Shakti
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quick answer:
put the hydrochloride in distilled water. basify the solution. extract with non-polar solvent. remove solvent (evaporate, distill off in oil bath, or rotovape, etc.) leaving freebase.
The Big and Dandy AMT Thread - 2nd incarnation
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quick answer:
put the hydrochloride in distilled water. basify the solution. extract with non-polar solvent. remove solvent (evaporate, distill off in oil bath, or rotovape, etc.) leaving freebase.
Dr Mamba
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quicker answer :
put the hydrochloride in your pipe
add 1 drop of amoniac
warm with a lighter to evaporate amoniac and water
smoke
put the hydrochloride in your pipe
add 1 drop of amoniac
warm with a lighter to evaporate amoniac and water
smoke
Scoobysnacks
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just ordered some amt, gonna book off next monday at work and take around 6 pm sunday evening( next week), i feel sick thinking about how high im gonna be, gonna stik with this from now on 
Vurtual
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just ordered some amt, gonna book off next monday at work and take around 6 pm sunday evening( next week), i feel sick thinking about how high im gonna be, gonna stik with this from now on
Hey scooby - my suggestion is to start with at least 30 mg (unless you've never done psychs before) - i found lower than this was a nice trippy feeling, but only when i did 35mg did the lovely euphoria/stimulation become predominant
My next go is 45mg - i have to work my way up whatever anyone tells me (maybe you do to)
- anyway, got to be better than the blasted clear caps eh
Scoobysnacks
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#Hey scooby - my suggestion is to start with at least 30 mg (unless you've never done psychs before) - i found lower than this was a nice trippy feeling, but only when i did 35mg did the lovely euphoria/stimulation become predominant
My next go is 45mg - i have to work my way up whatever anyone tells me (maybe you do to)
- anyway, got to be better than the blasted clear caps eh
hey Virtual, read lots of reports around 50 haha, i will be smoking weed throughout and the consensus is weed + amt = awesomeness, so i gonna go 40 mg first time, thanks for the heads up mate
I will finally be able to try what sounds like an amazing substance, judging by reports both on here and elsewhere I have heard.
In the interests of harm reduction I will be working my way up in dosage. I'm seeing around 25mg avg to be rated as a good first dose (Erowid suggests a threshold dose for a new user; 5-15mg). I have tried various psychedelics and stimulants in the past but would still class myself as below average in experience to some others. Would 25mg be advisable, I have seen this is a recommended dosage for an MDMA like experience (as close as comparisons between the two can drawn anyway) where in the same context 40-50mg for the same type of experience was unadvised as at that dosage level the trip became much more visual and largely psychedelically based. I have a big night planned next week so in taking a smaller dosage tonight I would have clearer judgement and understanding of how much to take next week for the setting; it may even turn out as I have been reading that 20-25mg level would be perfect.
I am wondering if 25mg taken tonight, the setting would be alone with music, is advisable for a first experience with this substance or if a lower dosage would be more recommended, say at threshold level? That said Vurtual's recommendation of 30-35mg sounds very promising for a first experience.
Prior to today I did a small allergy test in the amount of approx 1-2mg for harm reduction and although it more than likely was a placebo effect, I did feel and experience low euphoria, feelings of well being and slight visual enhancement. At this dose level I would say it was most definitely placebo (it would certainly be the first I have heard about aMT being active at such a low dose).
In the interests of harm reduction I will be working my way up in dosage. I'm seeing around 25mg avg to be rated as a good first dose (Erowid suggests a threshold dose for a new user; 5-15mg). I have tried various psychedelics and stimulants in the past but would still class myself as below average in experience to some others. Would 25mg be advisable, I have seen this is a recommended dosage for an MDMA like experience (as close as comparisons between the two can drawn anyway) where in the same context 40-50mg for the same type of experience was unadvised as at that dosage level the trip became much more visual and largely psychedelically based. I have a big night planned next week so in taking a smaller dosage tonight I would have clearer judgement and understanding of how much to take next week for the setting; it may even turn out as I have been reading that 20-25mg level would be perfect.
I am wondering if 25mg taken tonight, the setting would be alone with music, is advisable for a first experience with this substance or if a lower dosage would be more recommended, say at threshold level? That said Vurtual's recommendation of 30-35mg sounds very promising for a first experience.
Prior to today I did a small allergy test in the amount of approx 1-2mg for harm reduction and although it more than likely was a placebo effect, I did feel and experience low euphoria, feelings of well being and slight visual enhancement. At this dose level I would say it was most definitely placebo (it would certainly be the first I have heard about aMT being active at such a low dose).
Im sure somewhere on bluelight I read that drinking alcohol whilst on AMT is perfectly fine, but I can't find that post at the moment so Ill ask anyway. Is drinking fine whilst on AMT?
Could just 5mg of AMT spice up a night of drinking, safely?
Could just 5mg of AMT spice up a night of drinking, safely?
InternetMuse
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Not sure about the medical scientific answer - but in my experience drinking has been no problem and can also help keep the peak going for a bit longer (if you need it) as well as reduce anxiety on the comeup.
When I trip I like it to last a whole 24hrs if possible, so I redose and drink. This weekend, for example, did 40mg -> 20mg -> 20mg and drank about 12 beers over 24 hours. Felt great, and no hangover either although I obviously spread the beers out quite a bit.
Awesome, cheers. I took the 5mg and I feel really good. It is keeping the euphoria I get after having a couple of beers going. I feel my thought pattern is enhanced too, rather than decreased.
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No problems were encountered. But I have now taken AMT 3 times (25mg, 15mg and 5mg), but I don't think its for me. The first 5 hours are great, but then my body starts to get uncomfortable and I become really really tired.
EDIT:
No problems were encountered. But I have now taken AMT 3 times (25mg, 15mg and 5mg), but I don't think its for me. The first 5 hours are great, but then my body starts to get uncomfortable and I become really really tired.
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retard
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Hey scooby - my suggestion is to start with at least 30 mg (unless you've never done psychs before) - i found lower than this was a nice trippy feeling, but only when i did 35mg did the lovely euphoria/stimulation become predominant
My next go is 45mg - i have to work my way up whatever anyone tells me (maybe you do to)
- anyway, got to be better than the blasted clear caps eh
I tried this for the first time on Saturday at 30mg as I'd read this was a light dose. Have to say no euphoria, just a light feeling of 'trippyness' and very slight morphing of people's faces.
Was thinking of going straight up to 50mg next, though will probably pussy out and do 40mg first - I'm usually very cautious with new substances.
I tried some aMT just last night and had a very similar experience to the post above me.
Took what was approx 10mg, dissolved in water, last meal eaten approx 3 hours prior, around 6pm. I experienced some placebo like effects; general content feeling, enhanced tactile response, slight visual enhancement. When very little appeared to be happening I waited approx 2.5 hours (as this substance can take 2-3 hours to fully develop) and took an additional approx 20-25mg, dissolved in water, around 8:30pm. Within 30 mins there was a slight enhancement of the placebo like effects experienced earlier, music sounded a little better. Around 9:30 or so visual effects started to manifest, first noticed was the slight moving of objects around me, my computer monitor for example seemed to rise up and move around behind my back in a darkened room. Slight notion of shadows moving and other objects noticed while walking stated to feel very light and strange. Music still sounded good, but by no means stunning. Sitting down very faint feelings of pleasant body sensations and mild rushes presented themselves every now and again. Around two hours following this the visual effects started to intensify. Checking my eyes in the mirror showed pupil dilation. The room appeared to mildly morph and appear bigger than it was, the music was loud so set a center piece for everything around it. Again though it was by no means incredible sounding. My head began to be filled with crazy thoughts and at times the feeling could be described as more of a delirious effect, albeit with very slight nausea. Walking around became to feel very dream like and surreal. Every time checking my pupils almost full dilation was present.
Around 2 hours later I decided to lie down and over the next couple of hours the visuals intensified. Closing my eyes the CEV's took the form of awesome kaleidoscopic patterns. As time went on the state of looking from a lying down position on my side outward seemed to switch from almost normal to trippy and mild - medium visual effect. Trials seemed to be apparent and as my eyes switched from one object to another the previous appeared in an after image. Looking directly up at the ceiling was the most visual. The corners of the walls and ceiling morphed and twisted and rippled in a real fucking trippy way!
Generally the visual effects formed the experience, although by no means incredible, they were certainly interesting and entertaining. Although my general mood was fairly fatigued, at times I thought about getting up to walk around the house or put on some music but it never materialized past a thought in my mind. Almost all the time crazy tripped out thoughts running through my head. There was a interesting event around the 5-6 hour mark or so where time and everything around me seemed to slow down but I myself was in normal motion. This only lasted for around a second though. I must have fell asleep after this point as very little else is remembered. A very slight spun out feeling today but nothing too bad.
In conclusion this was a visual trip but with very little of the euphoria and wellbeing and empathy (pretty much absent on all counts) as others have experienced, even at this dose level.
Very interested to experience the dose level that is giving people mdma like feelings of euphoria, music appreciation and empathy. Will probably try 40mg next time. I would have to say I was disappointed for a first time, generally though this could be down to the dose level and not forgetting how set could factor into the experience.
Really don't know if I should take it for my big music event next week in fear of the experience being disappointing again, although that said the other alternative is methylone which won't have the duration I am after, even with a re-dose.
Took what was approx 10mg, dissolved in water, last meal eaten approx 3 hours prior, around 6pm. I experienced some placebo like effects; general content feeling, enhanced tactile response, slight visual enhancement. When very little appeared to be happening I waited approx 2.5 hours (as this substance can take 2-3 hours to fully develop) and took an additional approx 20-25mg, dissolved in water, around 8:30pm. Within 30 mins there was a slight enhancement of the placebo like effects experienced earlier, music sounded a little better. Around 9:30 or so visual effects started to manifest, first noticed was the slight moving of objects around me, my computer monitor for example seemed to rise up and move around behind my back in a darkened room. Slight notion of shadows moving and other objects noticed while walking stated to feel very light and strange. Music still sounded good, but by no means stunning. Sitting down very faint feelings of pleasant body sensations and mild rushes presented themselves every now and again. Around two hours following this the visual effects started to intensify. Checking my eyes in the mirror showed pupil dilation. The room appeared to mildly morph and appear bigger than it was, the music was loud so set a center piece for everything around it. Again though it was by no means incredible sounding. My head began to be filled with crazy thoughts and at times the feeling could be described as more of a delirious effect, albeit with very slight nausea. Walking around became to feel very dream like and surreal. Every time checking my pupils almost full dilation was present.
Around 2 hours later I decided to lie down and over the next couple of hours the visuals intensified. Closing my eyes the CEV's took the form of awesome kaleidoscopic patterns. As time went on the state of looking from a lying down position on my side outward seemed to switch from almost normal to trippy and mild - medium visual effect. Trials seemed to be apparent and as my eyes switched from one object to another the previous appeared in an after image. Looking directly up at the ceiling was the most visual. The corners of the walls and ceiling morphed and twisted and rippled in a real fucking trippy way!
Generally the visual effects formed the experience, although by no means incredible, they were certainly interesting and entertaining. Although my general mood was fairly fatigued, at times I thought about getting up to walk around the house or put on some music but it never materialized past a thought in my mind. Almost all the time crazy tripped out thoughts running through my head. There was a interesting event around the 5-6 hour mark or so where time and everything around me seemed to slow down but I myself was in normal motion. This only lasted for around a second though. I must have fell asleep after this point as very little else is remembered. A very slight spun out feeling today but nothing too bad.
In conclusion this was a visual trip but with very little of the euphoria and wellbeing and empathy (pretty much absent on all counts) as others have experienced, even at this dose level.
Very interested to experience the dose level that is giving people mdma like feelings of euphoria, music appreciation and empathy. Will probably try 40mg next time. I would have to say I was disappointed for a first time, generally though this could be down to the dose level and not forgetting how set could factor into the experience.
Really don't know if I should take it for my big music event next week in fear of the experience being disappointing again, although that said the other alternative is methylone which won't have the duration I am after, even with a re-dose.
Psychonautical
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Wow.
Alright, this stuff is as good as platinum.
I took 5mg of 11:30.
First effects Noted at 12:30.
A slightly stimulated, relaxing feeling of overwhelming happiness looms on the horizon.
I decide that this stuff is relatively safe, so i take 10 more mg.
by 1:30 The painting in my living room has taken on a life of its own.
it melts down the wall when i don't look at it directly, and it springs back up when i do. The fog is also rolling across the landscape in the painting. The puddles in it, also ripple.
Music makes me feel like i am about to fall into a DMT hole
when music gets incredibly intense, i almost feel like i am going to white out.
My roommates and i are having lots of very philosophical and open minded discussions about everything.
4:30am
We decide to watch the movie
U-turn by Oliver Stone, as my roommates have not seen it.
The other name of the movie should be Oliver Stones "Why you shouldn't be mean to Cats." ^.^ if you've seen it, you'd understand.
No actual mind fuck noted. No really intense introspection about the universe or the powers that be, just a wholehearted lift from the depression i'd been experiencing mixed with slight LSD visuals.
i can't wait to experience this stuff with my girlfriend.
I have a feeling shes going to love it.
Alright, this stuff is as good as platinum.
I took 5mg of 11:30.
First effects Noted at 12:30.
A slightly stimulated, relaxing feeling of overwhelming happiness looms on the horizon.
I decide that this stuff is relatively safe, so i take 10 more mg.
by 1:30 The painting in my living room has taken on a life of its own.
it melts down the wall when i don't look at it directly, and it springs back up when i do. The fog is also rolling across the landscape in the painting. The puddles in it, also ripple.
Music makes me feel like i am about to fall into a DMT hole
when music gets incredibly intense, i almost feel like i am going to white out.
My roommates and i are having lots of very philosophical and open minded discussions about everything.
4:30am
We decide to watch the movie
U-turn by Oliver Stone, as my roommates have not seen it.
The other name of the movie should be Oliver Stones "Why you shouldn't be mean to Cats." ^.^ if you've seen it, you'd understand.
No actual mind fuck noted. No really intense introspection about the universe or the powers that be, just a wholehearted lift from the depression i'd been experiencing mixed with slight LSD visuals.
i can't wait to experience this stuff with my girlfriend.
I have a feeling shes going to love it.
Hello, i was wondering if somebody could help me with a few questions, i have some AMT arriving from the UK this week.
1: Im after a long lasting mood lift that would not be obvious to the average person, what would be a suggested dose and how long can i expect this mood lift to last?
2: If im on a small dose(mood lift) am i able to consume a fair bit of alcohol...say about 6-8 bottles of beer?
3: Am i likely to experience nausea on a small dose-is the nausea dose Dependent(the more you take the more likely u will experience nausea?).
4: I currently take some 5htp and mucuna pruriens, should i stop taking these if i use AMT?
My aim is to take AMT as well being drug, don't want any visuals or to get fucked up. At worst the feeling you would get from a decent dose of methylone but ideally just a long lasting mood lift where you just feel good in yourself an inner warmth.
Thank you for any help that can be forwarded
1: Im after a long lasting mood lift that would not be obvious to the average person, what would be a suggested dose and how long can i expect this mood lift to last?
2: If im on a small dose(mood lift) am i able to consume a fair bit of alcohol...say about 6-8 bottles of beer?
3: Am i likely to experience nausea on a small dose-is the nausea dose Dependent(the more you take the more likely u will experience nausea?).
4: I currently take some 5htp and mucuna pruriens, should i stop taking these if i use AMT?
My aim is to take AMT as well being drug, don't want any visuals or to get fucked up. At worst the feeling you would get from a decent dose of methylone but ideally just a long lasting mood lift where you just feel good in yourself an inner warmth.
Thank you for any help that can be forwarded
1. Supposedly around 5mg would give a threshold effect, but I tried that last night and got fairly strong effects, which was taken 7 hours before I went to bed.
2. Drinking alcohol is fine whilst on it, though your desire to drink alcohol will be lowered
3. When taken on an empty stomach, I feel very little nausea, but for each dose I have taken (ranging from 5-25mg) the nausea has been about the same
2. Drinking alcohol is fine whilst on it, though your desire to drink alcohol will be lowered
3. When taken on an empty stomach, I feel very little nausea, but for each dose I have taken (ranging from 5-25mg) the nausea has been about the same
if you'll look at those numbers again you'll find that the values are quite different from methamphetamine but almost identical to mdma (in fact there's no statistically significant difference).
for instance methamphetamine is 10x more potent at releasing dopamine than amt while amt is in turn 10x more potent at releasing serotonin than meth.
I've heard that aMT is quite susceptible to degradation by light and heat (as I believe all trytamines are?). Mine came in two black baggies which seems to back that up. I'm keeping it in the freezer to be on the safe side as it may be a fair while before I use it all.
Morpheus19
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Did somebody ever experience a great antidepressant effect the days after taking AMT?
I was doing a lot of drugs at a festival (mephedrone, amphetamin) and a combination of AMT (40mg) + Metyhlone (300mg) in the last night.
The Trip was fucking crazy, but the main point is that I felt totally great the next days, although I must have felt LIKE SHIT for weeks, as I do normally after festivals.
I was doing a lot of drugs at a festival (mephedrone, amphetamin) and a combination of AMT (40mg) + Metyhlone (300mg) in the last night.
The Trip was fucking crazy, but the main point is that I felt totally great the next days, although I must have felt LIKE SHIT for weeks, as I do normally after festivals.
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