The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation

[Borissey]

This stuff seems rarer than rocking horse shit in the UK. I was wondering, do you have to live underground to get hold of this?

 

[psood0nym]

I tend to require lower doses for drugs than most people though, so for the average person 5mg would do a lot less.

It's funny. The preferable situation is actually one where a person's intake of drugs is kept minimal, yet there's this juvenile and embarrassingly male anonymous culture of online insecure losers who get off on posting about the reckless amount of drugs they've abused as if such proclamations socially validated their existence.

...anyways, congratulations on being sensitive to drugs! You minimize the physiological harm they do this way and a person like you has also gone a long way towards popping out that dent that drugs make in our pocket books.

 

[Morpheus19]

This stuff seems rarer than rocking horse shit in the UK. I was wondering, do you have to live underground to get hold of this?

I've never seen AMT on the street. Anyway, it's not that hard to obtain from the net.

 

[Novice74]

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I dunno about the other 2 questions, but the effects of 5mg were fairly strong for me. I took with some alcohol, so Im not sure if that did anything to potentiate the effects or not. I was very giggely, singing and dancing around. My pupils were slightly dilated. I tend to require lower doses for drugs than most people though, so for the average person 5mg would do a lot less.[/QUOTE]

That sounds promising lol Being in a giggley mood and wanting to sing and dance sounds great to me. Pupil dialation isn't a problem for me since i have very dark eyes and only noticeable if you were extremely close and you knew what you were looking for. I agree with psood0nym i would much rather be very sensitive to any type of drug. Who wants to be able to drink 20 pints before they get drunk or having to take double the amount of substance to get high. Not me i definitely prefer to be sensitive to drugs, they would last twice as long.

P.s thanx for the help petebog. Do you know if the average person could drive and go about there a normal daily schedule on the threshold dose of 5-10mg?

 

[petebog]

P.s thanx for the help petebog. Do you know if the average person could drive and go about there a normal daily schedule on the threshold dose of 5-10mg?

In the interests of harm reduction I could not honestly recommend driving on any amount of any drug.

However, that said, seeing as I seem to be one of the unlucky ones (with psychs anyway) that need a higher dose than many to get the same effects, I doubt 5 - 10mg would be noticeable at all.

As for the average person, it's really hard to say because responses to the same dose of the same drug can vary wildly between different people or even the same person at different times.

Safest option is just not to do it.

 

[Novice74]

In the interests of harm reduction I could not honestly recommend driving on any amount of any drug.

However, that said, seeing as I seem to be one of the unlucky ones (with psychs anyway) that need a higher dose than many to get the same effects, I doubt 5 - 10mg would be noticeable at all.

As for the average person, it's really hard to say because responses to the same dose of the same drug can vary wildly between different people or even the same person at different times.

Safest option is just not to do it.

What im trying to say is that when i find the correct dose that is not trippy but is just a sustained mood lift would the effects also impair my judgement to control a motor vehicle? I know that AMT will effect people in different ways at different thresholds but can you envisage a dose that would give you feeling of well being but not effect your ability to undertake your daily routine?

 

[petebog]

I see what you mean. I think you need to wait for someone more experienced with the drug's range of effects to chime in.

As stated in my first post, this was my first time on aMT.

 

[MrTiHKAL]

I tried this at 30mg orally on Sunday and mainly just felt the heavy body load. No real mood elevation or euphoria and no visuals or psychedelic thoughts.
I did smoke some DMT in low doses (not weighed aound 20mg x3) after around 6 hours and this brought euphoria but no more than spice usually brings.
Tolerance may have been an issue because i took 2x10mg doses on Friday which just gave me a slight body buzz/heavy feeling.
I am wondering if there may be some cross tolerance with DMT as i have been hitting it regularly in the week prior.
Also i haven't noticed any anti-depressant effect in the couple of days since.
Think I will try 40-50mg this weekend after a week of no spice and hope for better results.

 

[Juice23]

Minimum aMT dose for first timers

Sorry if this has been asked a million times before, but i'll be ordering some aMT tomorrow and because of the price i was just going to order .5g. Is this going to be enough for two first time users to experience any euphoria? No real psych use other than a fair few shroomz back in the day

cheers

 

[CatfishRivers]

I only ever needed 50 mg or so to enjoy myself. At that dose, you'd have 10 nice experiences to look forward to. Even at 25 mg the experience is nice, which would give you 20 experiences! In other words, with half a gram, you've got plenty material that should last you several experiences.

 

[Juice23]

Oh shit i got my units wrong lol, g, mg, mcg. Its been a long day! Cheers mate, i'll prob still go with half a g and start with 25mg working up to 50mg. Thanks again mate

 

[Psychonautical]

5mg had me feeling like i just ate 180mg of mdma with a hint of speed in there for show.

once i realized i was comfortable at this level i moved up another 10mg

i had 15mg in my system in total. I was experiencing full LSDesque hallucinations

Melting pictures and beautiful orange and gold spirals dancing on everything that was the color white.

at this point, i couldn't imagine taking 25-40mg

this makes me wonder if there are different isomers of AMT with one of them being more active. This is definately not 5-meo-amt that i have...

The duration from 15mg lasted roughly 10-12 hours.

 

[Psychonautical]

Does anyone know if there are different isomers of AMT or anything like that.
Like one isomer being stronger than the other

I am finding it incredibly interesting that 15mg allowed me to have visuals
while most people are residing in the 25-40mg++ range which i find slightly strange.

this isn't 5-meo-amt that i have, i know that much...

 

[The RZA]

5mg had me feeling like i just ate 180mg of mdma with a hint of speed in there for show.

once i realized i was comfortable at this level i moved up another 10mg

i had 15mg in my system in total. I was experiencing full LSDesque hallucinations

Melting pictures and beautiful orange and gold spirals dancing on everything that was the color white.

at this point, i couldn't imagine taking 25-40mg

this makes me wonder if there are different isomers of AMT with one of them being more active. This is definately not 5-meo-amt that i have...

The duration from 15mg lasted roughly 10-12 hours.

Quite probably. A poster in EADD recently consumed 250mg (yes, 250mg) of aMT and reported nothing like the visuals you describe.

In fact, in our aMT megathread over there, 50/60mg is emerging as a "standard" dose. Even amongst several first timers.

 

[Tunnelfission]

I'm in small supply of AMT, 60 mg and would like to have a good time, explore the substance i'm thinking of chopping the dose in half so I only orally injest roughly 25-35 hopefully 30 mg of AMT, also if that dose is worthwhile, squeezing two doses out of it.

So far I am just plain concerned about the MAO portion of it being a subject a have only root knowledge about that type of drug reaction and tend to use CWE with codiene often enough that I may like to on the come down or at the end of the AMT trip. I usually use 20-24, 8mg codeine 15 caff 300 acetaminophen tablets, so roughly 160-200 mg of codiene and twice that caffeine 320-400 mg. I usually drink half, then 3-4 hours later the other half

I'm just wondering if this is safe, or worthwhile as I do worry about post comedown headaches and I've heard that specifically opiates and MAO is possible yet dangerous territory. also it's becoming ritual at the end of certain trips to get a little dopie and smoke some bowls.

Just tend towards headaches, and they really piss me off so I want to know if I can fight it if it comes.

so how safe it is to take post dose opiate, 6-10 hours after injestion of 30 mg AMT?

thank you pros!

 

[Bare_head]

i am really pleased to have my beloved amt back and i am definately not abusing it like last time! i find this stuff quite strong, being the hcl, i cant really put my finger on it but it feels a little smoother tho the come up still has that kick !!

my scales have broke unfortunately i do have some old, 0.01 scales which might help me weigh out say like 20-30 mg but i loved weighing out a measly 7 mg and sprinkling it on my cornflakes :D ,, it was my anti depressant !

 

[lineartransform]

One important consideration - I assume the 50mg "standard" dose is oral. Are you referring to smoked doses Psychonautical?

 

[love_sex_desire]

5mg had me feeling like i just ate 180mg of mdma with a hint of speed in there for show.

once i realized i was comfortable at this level i moved up another 10mg

i had 15mg in my system in total. I was experiencing full LSDesque hallucinations

Melting pictures and beautiful orange and gold spirals dancing on everything that was the color white.

at this point, i couldn't imagine taking 25-40mg

this makes me wonder if there are different isomers of AMT with one of them being more active. This is definately not 5-meo-amt that i have...

The duration from 15mg lasted roughly 10-12 hours.

Are you using the grey hydrochloride, or the possibly slightly yellow freebase?

 

[I NUK3D U]

The grey HCL going around is best at a dose of 40mg-60mg, consumed orally.

However, one brave individualy (as mentioned above) did consumer 250mg over a 24 hour period. Had this been in one dose, I think we may have seen a slightly different result.

Empty stomach important on this one though. Any heavy carbs in your stomach is going to slow down the rate of absorbtion and a 50mg dose will feel like consecutive 10mg doses. IE. not reaching nearly the visual potential associated with such an amount.

 

[Juice23]

The grey HCL going around is best at a dose of 40mg-60mg, consumed orally.

However, one brave individualy (as mentioned above) did consumer 250mg over a 24 hour period. Had this been in one dose, I think we may have seen a slightly different result.

Empty stomach important on this one though. Any heavy carbs in your stomach is going to slow down the rate of absorbtion and a 50mg dose will feel like consecutive 10mg doses. IE. not reaching nearly the visual potential associated with such an amount.

Would an empty stomach help with nausea or is it unavoidable? And if i go with 10mg increments working up to 50mg so to avoid as much nausea as possible, how quickly should i take each dose? I don't want too big a gaps in between as i still want the full effect without chucking or feeling like shit initially. Cheers