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Dodgy drugs put partygoers in hospital.

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PsiloSubNaut said:
Mixing 2C's with LSD should only be done by experienced trippers in very comfortable environments. Definitely my favorite trippy combo, but one that I take a lot of precautions with.

If you get the chance, try 2C-B mistee. If you don't enjoy this extremely smooth phenethylamine then I doubt you will enjoy any of them.

As for the bad reactions from the people consuming these caps. They would have had no idea what was happening when they started to experience the 2C-P comeup and would have panicked. I seriously doubt many, if any of them would have prior experiences with phenethylamines or any other psychs. I'm sure there was one or 2 people in Darwin who had a rocking time on them. Just as I did on the infamous orange triangle pills which were LSD and not MDMA. Half the club freaked out and thought they were dying and many went to hospital. Myself and my best mate dropped 2 more and just walked around the city for 8 hours :)
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I know a few people who recently took some "tripstacy" pills without knowing and expecting MDMA or at least whatever people expect from pills these days. Needless to say the inexperienced pill poppers let alone experienced trippers had a frightening experience. Even the experienced trippers were a little thrown off by the experience. This is in country SA.

+1 with Psilo on 2CB. I didn't enjoy 2C-I on it's own however I found 2CB to be my favourite psychedelic drug so far.
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
Certainly

Psychosomatic - descriptive of physical symptoms (real or perceived) that are caused by some form of psychological stress.

This psychosomatic state is usually brought on when one is confronted with their own ego whilst in a deep psychedelic state. It can also be brought on when suppressed memories are brought forward during a trip.

It tends to be more common and also more severe on high doses of phenehylamines than it is with high doses of other psychedelics. The worst ego death trips and accompanying psychological states that I have witnessed have been on high doses of 2C's or mixtures of 2C's with stimulants, especially MDPV.

It's not pretty. It is difficult for both the tripper and the trip sitter to work through such high psychological distress.

Triggers for this state are different in all people. Until it is brought on, it is hard to know what will push you over the edge.

I recommend not pushing your limits in new environments or around people who you don't really know.
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Thanks psilo, that's pretty interesting, I'll look more into reports of these experiences I think. :)
 
the thing i didnt like about 2-CI was the fact i was told it was mdma, so i arrived at a rather large music festival to consume these mdma capsules (which contained 2-CI) about 40 minutes after consumption bang!! i was chucked into a distant reality and virtually another dimension.
the thing that killed my experience was the fact, i didnt plan for it, i was in a very fast crazy environment, my mates were panicing (which made me panic, a little bit) and how fast and intense it came on.

@@ psilo + jakesperson, yeh i hear great things about 2-CB, i mean to knowingly plan and consume a correct dose of it would be great.. i must prepare this endeavour.
getting a little more experienced with psych drugs now, they are by far my personally hardest to try and controll but i have a little bit of leeway...
 
Moral Decay said:
a pill testing kit could have prevented all of these hospital trips...that is if the testers didn't still consume the suspect caps even after they saw the results.
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Come on now, don't be silly 8).

It's actually really sad how many test their pills and still consume them after no reaction :\.
 
imaging souble dropping and getting a 24mg or triple droppinga and adding another 12mg dosage of 2c-p, and the added stimulant which is obviously going to freak out anyone while properly tripping
 
I doubt that these contained a 12mg dose of 2C-P per cap. Most likely half that, maybe even less. People with little to no tripping experience would have some full on effects from 6mg 2C-P. It would have been further compounded by the cathinone combo (added stimulation) and them freaking out.

The 'backyard chemists' (lol) would have tried to aim for a 'dance floor' aka 'euphoric' dose of this substance. Low doses of synthetic phenethylamines are quite euphoric and not trippy. They are also quite the aphrodesiac in low doses. Gigidy goo
 
Seith said:
It's actually really sad how many test their pills and still consume them after no reaction :\.
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I did that once... Stupid. Thank god they were just duds and nothing worse (apparently) :\

In my defence, the reagent was old and I thought it had 'gone bad' 8)
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
Mixing 2C's with LSD should only be done by experienced trippers in very comfortable environments. Definitely my favorite trippy combo, but one that I take a lot of precautions with.

If you get the chance, try 2C-B mistee. If you don't enjoy this extremely smooth phenethylamine then I doubt you will enjoy any of them.

As for the bad reactions from the people consuming these caps. They would have had no idea what was happening when they started to experience the 2C-P comeup and would have panicked. I seriously doubt many, if any of them would have prior experiences with phenethylamines or any other psychs. I'm sure there was one or 2 people in Darwin who had a rocking time on them. Just as I did on the infamous orange triangle pills which were LSD and not MDMA. Half the club freaked out and thought they were dying and many went to hospital. Myself and my best mate dropped 2 more and just walked around the city for 8 hours :)
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When I was younger (and dumber) I mistook a small pile of powder on a tray as meth and sniffed it up. Only to find out about 5-10 minutes later it was a large dose of 2cb. Shit got really crazy really fast. My first indication was the lack of burn, in fact it was cold to the nose and sinus. Then i noted that sounds started to flange and whizz around my head followed by what I can explain only by saying the most intense and real looking watercolor painting I have ever been in.

I felt as though all I saw everything I touch and experienced was being painted in water color by an artist and I was in the painting. It was surprising but fucking fantastic. I was not disturbed or put off by it at all. I would love to do it again, it has to be the only psychedelic I have ever done that didn't come with a huge mind fuck. Of coarse if i did it again i would eat it.
 
Yeah I've always wanted to try 2c-b, it sounds like a really fun but not overwhelming trip. Acid is too much of a headfuck for me these days.
 
^Man up, the pain comes with the territory.

I've seen the most hardened men's eyes water like little girls from snorting 2C-x substances.

Eventually you do come to enjoy it, and even laugh upon it with time.
 
Interesting, perhaps i have more sinus damage then i realized from 2 years of heavy nasal meth usage. or maybe it was prepared for snorting, I dunno, I was at a casual aquaintences house. He had left and said I could help myself to what was on the tray until he returned. Luck of the draw i chose the wrong pile.
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
^^ Off topic, but what size was the line roughly? I'm tipping 10-20mg of 2C-B nasally would produce the effects which you stated.

A lot less than a nasal dose of amphetamines
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This was over 5 years ago and it wasn't much bigger than a key bump but if I had to give it my best guess looked about like no more than 25-50mg of fluffy/damp-ish powder. If it were in a "1" size capsule it would have been about 1/4 to 1/3 full with really loose powder. It was small for my typical meth line, but it was already powder where as the rest on the plate was still shard.

I didn't know what the fuck was happening to me. And I did panic a little at first because the effects were not what was expected but as soon as the watercolor effects came on I was really at ease and felt at peace. I pretty quickly assumed it was 2cb cause the same friend was trying to sell me some about a week previous to this.

Just before snorting the bump/line I was texting a GF about going to a club. After an unknown amount of time I was struggling to call her and tell her that there was no way I was gonna make it and eventually my friend had come home and told me what I snorted.

Jakeperson said:
It was probably cut, most 2C caps that get around here are packed full but with only small-moderate doses.
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I saw the caps he had the week prior, they were the "1" size caps, clear and barely had anything in them. They were not even half full, just barley a third.

Just to clarify I am not in Australia, I am in the states. But i do have some what of a romanticism for your country and wish to one day visit. To be honest I'm a little intimidated by your wildlife...lol. it seems no matter where you go something is waiting to poison you to death or at least cripple you with pain. haha
 
^Never been hurt by wildlife in australia. I don't know why you all think its so dangerous. You're not likely to step on some evil snake in the suburban or metro areas.

You're not likely to wrestle a croc, try and grab a koala or have a boxing match with a kangaroo - i think you'll be right ;)
 
lol yeah having lived on acreage most of my life with a lot of native fauna and floral around you're pretty right in regards to being attacked; read about the wildlife and watch documentaries, not prime time jetset adventure tour ads.

a quick enough dog keeps away the browns and a little bit of spider poison will only put hairs on your chest.
 
MrIbis said:
^Never been hurt by wildlife in australia. I don't know why you all think its so dangerous. You're not likely to step on some evil snake in the suburban or metro areas.

You're not likely to wrestle a croc, try and grab a koala or have a boxing match with a kangaroo - i think you'll be right ;)
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You will in Canberra. Kangaroos regularly hop down the main avenue here and only a few months ago a jogger was attacked by a roo 2 kilometres from the city centre. Snakes are also prevalent here.

Australia actually has 90% of the worlds most dangerous snake species. At least we don't have to put up with Bears here.
 
Our wildlife is exagurated, I was bitten by a redback in 9th grade and it just hurt my arm a little and gave me a headache.
 
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