Official Heroin Discussion Thread IV

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hm since u guys are experts how hard is it to OD? if i have some really really good shit, and i never used, wheres the point I should stop, really i was only planning on taking a bump the size of maybe my fingernail

If you are snorting, probably don't have to worry about ODing. But if you have no opiate tollerance, plan on throwing up, the high will be intense. IVing is tricky to say depending on youe tollerance.
 
After 4 years my dope guy decided not to call me back about meeting up. Wtf I hate having cash and no product. I don't get these people. I would much rather him say "no I can't meet up", rather than say "I'll call you in 2 hours" never to hear back.
 
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Decided since today is the day of the sabbath, I figured I'd go out and grab some good ole Chi-town raw. And let me say, I was very pleasantly surprised. Don't get me wrong, it's always GREAT. But todays is the best I've had in as long as I can remember. Figured I'd upload and spread the love.

LIterally .03 of this stuff practically floors me. I had some of my buddies west side D a cpl weeks ago and it literally took me almost .4 to catch a small nod. Just goes to show how much they will cut that shit up :\

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Shame on you phantom and alte for trying to convince chinkey to slam the dope. What happened to this being a harm reduction board, what about trying to tell someone to inject their heroin falls under that category? I sniffed heroin for 2 and a half years and the day i started shooting it turned into a whole new thing. I was able to maintain a sort of control while sniffing but once i started shooting it the whole game changed. It is a bad idea, yes the rush in better, yes its more efficient but it is by no means safer or a good idea. You guys a doing a horrible thing by trying to tell someone to do that
 
Of that 300-360mg's of Oxycodone, only about 100mg's is actually soluble in 1cc of solution.

You need to be using a 3cc fit for an oxy shot that size amigo.

you solubility charts are wrong if thats all you are going on. do you have experience shooting over 100mg of oxycodone? you miost certainly get all 300mgs worth in that 100units of water.
 
thanks ninety and believe me I wanna feel that "rush"..I guess I don't have the balls to do it
 
What's in certain heroin that upon shooting it, it itches like FUCK in a certain spot , and RIGHT AFTER u shoot it. Like 8 seconds or so to be more specific..is it a certain type of cut or is it morphine or wtf can it be? Good night to all.
 
What's in certain heroin that upon shooting it, it itches like FUCK in a certain spot , and RIGHT AFTER u shoot it. Like 8 seconds or so to be more specific..is it a certain type of cut or is it morphine or wtf can it be? Good night to all.

heroin on its own will do that. any opiate will.

opiates cause the release of histamine from mast cells to varying degrees, and in turn this causes symptoms like an allergic reaction, generally itching and some flushing.

it's nothing to worry about, its a common side effect, usually seen with heroin, morphine, and codeine...less so with synthetics and other semisynthetics.
 
What's in certain heroin that upon shooting it, it itches like FUCK in a certain spot , and RIGHT AFTER u shoot it. Like 8 seconds or so to be more specific..is it a certain type of cut or is it morphine or wtf can it be? Good night to all.

do you get tar? IMO tar itches the most because of its lesser refinement...which means it has several opiate alkaloids in it (codiene, morphine, thebaine, etc) in addition to heroin and its actually well documented that codiene-especially in higher doses- is usually the most itchy narcotic for most people.

There is also a certain cut that will produce extra itchiness so as to give off the impression that it's stronger dope. I can't remember which cut it is, but I've heard of it being used in conjunction with diphenhydramine(which helps kick in the nod) to fool the consumers :(

I personally have stopped using diphen with my dope because I started to notice my lungs getting wheezy and were taking on asthma characteristics. As soon as I stopped the diphen it instantly went away. which, I digress for a moment, but apparently a lot of chicago H snorting addicts are rushed to the ER for asthma attacks. The reason why it's seen a lot in chicago is because chi dope is notoriously cut with dormin(diphen). This actually happened to a friend of mine that fucks with the west side D (this is actually why he switched from snorting to the needle) and when he told me about it I got real paranoid cause I had just started noticing my lungs getting wheezy, etc. So let that be a warning to any dope sniffers out there that are noticing their lungs getting weaker; either start mainlining your shit or start getting raw...or else you're going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.

whew, I'm high. :)
 
do you get tar? IMO tar itches the most because of its lesser refinement...which means it has several opiate alkaloids in it (codiene, morphine, thebaine, etc) in addition to heroin and its actually well documented that codiene-especially in higher doses- is usually the most itchy narcotic for most people.

There is also a certain cut that will produce extra itchiness so as to give off the impression that it's stronger dope. I can't remember which cut it is, but I've heard of it being used in conjunction with diphenhydramine(which helps kick in the nod) to fool the consumers :(

I personally have stopped using diphen with my dope because I started to notice my lungs getting wheezy and were taking on asthma characteristics. As soon as I stopped the diphen it instantly went away. which, I digress for a moment, but apparently a lot of chicago H snorting addicts are rushed to the ER for asthma attacks. The reason why it's seen a lot in chicago is because chi dope is notoriously cut with dormin(diphen). This actually happened to a friend of mine that fucks with the west side D (this is actually why he switched from snorting to the needle) and when he told me about it I got real paranoid cause I had just started noticing my lungs getting wheezy, etc. So let that be a warning to any dope sniffers out there that are noticing their lungs getting weaker; either start mainlining your shit or start getting raw...or else you're going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.

whew, I'm high. :)

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diphenhydramine is an antihistamine, meaning it would decrease the itching and allergy/asthma like symptoms. the truth is you have NO idea what your shit is cut with unless youre the one cuttin it, you can only guess. but simple pharmacology dictates that you wouldnt itch from something that will KEEP you from itching.
 
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diphenhydramine is an antihistamine, meaning it would decrease the itching and allergy/asthma like symptoms. the truth is you have NO idea what your shit is cut with unless youre the one cuttin it, you can only guess. but simple pharmacology dictates that you wouldnt itch from something that will KEEP you from itching.

Yes..I understand this. I said that I didn't know the name of the cut that increased itching but have heard dealers using them in conjunction with diphenhydramine to put back some of the itching that is lost from the antihistamine. If you re-read my last post I said diphenhydramine increases the nod..never said anything about it increasing itching lol, but thanks for clarifying if that is how my post somehow accidentally came off as.

my whole point about the cutting and fooling consumers is that they could take average to even weak dope..add diphenhydramine to increase the nod, and then add the other cutting agent (which I can't remember, wanted to say quinine at first but that can't be right) to increase the itch- thereby adding pseudo-characteristics of good dope. but of course anyone who has used for awhile can see past this. IMO the only way to measure how good dope is by the level of euphoria.

note: I notice my posts often get misconstrued or misinterpreted here. I'm going to take that in as me being a shitty writer. I shall work on that.

sorry for the dbl post. but pallidamors, I just re-read my initial post and now can see why you made that assumption. The poster i was responding to was asking what causes the itch, and I was just kind of rambling instead of answering that. Shitting writing it is..
 
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What's in certain heroin that upon shooting it, it itches like FUCK in a certain spot , and RIGHT AFTER u shoot it. Like 8 seconds or so to be more specific..is it a certain type of cut or is it morphine or wtf can it be? Good night to all.

I noticed when I shoot in smaller veins towards the surface of my skin like my foot, wrist or hand it usually "burns" a little bit and itches more than deeper, better veins like my inside elbow, forearm, etc. Sometimes I get CRAZY itching episodes where it feels like my foot would be on fire or something and I would scratch the shit out of it and it would feel so good for like a minute. I might be missing and leaking a little out, but for the most part I would realize if I missed a good portion of the shot. It's definitely registering inside veins.
 
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