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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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^ opiates are what i just quit 8)

maybe move to canada and self medicate with codeine. i really tihnk i'm more a patient than addict with em

our medical "professionals" see it differently

i was thinking piracetam or another nootropic
 
PendulumAM said:
I was snorting the 1/2 pill all at once in the morning. I actually haven't taken any suboxene yet today (my last dose was yesterday morning), I don't feel sick and I'm wondering how long I can go without it...
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Well, wait as long as you can. And when you do go to take it, just start with half (2mg) instead of 4.

Also, do you do them under the tounge or shoot/snort? I snort mine and find I have to do almost twice as much if I were to take them sublingually. So maybe you would like to try and snort 2mg, if you don't already do so. Many people, including myself, get better results this way. So that's something to think about too.
 
qwe said:
^ opiates are what i just quit 8)
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Yeah, I know. I really find that getting off opiates goes much smoother if you ease off, though. You won't reset your addiction with a 15mg dose of hydrocodone to ease symptoms, for example...

(I have tried piracetam, and if you didn't find kratom helpful, I find it hard to believe that you will find piracetam to be...)
 
^ Correct. However it is a viable method to do, and for someone looking to taper with limited amount of pills should at least give it a shot. Many people are unaware of the fact that suboxone can be snorted or shot, and both methods are much better in terms of BA% and getting the most bang for your buck out of your pills.
 
I get 100 doses out of an 8mg pill. %)

Since tapering to 80mcg doses I feel a bit more achy after working out, but nothing out of the normal. I plan on tapering even lower as time goes on. I think my next step will be 5 or 10 mcg lower.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I get 100 doses out of an 8mg pill. %)

Since tapering to 80mcg doses I feel a bit more achy after working out, but nothing out of the normal. I plan on tapering even lower as time goes on. I think my next step will be 5 or 10 mcg lower.
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as my mentor i speak this with respect and not with the mindset that i know more than you-i think if your getting achy than you have lowered your dose to low. what was wrong with 100mcg? i thought you were going to stay on that dose for a while. but if you are planning on tapering down low in order to come off subs than i agree with what you're doing, but for maintenance i think you should stick at 100mcg as your maintenance dose.
just my advice %)
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
as my mentor i speak this with respect and not with the mindset that i know more than you-i think if your getting achy than you have lowered your dose to low. what was wrong with 100mcg? i thought you were going to stay on that dose for a while. but if you are planning on tapering down low in order to come off subs than i agree with what you're doing, but for maintenance i think you should stick at 100mcg as your maintenance dose.
just my advice %)
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I went to the gym so I'm not surprised I'm aching. It's just that the buprenorphine doesn't relieve the aching as much. It doesn't bother me at all - I'm not actually complaining about it.

It's not a muscular ache that hurts to me. A charlie horse, that hurts. But working out a lot, the next day "aching" is pleasurable to me. Buprenorphine used to minimize it when I was using more per shot.

I tapered down because ... well I'll PM you about this situation.

What everyone can know about this is that I planned on tapering down gradually, and then without knowing went from 160 mcg to 86 mcg (approximately) - I messed up on the math. Since then I tapered up (to reduce how many times I was using) and then gradually back down again.

There's another issue which compounds all of this - check your inbox in T - 2 minutes. ;)
 
so yesterday I didn't take my 1/2 suboxene in the morning like I usually did. I decided to fool around with my sisters Strattera (I'm home from college and so bored, I'm lucky I don't know any dope connects here or else I bet I would be doing it again). I took 2 Strattera (which is an ADHD med but much weaker than Adderall or Ritalin). I didn't really feel anything from doing those, and then I snorted my 1/2 suboxene around 4 pm. After that I actually felt really good, a lot better than I've ever felt on bupe. It was really nice and then I actually started nodding later. Now I'm wondering if it was the combo of the ADD meds and subs that made me feel like that, or just because I haven't been taking subs that long (only since Sunday the 6th) and I had spaced out my suboxene dose?

I would love to try shooting my subs but I don't really have a way to get a micron filter, and I don't know which pharmacies around town will sell rigs (back in Florida I could always get them at Target but there is no Target in this stupid small town!)
 
straterra is made to help attention without causing "fun" like amphets. that was sorta silly to take her meds, esp since its strattera

that aside, strattera effects norepinephrine, mildly stimulates ya (and marketed as a nonstimulating drug, lol). it takes up to a week for you to feel its effect. but it is POSSIBLE that the extra norepinephrine activity from the strattera influenced your suboxone high

more likely though, it was a nod you could have obtained without the extra pills
 
so I switched from shooting .8 mcg sub to snorting 1 mg for the last week. I plan on probably switching back to I.V tomorrow but figure my tolerance is lower now due to switched ROA. Would it be safe to say that 1mg insufflated = .5 mg I.V? I'm thinking about dosing myself at 100 micrograms
5 times a day, does this seem like a an accurate dosing plan?
 
Is there anything that can compare to the feeling of bupe? Is it anything like methadone? I want to try it, but the thing is I have a really small habit atm. Basically, I am fully detoxed, but I am scared that I will relapse again anyway, and I think it might be good as an antidepressant/mood stabilizer for me. Is it anything like the boring fentanyl high? Does it make the brain foggy?

Is it retarded of me to get on bupe even though I am pretty much through this bout of detox? Thanks *****

Oh and could anyone tell I was on it? I don't want anyone to know, and my friend/family are very keen as to my use.
 
bupe is like bupe.. try it out.
not too helpful but i cant think of anything it is like other than itself.
yes, if you have no opiates in your system it will get you high, pin point pupils and all.. kinda like a full agonist.
 
Imagine being high, and then taking a pill that makes you sober. That is how bupe feels. It's nothing near methadone. Bupe is a partial antagonist (agonist), while methadone & other opiates are a full antagonist (agonist?).

Bupe is a wonderful tool to use to stay clean and learn how to live a "sober" life. Bupe w/d can be long if you drop off at a high dose, so if you take it, stay at a low dose under 2mg daily, and taper down as much as you can. But you said your w/d are close to over so it may not be smart starting bupe, but by you saying you think you will relapse, is a sign you will. so in that sense bupe can help you on your journey.
 
CH or someone????

originally posted by Captain.H>
I get 100 doses out of an 8mg pill.

Since tapering to 80mcg doses I feel a bit more achy after working out, but nothing out of the normal. I plan on tapering even lower as time goes on. I think my next step will be 5 or 10 mcg lower.

Please share how your got 100 doses out of an 8mg pill. I am pretty sure I got shorted on my last script for 2mg subs.....stupidly I never count pills in my scripts! I ran out 2 weeks early and am due to get more tomorrow. I am going to ask for the 8mg pills instead, my doc wont care. He is letting me tell him what I need...which is also insane... but the last time I got 8mg subs 12 lasted me 4 months. So if you dont mind, share how you got 100 doses out of 1 tab?
Hope this post makes sense. I have been very sick from w/ds and messed up for 2 weeks switching from huge doses of hydros back to very weak filtered BS water, using old filters. Yea I know its stupid and risky..totally insanity but I am trying to survive here and not go completely off the deep in back into the sea of H....
 
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8mg = 100 doses * 0.08mg (80µg)

He makes a liquid measurement to divide it evenly into 100.
 
Znegative said:
so I switched from shooting .8 mcg sub to snorting 1 mg for the last week. I plan on probably switching back to I.V tomorrow but figure my tolerance is lower now due to switched ROA. Would it be safe to say that 1mg insufflated = .5 mg I.V? I'm thinking about dosing myself at 100 micrograms
5 times a day, does this seem like a an accurate dosing plan?
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It sure does, that should work fine for you. :)
 
jazzyhope said:
originally posted by Captain.H>
I get 100 doses out of an 8mg pill.

Since tapering to 80mcg doses I feel a bit more achy after working out, but nothing out of the normal. I plan on tapering even lower as time goes on. I think my next step will be 5 or 10 mcg lower.

Please share how your got 100 doses out of an 8mg pill. I am pretty sure I got shorted on my last script for 2mg subs.....stupidly I never count pills in my scripts! I ran out 2 weeks early and am due to get more tomorrow. I am going to ask for the 8mg pills instead, my doc wont care. He is letting me tell him what I need...which is also insane... but the last time I got 8mg subs 12 lasted me 4 months. So if you dont mind, share how you got 100 doses out of 1 tab?
Hope this post makes sense. I have been very sick from w/ds and messed up for 2 weeks switching from huge doses of hydros back to very weak filtered BS water, using old filters. Yea I know its stupid and risky..totally insanity but I am trying to survive here and not go completely off the deep in back into the sea of H....
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Hey jazzy! I have tapered down for a while, so that I only need to use 0.08mg (80micrograms) per IV dose.

I micron filter 3 of the 8mg pills (24mg) into 30ml of bacteriostatic water, so that each ml = 0.8mg, and each 10 units of liquid = 0.08mg (80micrograms).

Sorry to hear you got shorted on your Suboxone, I hope the doctor lets you get 8mg tabs next time.
 
since i stopped IVing i now snort 1mg 2xdaily so 2mg/day and the BA with snorting is 50% and 99-100% IV so is it safe to say that my 2mg snorted daily equals IVing 1mg a day (like i was doing)
 
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