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2C-E: Good or bad first psych experience?

Seattle_Stranger

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Aside from a couple salvia trips (which I thoroughly enjoyed), I have no psychedelic experience. I've eaten mushrooms 3 times, once not enough, another time only enough to feel like I took a hit or two of weed, and a third time they were inactive (lost potency). Never had LSD or anything close. I've had MDMA a handful of times, habitually smoke weed and dabblage in this and that, but no psychs.

A friend handed me some 2C-E last night. He clearly explained to me this is not so much a party/have fun drug as it is an experience/self-exploration one. He also recommended I probably should trip on shrooms first before I dive into this stuff. He also warned that dosage is extremely important and anything over 15mg is probably a bad idea.

I'm intrigued, but being very cautious. I want opinions from 2C-E users. Does the majority agree that 2C-E would be a bad first psych experience? I know different drugs effect different people in different ways, so simply going off one person's opinion isn't enough for me. I've read a lot of trip reports, and some of them seem to agree with my friend, and others describe a near-MDMA like experience.

Would a lower dosage produce subtle effects like pretty lights, trails, maybe some light OEV's? Or does this stuff just make you trip out no matter what? I liked salvia in the sense that it puts you into another dimension, but not for very long. I don't think I would like to be 'stuck' there for hours. Does this stuff make you completely incoherent?

I know, UTFSE, and I did, and I've been all over Erowid's trip reports but I simply want to actually have a conversation with some people about it. I'm even cool with having an IM chat with some experienced users.

Here's some of the questions I have:

  • Insufflation or capsule? I'm thinking capsule first time, maybe up the shnoz once I'm experienced. Yes, I've heard it burns.
  • Reccomended set and setting? A good mind state, obviously, but what about surroundings? For example, one of my first times on MDMA we strung rainbow chasing christmas lights all around the house, and it was the best idea ever. Should I do anything like this for some cool visuals?
  • Would it be a better idea to trip with just me and a trusted trip sitter? Or would it be best to trip with other people on the drug, along with a sober trip sitter?
  • I read a pretty positive trip report where they were smoking weed the whole time. Good idea? What about mixing it with benzos to curb any possible anxiety? I have a mountain of k-pins at my disposal so if benzos are a good mix with this, I'm covered.
  • I heard MDMA is a good mix with this stuff, but for those who've experienced both, what's best? MDMA alone, or mixed with 2C-E?
  • What is the come-down like?
  • Has anyone noticed after effects? Tuesday syndrome? Depression? Etc..
  • I understand LSD can be a life-changing experience. I feel my last roll on MDMA (about 7 months ago) was life-changing, for the better. I became much more sensitive to feelings and in touch with other people. Is this stuff like that?
  • Any other trip-tips?
  • Anyone feel like PM'ing me their IM screenname for a one-on-one chat about it?


Thank you all very much in advance. :)
 
2c-e should be a fine first psych experience. Dosage under 15 mg is important. You probably don't want to get super stoned the whole time, it might make it a bit too much. The more you decorate your space the better, but that's just generally true anyway. A trip sitter's probably a good idea but with 15mg doses you could probably do fine with several trippers. There shouldn't be any after-effects. Benzos should be unnecessary but if things get to be too much they're useful to have around. This can absolutely change your life but it also might not be a wild breakthrough experience.

You'll do great as long as you pay attention, and you don't have any serious life issues going on right now.
 
Here's some of the answers I have:

  • Insufflation or capsule? I'm thinking capsule first time, maybe up the shnoz once I'm experienced. Yes, I've heard it burns. Oral or rectal - snorting is a bad idea, in my opinion. Unbelievably painful and no fun at all.
  • Reccomended set and setting? A good mind state, obviously, but what about surroundings? For example, one of my first times on MDMA we strung rainbow chasing christmas lights all around the house, and it was the best idea ever. Should I do anything like this for some cool visuals? Whatever floats yer boat. I've never bothered with such things but if they were there I'd probably ooooh and aaaah over them like anyone else.
  • Would it be a better idea to trip with just me and a trusted trip sitter? Or would it be best to trip with other people on the drug, along with a sober trip sitter? I'd say no sitter required - there's little headfuck, in my experience, and it's physically safe so you you should be fine. Other trippers are often a boon but not required - it's a good one for solo experiences. I find sober people make me uncomfortable when tripping but maybe that's just me.
  • I read a pretty positive trip report where they were smoking weed the whole time. Good idea? What about mixing it with benzos to curb any possible anxiety? I have a mountain of k-pins at my disposal so if benzos are a good mix with this, I'm covered. I'd avoid benzos unless absolutely required but they shouldn't be. If you like weed smoke weed, if not don't. It will likely potentiate the 2C-E though so take it slow until you get a feel for it if you do smoke.
  • I heard MDMA is a good mix with this stuff, but for those who've experienced both, what's best? MDMA alone, or mixed with 2C-E? I haven't enjoyed any combos with other stims/psyches but have heard it's amazing with MDMA. Not first time though ideally.
  • What is the come-down like? There isn't one.
  • Has anyone noticed after effects? Tuesday syndrome? Depression? Etc.. Nope. Nice afterglow though.
  • I understand LSD can be a life-changing experience. I feel my last roll on MDMA (about 7 months ago) was life-changing, for the better. I became much more sensitive to feelings and in touch with other people. Is this stuff like that? It certainly can be but it can also not be in the slightest. Subsequent 2C-E trips will be equally varied. It's often compared with LSD though - more "depth" than most other 2C-x
  • Any other trip-tips? Don't overdo it cos it's strong stuff. Have fun :)
  • Anyone feel like PM'ing me their IM screenname for a one-on-one chat about it? I don't use IM but somebody else may well do.
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Enjoy :)
 
I guess it would be a good first trip. 2c-e, for me, wasn't nearly as psychologically impactful as mushrooms or mescaline (or even salvia). The most I get from it is intense closed eye visuals (colored trails and dots mostly) and a nasty body load. I didn't notice any depression, hangover, or even any change (positively or negatively) in my mindset the next day: it is the same as getting a good night's rest.

Dosage is extremely important. I weighed out my dose, poured it into some liquid and drank it. Come-up took a while this way, but I refuse to stick anything up my nose...

As far as first trips: you aren't going to be scared away or blown away either. If you've done salvia and broken through, you might be underwhelmed by the experience. For me at least, it wasn't really my idea of the archetypal 'psychedelic' experience. You might appreciate the experience before you get totally mind-fucked by shrooms or LSD. I'd also suggest mescaline in the future.
 
OP read the current PD social thread (its at the top of PD)
start at page one and you'll see all my posts are while im full immersed tripping on 2c-e for the first time.

dose was 16-20mg oral.
 
Somebody over on Zoklet had their first trip ever on 2c-E.
I've done 2c-E a handful of times, I would say it's safe for a first trip!
How much 2c-E is in your capsule? Definitely eat it, infact mix it with juice and drink it over the course of a half hour, this will help your body adjust to the chemical and you are less likely to experience negative physical effects/discomfort.
When I read the wiki entry for 2c-e while on 2c-e, I felt it was so true.
Basically you should not get emotional no matter what you think, you will most likely be very analytical and feel extremely content, even when thinking about things that would make you cry on LSD.
Find a good set, setting, and time to do it. I hope to read a trip report from you.
 
SpicyBrownMustar said:
Somebody over on Zoklet had their first trip ever on 2c-E.
I've done 2c-E a handful of times, I would say it's safe for a first trip!
How much 2c-E is in your capsule? Definitely eat it, infact mix it with juice and drink it over the course of a half hour, this will help your body adjust to the chemical and you are less likely to experience negative physical effects/discomfort.
When I read the wiki entry for 2c-e while on 2c-e, I felt it was so true.
Basically you should not get emotional no matter what you think, you will most likely be very analytical and feel extremely content, even when thinking about things that would make you cry on LSD.
Find a good set, setting, and time to do it. I hope to read a trip report from you.
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i agree with everything you said.
i was reading PiHKAL while on it, and went to the entry for 2c-e. made me giggle.
shulgin has a good sense of humour and a great writing style.
i also specifically went into the dark part of my mind, as i do from time to time,
to play with the freaky faces and the "negative" spirits.
only they aint negative, just crazy and misunderstood :/
 
I would recommend 2c-i instead, but if you happen to have 2c-e, just try to make sure you dont take too much. 2ce in most opinions is a stronger body load and can be more profound than 2c-i is euphoric. but 2c-e is very nice and your first time should def be stronger than subsequent doses, relatively. Id take 15mg your first time and it should be good.

Have a good setting that you can be comfortable, IMO i dont like being away from a couch/bed during comeup, but the rest of the time its not really an issue.
 
2C-I is a little easier for the untrained mind...

Went a little wild on 2C-E the other night. I was carefully put to bed after I was found wondering through a forest wrapped in a blanket. Too much too soon!
 
Several people I know ate 20-23mg of 2c-i for their first time.

A couple were incapable of speech, but all subjects enjoyed the experience intensely and were completely enthusiastic about trying it again at some point.
 
I've heard/read that tryptamines are much better for the inexperienced.
Kind of like comparing LSD/Shrooms(tryptamines) to Peyote(mescaline(phens)).... right? I would much rather try mushrooms before I eat cactus... I think....
 
Sega420 said:
OP read the current PD social thread (its at the top of PD)
start at page one and you'll see all my posts are while im full immersed tripping on 2c-e for the first time.

dose was 16-20mg oral.
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I'm not seeing what you're talking about. I scanned the first few pages, and any of your posts all seem....normal. You spoke nothing of 2C-E....

Unless the point you're trying to make is that you can be completely normal while on 2C-E.

If I'm in the wrong place, linky plz? %)
 
i agree, the 'standard' tryptamines (shrooms, lsd, dmt) are much more suitable for beginners because they are far more predictable in dose and effects, and give the user a good broad taste of a full spectrum psychedelic experience.

IME the phens can be more 'fun' and recreational, which means if you have tons of experience with them you might not be prepared for the depth of a high dose mushroom trip... add to that the unpredictable dose-response and body-load reaction that most people get with phens and they are really best kept for people who have a couple trips under their belt.

that being said, i think any psych could be perfect for a first time. 2c-e was my first phen and i loved every bit of it after the strange come-up.

be sure you have something to let out all the excess energy it's going to release. dance, shower, make love, whatever.
 
Seattle_Stranger said:
I'm not seeing what you're talking about. I scanned the first few pages, and any of your posts all seem....normal. You spoke nothing of 2C-E....

Unless the point you're trying to make is that you can be completely normal while on 2C-E.

If I'm in the wrong place, linky plz? %)
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normal on it? no :P

it "starts" on page 4 of the social, and "ends" on page 8.
i implore you to read ALL of my posts from page 4 to page 8.
you will see exactly what i mean =D

lemme know what you think once you're done bro
 
SpicyBrownMustar said:
I've heard/read that tryptamines are much better for the inexperienced.
Kind of like comparing LSD/Shrooms(tryptamines) to Peyote(mescaline(phens)).... right? I would much rather try mushrooms before I eat cactus... I think....
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wrong.
 
Sega420 said:
normal on it? no :P

it "starts" on page 4 of the social, and "ends" on page 8.
i implore you to read ALL of my posts from page 4 to page 8.
you will see exactly what i mean =D

lemme know what you think once you're done bro
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and in case you want to try mescaline, read my posts in the same range =D
 
^it was indeed a good night.
i remember you asking me if i was high or tripping cos of my "far out" knowledge ;)

see u in the social, Changed :D
 
Done. Interesting read. Half the time you seem perfectly normal and sociable, other times you seem like you're tripping balls.

I also read how you wouldn't do it again for recreation, I'm interest as to why you said this.

Anything you'd like to add about your experience? You've got my attention. :)
 
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