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Dodgy drugs put partygoers in hospital.

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Dimethocaine might explain the health problems. A bunch of people might have popped a bunch chasing an MDMA high. Bad idea, especially if you have heart problems.
 
dextrous said:
Just saw this on ABC news..

It was Dimethocaine in those capsules
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According to last nights ABC news broadcast the active was confirmed as Methcathinone or Mcat and not Dimethocaine.

The story is at 12.17 of the broadcast which can easily be found online. I can post the link if that is ok mods?
 
I wonder if it was badly made or adulterated with something else, I never thought methcathinone was supposed to be a particularly strong or dangerous stimulant. I have to say it is quite surprising to hear of methcathinone cropping up in the days of project STOP, maybe there is an easy synthesis route without pseudo I am unaware of but it sure seems like a waste of pseudo to not turn it into meth!
 
The way our media has been researching and reporting these things lately I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be 4-MMC. I am just hoping the ABC is a bit more reputable.
 
Or just not take un-identifyable substances in towns so isolated that about the only stuff available is what comes from vendors in the mail ;)

Tough times in darwin, but when isnt it? From all reports I hear the kids up there will eat anything and pay royally out the arse for it like you wouldnt belive. Have not heard of any decent gear making its way up there in any way shape or form, and people should dose with that in mind.
 
I live in Darwin and know of a few people affected by this... I was in town too on these particular nights but because i read bluelight i know better than to waste my money on this rubbish :)

But, because the pill situation is horrible (as the whole of Australia) the clubbers up here instead of taking one or two over the night, they constantly start off with double or triple drops. I have seen it far too often!

I know from experience that double dropping two unknown caps (probably 4MMC, very silly on my part) makes me very weak, jittery and increases my heart rate off the charts.... That is what i believe happened to these people. Very sad :(
 
I wonder if the methcathinone was poorly synth'd or adulterated with a lesser known and harder to detect substance. Possibly mixed with an MAOI to increase effects maybe?

It seems very odd that oral use of a relatively mild stimulant would result in that many bad reactions.
 
It surely has to be a drug that is very uncommon or something is seriously wrong with whatever substance it was. I.e. massive dose in the capsules (still unlikely), a toxic adulterant together with the drug or a toxic byproduct from the synthesis.

This is a rather freak occurrence. That is a seriously high strike rate for hospitalisations right there. MMC or methcathinone would not do this otherwise we would see this sort of thing far more often. I cannot see methcathinone causing problems.

I wonder if someone has imported a stim like MDPV, has no idea about the dosage, and made up these capsules with way too much in them. The capsules do not seem too full to me. Looks more like the powder is scattered up the sides.
 
Biscuit said:
It surely has to be a drug that is very uncommon or something is seriously wrong with whatever substance it was. I.e. massive dose in the capsules (still unlikely), a toxic adulterant together with the drug or a toxic byproduct from the synthesis.

This is a rather freak occurrence. That is a seriously high strike rate for hospitalisations right there. MMC or methcathinone would not do this otherwise we would see this sort of thing far more often. I cannot see methcathinone causing problems.

I wonder if someone has imported a stim like MDPV, has no idea about the dosage, and made up these capsules with way too much in them. The capsules do not seem too full to me. Looks more like the powder is scattered up the sides.
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I also instantly thought MDPV. However if its confirmed as 4mmc then its hard to say. 4mmc alone shouldn't have dropped anywhere near that many and personally have never heard of an adverse reaction to it in my circles.

MDPV is alot lesser known and more easily imported from my knowlege which would add credibility to its usage in darwin where very little gear makes its way up there from other locations in aus. It'd sound like a very darwin thing to do for some idiot to drop some MDPV into a batch of 4mmc to try and get a longer duration out of it. Could also be why tests came up for 4mmc while if that was the case then these incidents should not have occured.

Thats my guess anyway, and from all reports I get coming out of that town (and I get quite a few) that would be a very feasible idea in the eyes of some of the locals pushing this crap.

Has anyone been brave/stupid enough to attempt a mixer with 4mmc and MDPV? If so, comments would be appreciated for my intrests sake and most likely others to.

EDIT:: My apologies, I misread as 4mmc not Methcathinone. Regardless, that alone should not of produced the results it did if I am correct? Maybe the odd freak occurance, but in numbers this large? Im still betting MDPV as a spike to try and get more legs into the duration of the caps. In which case, anyone tried this combo? Also as a PS. Im not attempting to rag on darwin, I'm also from the country and know fully well that the type of people who run the show in these parts of the world have little respect for their user base, and things like this are not uncommon.
 
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I imagine that would be a real strain on the heart l3inad, it would take someone pretty foolish to attempt it. Might be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black there however, since I was dumb enough to try 2-CB on the same night I first tried MDPV.

I don't have anything against RC's, or poly drug use in the right context, but poly using RC's is a sure fire recipe for disaster. They don't know what these drugs do long term, let alone how they act with one another, it is one thing to experiment but frequent high doses and/or poly using RC's together and/or in conjunction with other recreational drugs is just not smart.
 
drug_mentor said:
I imagine that would be a real strain on the heart l3inad, it would take someone pretty foolish to attempt it. Might be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black there however, since I was dumb enough to try 2-CB on the same night I first tried MDPV.

I don't have anything against RC's, or poly drug use in the right context, but poly using RC's is a sure fire recipe for disaster. They don't know what these drugs do long term, let alone how they act with one another, it is one thing to experiment but frequent high doses and/or poly using RC's together and/or in conjunction with other recreational drugs is just not smart.
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Exactly why I'd suspect it as a likely contaminant. Something has to be seriously off to floor that many teeny boppers. MDPV being as dose dependant as it is could easily lead to such an incident when sold as MD caps on the street. With the large amount of powder present (and tests) obviously it wouldnt have been the main ingredient considering its potency and small amount required. But IMHO it's more than possible for a small amount of MDPV to be added into a mix with another RC (in this case belived to be Methcathinone) to combat the short duration of empathonegenic (spelling) RC's. Even a tiny amount (potentially deemed to low to be significant by un-knowledgeable testers) could have combined to produce these very nasty effects and seems a likely explanation in my eyes for what was a very large scale incident with an extremely high percentage of those who dosed these things running into trouble. This shouldnt happen with just one of the popular RC's being passed off as MD, I highly suspect a combination is in play here and I'm backing MDPV as a likely candidate.

I've heard many horror stories about darwin caps. One particular case included tabs that looked like they had been put through a blender being mixed in with whatever white powder they were capping to add some extra punch to their product. This was only confirmed because one of the bits of mutilated paper found when the caps were opened was actually large enough to identify a print and subsequently ID the tabs involved.
 
L3inad said:
I've heard many horror stories about darwin caps. One particular case included tabs that looked like they had been put through a blender being mixed in with whatever white powder they were capping to add some extra punch to their product. This was only confirmed because one of the bits of mutilated paper found when the caps were opened was actually large enough to identify a print and subsequently ID the tabs involved.
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Woah! your saying they mixed LSD blotter along with random chemicals and capped um?

**Why not just sell the blotter on its own *shrug*, im guessing its cause an MDxx cap goes for XX-XX USD where as a tab of decent L is about X-XUSD

I was thinking; whoever produced these caps better lay low for a bit, and should have used gloves while capping. Cause my bet local LE will be looking for the originator of these caps.






** I am American hence the USD and possible discrepancy in value locally.
 
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