nurse above me. Managed to convince everyone I just hadn't slept (funny considering my past, but nobody really knew how severe my sleep deprivation was). Throughout this period of emoness, my reliance on adderall grew and I got more scripts prescribed including dex and vyvanse and also I had my prozac dose doubled to 40 mgs.

After a while on the 40 mg dose of prozac I found it impossible to get up in the morning and ended up getting dropped from the credit recovery program I was in. Enrolled in an alternative high school that only promoted my addiction and I ended up going through an average of 3-4 bottles a month along with smoking meth in the bathroom and doing coke after school occasionally (never done it off amp). Eventually crash and burned and stopped going to school again and got kicked out.

Took a couple months out of school and then eventually got my GED and now the present after moving to VA:

I'm turning 20 in November and I've never been in a relationship, went on a few dates with one chick that I didn't even like (friend hooked us up or something, i cant remember) and I'm not only still a virgin, I've never even gotten a bj.

I currently don't have a single friend besides a friend from mn that I talk to online and an old childhood friend that I barely know anymore and he lives bout an hour and a half away. I avoid pretty much all situations that I have to feel uncomfortable in because I can't stand showing the "nonsmooth" side that is full of anxiety. I don't know what else to say, this has been long, but it felt good to get out :-\ I'm behind in life it feels like basically I guess, idk. My older brother (more recently) and everyone has put pressure on me all my life to do well because I had the highest IQ test out of everyone in my family, but I just feel half retarded and I despise school. I've always wanted to be rich and successful, but now I just feel like I don't care and I have no idea where I'll end up in the future. Don't even know if it'll be with a guy or girl if anyone.

It really amazes me that I could

first of all,you are not alone.2nd rambling is the sacred language of the lost-no need to apologize,trust me-take a look at some of my post-hell look at the one I posted earlier.I am a writer at heart and even here Ii find it hard to limit the lengths of my post.That being said all you are is lost.happens to us all and not just when we are young.Life is a labyrinth-scary at times,confusing often but beautiful all the same. you are not hopeless or behind in life-I promise,we all grow,mature,stop repeating the same mistakes,learn to love ourselves,forgive ect...at our on pace.Like you I started using very early in life.1st drink at 12 1st drug at 13.from there it just spiraled.I did manage to stay in school into my 2nd year of college.That was in 1995.To date I still take classes when I can and am almost a junior.I will be 34 next week. But I haven't given up-and the older I get,the more shit I survive,the less complicated my problems become.
You have an entire life ahead of you-YOUR life,meaning you can make of it what you want.I think it is great that you got your GED.You should be proud of that.Most young people who don't finish high school don't care enough to do what you did.Being a virgin is a blessing in disguise.This is from an openly gay woman who asked a childhood friend to sleep with me on my 18th birthday so that I wouldn't be a virgin & in hopes it would make me straight.I knew at age 5 that I liked girls and I went wildly promiscuous with men after that trying to change who I really was.I am glad that you chose to share,but I think you have too much survival instinct and fight in you to post in the suicide thread.Don't take that the wrong way-its just that I checked your other posts and in my quick scan only saw one other post in TDS.I think you should stay here in The Dark Side for a while.Spill your guts,tell your most haunting memories,let it go in threads here you will get more feedback.Check out the TDS social thread. Drugs do a number on us all-especially an insomniac who falls in love with meth(I raise my hand and freely admit to being one myself)and we all are scatter brained and fried sometimes. I think if you give this a try,you will find you have many friends who have been through the same hardships and by supporting each other the darkness begins to show signs of life.PM me anytime if you have questions.I am no moderator or person of any great influence but I have been to hell and back more than once and I am here to help those who now walk where I once tread-not to mention the support I get from the community when I am down.I think your post,and mine that now follows should be moved to a thread that will get you some more traffic and as a result more feedback. but that is not a decision I can make.I only say it because I think you are tough and that your will to live is more than live and kicking.plus,if it gets moved I ant you to be assured that it is a positive thing.then again,it may stay here where you chose to post it and you will get more and more positive feedback.I could have sent you a PM,but you were brave enough to post your woes and I think that merits a public reply.hang in there.your are gonna be just fine.
Much Peace and Love..................skillz<3
 
I have been really lost, confused, depressed, and suffering from alot of anxiety ever since I got out of the service a few months ago. As much as I think about suicide (a lot,) I realized that I am more obsessed with the IDEA of suicide and that I couldn't ever actually go through with it. So I went to my doctor and started some Klonopin and Wellbutrin. Also I am doing some roxies here and there to break the cycle of depression. Those few hours of euphoria sort of take me out of myself and I am usually happy for the next couple days until something triggers the bad feelings again.
 
@jackiejones

Just read your post #50 and i know exactly how your feeling. Allthough i stopped i.v. heroin a few years ago (except for the odd dabble) to go on methadone maintenance. After stopping drugs all my bad anxiety / depression has come back and i realise why i started doing them in the first place. I also plan suicide and feel better for it, i cant be happy straight or on drugs my minds just too damaged.
My rountine these days , is get up , go get methadone then play games/go on web all day. thats it ive cut myself off from allmost everyone nowadays and leaving the house has become a living nightmare.
anyway no one has the right to judge you jackie jones (even god) and i admire your strength for making a decision and planning to go through with it, (as i have) but i do hope you find something in yourself that may stop you from ending things. mental pain is the worst pain ime by quite some distance.
 
@MEDDIEFRAC

I dont know much about PTSD but you made the right decision seeing your doctor. also ive found , like you said that the IDEA of suicide, can in itself make you feel slightly better!
Also leaving the service is a big step and i dont know how long you were in, or where but its bound to have an impact on someones well being. the army is also well known for seeing mental health issues as weakness and many ex sevicemen mask their systoms with drugs or booze.
anyway i wish you well and hope you feel better soon.peace donnie
 
first of all,you are not alone.2nd rambling is the sacred language of the lost-no need to apologize,trust me-take a look at some of my post-hell look at the one I posted earlier.I am a writer at heart and even here Ii find it hard to limit the lengths of my post.That being said all you are is lost.happens to us all and not just when we are young.Life is a labyrinth-scary at times,confusing often but beautiful all the same. you are not hopeless or behind in life-I promise,we all grow,mature,stop repeating the same mistakes,learn to love ourselves,forgive ect...at our on pace.Like you I started using very early in life.1st drink at 12 1st drug at 13.from there it just spiraled.I did manage to stay in school into my 2nd year of college.That was in 1995.To date I still take classes when I can and am almost a junior.I will be 34 next week. But I haven't given up-and the older I get,the more shit I survive,the less complicated my problems become.
You have an entire life ahead of you-YOUR life,meaning you can make of it what you want.I think it is great that you got your GED.You should be proud of that.Most young people who don't finish high school don't care enough to do what you did.Being a virgin is a blessing in disguise.This is from an openly gay woman who asked a childhood friend to sleep with me on my 18th birthday so that I wouldn't be a virgin & in hopes it would make me straight.I knew at age 5 that I liked girls and I went wildly promiscuous with men after that trying to change who I really was.I am glad that you chose to share,but I think you have too much survival instinct and fight in you to post in the suicide thread.Don't take that the wrong way-its just that I checked your other posts and in my quick scan only saw one other post in TDS.I think you should stay here in The Dark Side for a while.Spill your guts,tell your most haunting memories,let it go in threads here you will get more feedback.Check out the TDS social thread. Drugs do a number on us all-especially an insomniac who falls in love with meth(I raise my hand and freely admit to being one myself)and we all are scatter brained and fried sometimes. I think if you give this a try,you will find you have many friends who have been through the same hardships and by supporting each other the darkness begins to show signs of life.PM me anytime if you have questions.I am no moderator or person of any great influence but I have been to hell and back more than once and I am here to help those who now walk where I once tread-not to mention the support I get from the community when I am down.I think your post,and mine that now follows should be moved to a thread that will get you some more traffic and as a result more feedback. but that is not a decision I can make.I only say it because I think you are tough and that your will to live is more than live and kicking.plus,if it gets moved I ant you to be assured that it is a positive thing.then again,it may stay here where you chose to post it and you will get more and more positive feedback.I could have sent you a PM,but you were brave enough to post your woes and I think that merits a public reply.hang in there.your are gonna be just fine.
Much Peace and Love..................skillz<3

I was mainly apologizing because I didn't think it was the right place to ramble, so I completely agree. I was just in a down mood and it started from me just wanting to say I honestly felt jealous of how some of the people in here actually had experiences and I shy away from them. I just felt like it'd be taken the wrong way so I tried to explain where I'm coming from and it turned into me rambling.

I'm really sorry for doing my ramblings here and making it seem like I was in need of help, but I still really appreciate your response. Again I'm really sorry, was just down and rambling, didn't realize what kind of response I might trigger. It would probably be best for my post to be moved.
 
I was mainly apologizing because I didn't think it was the right place to ramble, so I completely agree. I was just in a down mood and it started from me just wanting to say I honestly felt jealous of how some of the people in here actually had experiences and I shy away from them. I just felt like it'd be taken the wrong way so I tried to explain where I'm coming from and it turned into me rambling.

I'm really sorry for doing my ramblings here and making it seem like I was in need of help, but I still really appreciate your response. Again I'm really sorry, was just down and rambling, didn't realize what kind of response I might trigger. It would probably be best for my post to be moved.

PLEASE don't feel that way. I merely wanted to encourage you and applaud your bravery. you post where you feel the need to post. I just identify with a lot of hat you have been through and trying to get you come hang out in a lighter place with me...I've been in CD soc since I left a reply for you. come out and play and discover you are not alone.never apologize for putting yourself out there.I am glad you did and that we met. come check out cannabis social for a bit. it may be a little slow but you can catch up on my escapades from all day long. you are always welcome to post here. i am sorry that I conveyed myself poorly. now c'mon to CD soc and have a laugh.


**EDIT** do not hesitate to send me a private message if you do not want to post....anytime.seriously<3
Much Peace and Love........................skillz<3
 
@MEDDIEFRAC]

I dont know much about PTSD but you made the right decision seeing your doctor. also ive found , like you said that the IDEA of suicide, can in itself make you feel slightly better!

I enlisted right after 11 Sept 01. from the very beginning, i had to sit through regular classes on suicide suicide prevention. The Army is well aware of the high suicide rate, and mental health issues we face, and they really try to give soldiers the help they need.

Also leaving the service is a big step and i dont know how long you were in, or where but its bound to have an impact on someones well being. the army is
also well known for seeing mental health issues as weakness and many ex sevicemen mask their systoms with drugs or booze.

it's not the army that forces soldiers to hide their problems, and see them as being weakness. if a soldier says he/she needs help, they don't get ostracized..... unless they do it to themselves. its a matter of pride, really. we're part of a team, and its natural to not wanna let the team down.

for in the Army, the reasons for why we hide and bury our problems are almost impossible to exprees to civilians. but we are still devoted to our duty, and when we're downrange, the mission comes first. so we *have* to suppress our problems to do our job.

and PTSD is really a lazy catchall diagnosis... its just something that covers multiple issues, and taken individually they can be treated well.
 
that is beautiful,man. such poetry through prose. truth staring down the face of demise. right on.my friend. right on. Thank you for caring enough to post light, here in the darkest of space. you will touch many lives with your brave and lovely contribution. for those who may not yet be able to say it and for those who are still to come across these lines...THANK YOU!!!TRULY,THANK YOU!

Much Peace and Love........................
...............................skillz<3
I'm pleased someone picked up on my words and caught the idea of it all.
I've been exactly where ya'll are.... and its frustrating to see someone falling apart, going through the same kinda pain I've felt... and not being able to help. advices are rarely taken seriously, since part of why we're in a world of shit is that we're so self-adsorbed, we let ideas fly right over our heads.

your regular friends, girlfriends, boyfriend don't define what life is. and you are not your job, your school, internet, television, couch, bookcase..... none of them define who and how we are.... don't let ego override the overmind; experience life as it is, and then live as you want to live....
even in solitude,
 
gave her cpr ( had to quickly look it up on the net what to do ) n called ambos , they said if id waited any longer she would of died , the 2nd time was on ghb and i.v smack ,
she took the g orally of course , she stopped breathing so yet again , same deal .
then i fucked that one off quick smart ,

Even though you are no longer with this person, surely you must see the great value you are as a human being to be able to recognize someone is ODing, look up how to CPR online, and do so, successfully, in a very small window of time, while also having called for an ambulance.

Most people would have at least panicked a little, and probably would have been unable to do CPR that quickly with such little time to realize what needs to be done.

I just felt like telling you that man. I know it doesn't change how you feel now, I know that won't change the fact you watched a friend of yours murdered in front of you (well, maybe your H connect wasn't a "friend", mine was, I'm just making assumptions again...), and I'm sure that it has no bearing on your future relationships with other people either (other than the fact you are ready to perform CPR), but surely this at least shows that your life has meaning and purpose, and that you are a brave person.

Not many people I know would be brave enough to do all of the steps you did, especially considering that drugs were involved. A lot of times when drugs are involved, people panic and they don't do the right thing because they fear getting in trouble, but that didn't happen to you. Even if you were on drugs yourself when this happened, that means it was just that much harder to do everything but you were still able to do it.

I just think that's amazing, a strength to be valued. I'm not even sure if I could have done this myself if I was in your shoes.
 
Fuck it,man.Hang out on Bl and bullshit with me.

I'm also down for bullshitting. Skillz is one of the most genuine people on this website, and we both care for you as a friend JJ! <3

Kind of rambling so sorry, just feeling emoish and I couldn't stop going :-\

I actually find myself jealous of the people that are saddened by rejection just because they have experiences and I fear rejection too much to even open myself to it. Well that and I can't recall most experiences in my life just cause I've been this way as long I can remember, it's like my memory isn't active and doesn't work right.. My old friends knew I had a terrible memory and used to finish sentences for me and everything.

Spent most of middle school to end of high school sleep deprived to the point of barely being able to socialize, usually not much more than a few sentences if I were to talk that day, most of the time I didn't say a word unless I had to cause it took too much effort. Blacked out randomly cause my body forced rem sleep on me while taking notes and would always miss them cause the teacher would be erasing them when I was awake again (at the time I had no idea what was happening when chunks of time were gone). I usually got somewhere between 6 and 12 hours of sleep a week altogether, mostly at school, and I actually got less on the weekends because I was hooked on games.

Senior year decided I'd turn it around cause I was sick of my memory problems etc. and I spent every night in bed for 7-9 hours straight without sleeping, but thinking it was still good for me right? I thought maybe I'm depressed cause everyone in my family and extended family is on meds so I talk to a psych and end up on 20 mgs of Prozac. Like a week after getting on the Prozac I end up on a terribly eyeballed dose of shrooms which resulted in the worst trip I have ever had in my life.

Month later I feel the desire for sleep at a friends house, I completely forgot what it was and it was such a huge moment for me, went into another room while they dropped acid and I went to sleep. Although it still took me a while to fall asleep at first I was already in the habit of laying in bed all night.

Throughout the beginning of the year I started to break down more and more, I was gaining feelings and emotions I forgot existed and I was starting to feel suicidal for the first time in my life (the shroom trip definitely didn't help with any of this). Before then I always thought it was such a stupid thought, so illogical (I strictly followed logic while sleep deprived, little to no emotions affected my thoughts) to commit suicide. I had been off my ADD meds for years, but then decided to take one (they were previously forced on me, this time I wanted them) and I got on adderall and found out it removed these suicidal thoughts and made everything clear and perfect. You can just imagine where this ends up right?

Few times I took hand fulls of drugs recklessly while feeling down, partially a cry for help, but ended up never telling anyone. Blacked out one of the times after blood pressure meds and shit and woke up with the nurse above me. Managed to convince everyone I just hadn't slept (funny considering my past, but nobody really knew how severe my sleep deprivation was). Throughout this period of emoness, my reliance on adderall grew and I got more scripts prescribed including dex and vyvanse and also I had my prozac dose doubled to 40 mgs.

After a while on the 40 mg dose of prozac I found it impossible to get up in the morning and ended up getting dropped from the credit recovery program I was in. Enrolled in an alternative high school that only promoted my addiction and I ended up wanting nothing more than to tweak harder and I did just that :-\ I scored from a previous meth head that went to school with me at first until I found my own supply and they only let one person in the bathroom at a time so I used it as a place to smoke. Eventually crashed and burned and stopped going to school again and got kicked out. Btw speed is a terrible drug for someone that hates sleep anyway and blows it off like nothing.

Took a couple months out of school and then eventually got my GED and now the present after moving to VA:

I'm turning 20 in November and I've never been in a relationship, went on a few dates with one chick that I didn't even like (friend hooked us up or something, i cant remember) and I'm not only still a virgin, I've never even gotten a bj. Not a single one of my friends knows that I'm a virgin, they all think I've gotten way more action they have cause girls grind on me a lot and whatnot, but I'm not really into girls so it is kinda like meh and I guess to a degree I'm scared of not performing well? That and I'm usually staring at the guys at the party while they're grinding on me, but I've never met a gay guy in person that I found attractive.

I currently don't have a single friend besides a friend from mn that I talk to online and an old childhood friend that I barely know anymore and he lives bout an hour and a half away. I avoid pretty much all situations that I have to feel uncomfortable in because I can't stand showing the "nonsmooth" side that is full of anxiety (who likes showing that side?).

I'm behind in life it feels like basically I guess, idk. My older brother (more recently) and everyone has put pressure on me all my life to do well because I had the highest IQ test out of everyone in my family, but I have always just felt half retarded and I despise school. I've always wanted to be rich and successful, but now I just feel like I don't care and I have no idea where I'll end up in the future. Don't even know if it'll be with a guy or girl if anyone. I feel like people years younger than me have done more than I have in life and are farther along than I am, sexually, socially, everything idk.

Weirdest thing is I don't know how much that shroom trip changed me cause I can't remember what I felt like before, but ever since it happened I haven't been able to figure out how I feel bout anything and I've just been lost. Pretty sure it had a bigger part in who I am than I've been thinking it did.

wtblife; I enjoyed reading your story because I have experienced a few similar problems you have (i.e. horrible sleep schedule, and I also have ADHD which has been primarily socially debilitating for me).

I also can connect with being so afraid of rejection that you simply don't put yourself in a position to make friends with someone/hit on someone/etc (there are similar situations, but I think you get the drift). This used to be me.

Even though the mushroom trip did not turn out as positively as it could have, I hope that you at least gain some knowledge out of it. I have had trips that left me reeling at the thought of ever using psychedelics again...but I still gained a lot of spiritual knowledge out of such an experience.

Being in a psychedelic trip, while experiencing horrific/terrifying/ego-shattering things (stuff that I have hardly cared to relate to other people to spare them the burden of such horrible perceptions/realizations) can help develop you into a very strong willed, tolerant person. I have a lot of patience and empathy and tact that I thought I would never get out of any such experiences.

The fact that you have told us all of this about yourself means that you are opening up to us, and you are putting yourself in a place where you could be rejected. Really though, no one will reject you... but I just wanted to show you that you went out on a limb here. You never know if someone's going to start trolling this thread or whatever, so when you said that you don't put yourself in positions where you could even possibly be rejected, I think you are already (possibly subconsciously?) working on it.

The first step in the right direction always seems the hardest IMO, it's like how admitting you have a problem is half the battle.

I am going to PM you because I feel like I can relate to you on a different level but I should PM you instead of posting it here. I hope you don't mind.

I have been really lost, confused, depressed, and suffering from alot of anxiety ever since I got out of the service a few months ago. As much as I think about suicide (a lot,) I realized that I am more obsessed with the IDEA of suicide and that I couldn't ever actually go through with it. So I went to my doctor and started some Klonopin and Wellbutrin. Also I am doing some roxies here and there to break the cycle of depression. Those few hours of euphoria sort of take me out of myself and I am usually happy for the next couple days until something triggers the bad feelings again.

I am really sorry to hear you are feeling down. Drugs often have a rebound effect on affect, meaning they can make you feel good one moment, but after the fun is gone, those feelings tend to change.

However I don't disagree with your method, I was a heroin addict, and I used (to me is heavy use but to others isn't all that heavy I guess) for a whole year. I have been clean for 22 months now, and I am convinced that living through heroin addiction, and recovering from it, has only made me a stronger person.

I have also learned a lot about myself, and I think you will too, as you continue to use drugs to modulate your mood/affect, and to help repress some of the more negative emotions you are experiencing.

If you don't mind, can I ask you some questions? First, did you have these feelings before serving in the military? Or, did these feelings come about while you were in service, or did they come about only when you got back home and everything was said and done, maybe months after you got back home?

One last question, what makes you happy that is non-drug related? It is OK that drugs make you happy! I just know that there is something non-drug related that makes you happy, there typically is for everyone (I am convinced sociopaths ONLY derive joy out of drugs, but I am sure this doesn't apply to anyone here). Whether it's a girl you like, long walks on the beach, a big bowl of ice cream with all the toppings, music, what have you, what do you like to do?

and PTSD is really a lazy catchall diagnosis... its just something that covers multiple issues, and taken individually they can be treated well.

I will respectfully disagree with your notion that PTSD is a lazy, catch-all diagnosis. Then again, I am not saying that you have PTSD, however I know someone with PTSD and it is a very hard disorder to cope with.
 
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I'm not saying that PTSD isn't a seriously hard thing to deal with. it is.... for those that really have it.

Just now doctors are throwing that diagnosis at everyone who's been a little shaken up by life.

PTSD from being in combat, an armed-robbery/assault/rape?..... yes.
PTSD from being in a minor fender-bender, or being yelled at in school?..... cop-out.
 
for me myself its good to see im not alone out there. this is a place where every1 is more or less the same.

there are ppl who just cant see a way to escape but to commit suicide. i thought about that often myself, i wished i would die and at the same time imagined who would even REALIZE that i would be gone. not very many except my family and i could never do this to them.

so we have to stand the fuck up again and keep going. there is hope and we all will find it one day all of a sudden.

me, i just want to get hugged sometimes or somebody thats just near me. but i cant remember when this has happened. in the morning i wake up, go to work and in the evening i wait till i fall asleep. this happens everyday and im waiting for something to happen. it doesnt but i keep waiting.

im still young, i cant believe that it would never change again. people like you give me hope. a little buzz of energy, just enough to keep going some more and more.

lonelyness can kill, sadness can kill. but not yet! im still here and so are you <3
 
I'm not saying that PTSD isn't a seriously hard thing to deal with. it is.... for those that really have it.

Just now doctors are throwing that diagnosis at everyone who's been a little shaken up by life.

PTSD from being in combat, an armed-robbery/assault/rape?..... yes.
PTSD from being in a minor fender-bender, or being yelled at in school?..... cop-out.

OK, that I can agree with.

I didn't mean to have to split hairs with you, but I can definitely agree with what you are saying.

My fiancee was in a car accident where her car was totalled and pushed off of the road, definitely different from a minor fender-bender. She now has chronic back pain.

Prior to this, we were both held at gunpoint (I wrote more about this in a different thread) - there is more trauma I have experienced that I'm not going to divulge, and due to this, my fiancee most definitely has PTSD, and has had a really hard time coping with it.

I also have PTSD-like symptoms but I am not convinced I have it, since I have been slowly recovering from these symptoms (alexithymia, dissociation, flashbacks) whereas my fiancee has not (she also has more symptoms than I do).

A lot of people make PTSD out to be a fake diagnosis, or a cop out, but it's definitely not. I definitely do understand that like other mental disorders, it can be over-diagnosed, and I agree with your example.

Thank you for being understanding.

me, i just want to get hugged sometimes or somebody thats just near me. but i cant remember when this has happened.

You deserve to be hugged, and if I wasn't living in this god forsaken country, I would give you one too. <3
 
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