The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

[animateK]

ahahahah K IM = 33333333

greatest drug on this planet.

 

[psihonaut]

Good day,

I've recently started experimenting with k., took it already 6 times from 3 different types of medicinal-grade k. and the batches were tested by a few friends and they were potent and good. The problem is I have a weird tolerance. For example, my first time I injected 1ml (100mg) IM and felt a dizziness (deja vu with my past experiences with operations under general anaesthesia due to various accidents), 'flew' a little, had no visuals and, generally, just a small but different mindspace... in 10 minutes I was up and walking strangely to a friend to talk about what happened..

Next time I took 2 ml(200mg) IM and the effects were more intense (OBE, no OEV except the fact that whenever I opened my eyes the things I saw had a tendency to 'fall' quickly and I had to 'raise' them up again and again, fascinating mental-images, CEV etc), but still nothing close to the experiences most people have. I'm not fat or anything like that, I'm 85kg and 192cm tall. I will most likely IV within the near future, probably starting with 0.5ml (50mg).

I thought that there might be something to do with my NMDA receptors, but my past experiences with DXM were pretty intense...so I don't know how to explain this... anyone got any idea or can point me to some stuff to study/read?

 

[Shambles]

That does sound unusual, but I guess it comes under YMMV - drugs just affect people differently. Those are pretty damn high doses to get such little effect from though. I get similar effects at those doses but it certainly wasn't that way with no tolerance. I can't imagine not being sent off the edge of infinity on a 200mg IM dose with no tolerance. Would most likely just cause a blackout from overshooting the hole if anything, in my opinion.

You mention DXM use. Has it been a while since you used DXM? Just thinking about cross-tolerance as a possibility. Or maybe some people just don't metabolise it in the same way and get less effect? I really don't know about that but sure someone will soon enough

 

[psihonaut]

That does sound unusual, but I guess it comes under YMMV - drugs just affect people differently. Those are pretty damn high doses to get such little effect from though. I get similar effects at those doses but it certainly wasn't that way with no tolerance. I can't imagine not being sent off the edge of infinity on a 200mg IM dose with no tolerance. Would most likely just cause a blackout from overshooting the hole if anything, in my opinion.

Yes, most of my acquaintances said the same thing... I even gave 1ml to a friend which has around the same height/weight and he was k-holed and really detached from this world..

You mention DXM use. Has it been a while since you used DXM? Just thinking about cross-tolerance as a possibility. Or maybe some people just don't metabolise it in the same way and get less effect? I really don't know about that but sure someone will soon enough

It was around 6 months ago, ~900mg of DXM... highly unlikely that a cross-tolerance could be the case.. thanks for your reply, hope more will follow.

 

[caseface99]

Wow Im surprised this thread doesn't get more traffic.

Anyway, a few months ago i got access to ketamine and its now in my top 3 favorites.

Except for IMing it. When my girlfriend and i administer it this way, it is painful while injecting it and the muscle is quite sore through the next day. Maybe we are doing it wrong?

We have no problem IVing it, and enjoy that method A LOT. The rush is like my body directly connecting to an intergalactic vortex of cosmic vibrations.

Except we have tried IVing what we think is a high enough dose yet still have failed to go into a full k hole. I felt like i almost made it through last time but it was the last of what we had and i guess it was just barely not enough because i was back in reality within a minute. I have no way of measuring out milligrams, my scale only does grams or higher.
I have no idea how much i should be getting for my money, but it generally comes in these tiny vials for 40 bucks each. Either its outrageously priced like coke or im getting ripped off. For 40 dollars its basically enough for 2 people to maintain a "partying" dose for 2 1/2-3 hours. so about 4 and a half to 5 hours of doing "bumps" to feel all weird and euphoric and feel like your floating when dancing. Basically i know its hard to estimate but how many "bumps" would be 100mgs? unless anyone is willing to post a picture of 100mgs next to a quarter, that would be awesome.

Maybe ill just set up a shot with a quarter of the vial, and push the plunger down very slowly and stop in the middle to gauge the effects while IVing. (with my girlfriend right there to assist me just in case) And then if that isn't even enough try this with half of a vial?

How much does Ketamine cost for YOU? Im always paranoid about getting ripped off, and i am new to K. So i don't know how much i should be getting for my money.

 

[mr.mackey]

Ketamine is expensive as hell for me, but I don't think were supposed to discuss prices here...pm me if your really curious.

What is a solid "movie dose"? I am getting myself a copy of 2001 A Space Odyssey (which I love) and am planning a Ketamine session. I was thinking of 30mg or so, it usually takes me about 110mg to k-hole but I am not aiming that high. I am going to IM it by the way

 

[Moral Decay]

Wow Im surprised this thread doesn't get more traffic.

Anyway, a few months ago i got access to ketamine and its now in my top 3 favorites.

Except for IMing it. When my girlfriend and i administer it this way, it is painful while injecting it and the muscle is quite sore through the next day. Maybe we are doing it wrong?

We have no problem IVing it, and enjoy that method A LOT. The rush is like my body directly connecting to an intergalactic vortex of cosmic vibrations.

Except we have tried IVing what we think is a high enough dose yet still have failed to go into a full k hole. I felt like i almost made it through last time but it was the last of what we had and i guess it was just barely not enough because i was back in reality within a minute. I have no way of measuring out milligrams, my scale only does grams or higher.
I have no idea how much i should be getting for my money, but it generally comes in these tiny vials for 40 bucks each. Either its outrageously priced like coke or im getting ripped off. For 40 dollars its basically enough for 2 people to maintain a "partying" dose for 2 1/2-3 hours. so about 4 and a half to 5 hours of doing "bumps" to feel all weird and euphoric and feel like your floating when dancing. Basically i know its hard to estimate but how many "bumps" would be 100mgs? unless anyone is willing to post a picture of 100mgs next to a quarter, that would be awesome.

Maybe ill just set up a shot with a quarter of the vial, and push the plunger down very slowly and stop in the middle to gauge the effects while IVing. (with my girlfriend right there to assist me just in case) And then if that isn't even enough try this with half of a vial?

How much does Ketamine cost for YOU? Im always paranoid about getting ripped off, and i am new to K. So i don't know how much i should be getting for my money.

It should say on the vial how many mg/ml it contains if it is in branded packaging.

 

[Shambles]

And to add, it's very hard to hole using it IV, in my experience. The dose is either just a bit too low (uberwonked but not holed) or just a bit too high (blackout) but very hard to get just right. I also find it far more stimulating IV. If I'm IVing it I don't expect to hole and consider it a bonus if I do. It's a much briefer affair either way though.

IM should not be sore. Try injecting more slowly into a large muscle - I use my thighs mostly. If you IM large amounts or repeatedly there tends to be some residual stiffness/soreness the next day but it's well worth it, in my opinion. Damn this UK ket drought

 

[caseface99]

It should say on the vial how many mg/ml it contains if it is in branded packaging.

No like, its these tiny little vials with crushed up crystal in them. The guy i get them from cooks up liquid vials of it and buys smaller vials to put it in for sale. They're a little bit less than a half inch tall and in diameter. I tried taking a picture but my phone sucks and isn't sending it to my email and wont save them on my phone, all i can do is take a pic and text it to someone's phone if i want it saved.

I can buy a vial of liquid from him once i get some cash together, but i don't recall the cost and either way it will take me a while, i don't have a formal job right now. Just random projects with my GF's dad that he pays me for and helping with the renovation of this Victorian house my friend has been working at occasionally.

 

[f1ct]

I'm interested in reconstituting powder K to IM-injectable solution. Just wanted to run this procedure by ya'll to see if it looks good:

- backload 1 g powder K into sterile 10 ml syringe
- attach sterile needle to syringe and draw up 10 ml bacteriostatic water
- cover needle, shake shake shake
- remove needle entirely
- attach sterile .22 micron watman filter to syringe
- attach sterile needle to watman filter
- inject through filter into sterile vial w/ self-healing rubber stopped

- procede with IM injection per usual.

good?

 

[kunmo]

i bumped K (.5) first time ever while on some OXY and weeed of course.... AMAZING SHIT

PERIOD

 

[Bomboclat]

Eek, id recommend staying away from that combo again. Mixing opiates and ketamine can lead to serious respitory problems and even death.

 

[mahatoka]

So all the vials I get say not to use them if there is a precipitate forming, I'm just wondering why and what it would be? Bacteria of some sort? I ask because I've never seen precipitation in a vial before, but I got one today that has a very minor amount. It's at the top of the vial where there is no liquid and it looks like little K crystals with a little liquid bubble over them. I swished the vial around and they seemed to dissolve, I'm just wondering if it's safe to use. It's not even gonna expire for another year. Anyone else ever get this? And why is the warning on there?

Sorry if this is answered somewhere in this thread already.

 

[whoisrhp]

i can't remember / recall but i think i read somewhere or heard that there is a max absorption rate when insufflating ketamine nasally? can someone tell me the exact mg it was? and is the max absorption rate per nostril? how much time has to pass by before you can take another line?

should i split about 8 ~ 10 lines and take a line every minute alternating between nostrils?

 

[Chemical Wizard]

I can't remember where I heard this, and I dont' know if it is right at all, but somewhere I recall hearing that after you snort anything, the blood vessels in the mucous membrane in your nose contract and don't absorb chemicals very well for the next 15-20 minutes.

So try snorting a line in each nostril ever 15 minutes. Also, i find crushing up the ketamine, pulverizing it rather, into a fine dust substantially helps the ketamine dissolve upon contact. I think the more drip you taste going down your throat, the more you should slow down. And don't over insufflate, you're just giving the ketamine a head start towards your tummy.

This is what I try to do anyways, and I always get realllllly high on ketamine. I sure do wanna try doing an IM injection of ketamine, but I don't have the balls to go through with all the needle nonsense. One day I will, but not yet. It would be optimal if i could meet someone to guide me and show me the ways.

 

[Bomboclat]

^ Great post!

Yes, when snorting, make sure you're not swallowing more tan you're absorbing.

Tilt your head back a little, and dont snort so hard. Dont do a full line in a matter of seconds, but rather, portions of the line over a period of 30 seconds or so (or however long itll take to finish whatever sized line you have).

If need be, switch nostrils. Your nose does not know what's going on, it's unbiased here

 

[whoisrhp]

thanks for the replies guys.

doesn't it usually take about 10 minutes after you take your first line before the ketamine effects hit? so if i wait every minute minutes the lines will overlap.

So it's best to split the lines up and finish all of them before 10 minutes if im looking for the least ketamine wasted by ingesting it orally and looking to get into the khole?

 

[Bomboclat]

How long itll take for ketamine to hit you is very subjective. It depends on dose, body chemistry, etc.

For some it could take only a minute or two, and for others it could take 10-15 minutes.

Blowing all of the lines in under 10 minutes would be wasteful, as your nose can only take up so much so fast. As I said, if you want to get the most out of your ketamine by insufflating it, take it slow, take it easy.

If you wanna hit a K-hole, that's going to depend on how much you weigh, and how pure your ketamine is. If this is ketamine in the 90%+ purity range, chances are you wont need to take a lot if you dont have a high tolerance.

I know for me, I get my ketamine freshly dehydrated (or I dehydrate it myself), so I know its pure or at least, very very very close to being pure. Because of that, I know that my dosage for a hole isnt going to be that high.

(For me, its around 150-175mg to reach a hole. So my process would be to dose this out, and then snort the line up in a period of a minute by dong portions of the line at a time, tilting my head back, and slowly insufflating).

Your body weight also has to do with it, so if you're a fairly slim feller (or madame) you wont have to do all that much.

Erowid has a nice dosing guide, however they do undershoot it a bit.
Here is what they have to say about the matter, YMMV.

Insufflated / Nasal Ketamine Dosages
by body weight approx total
Threshold .1 mg / lb 10 - 15 mg
Light .15 mg / lb 15 - 30 mg
Common .3 mg / lb 30 - 75 mg
Strong .5 - .75 mg / lb 60 - 125 mg
The K Hole 1 mg / lb 100 - 250 mg

My point is, that if you want to get the most out of your ket by insufflating it, take it slow, know your dose, and dont blow it all in a matter of minuntes because you wanna get as high as possible as fast as possible.

I hope that helped.

 

[whoisrhp]

How long itll take for ketamine to hit you is very subjective. It depends on dose, body chemistry, etc.

For some it could take only a minute or two, and for others it could take 10-15 minutes.

Blowing all of the lines in under 10 minutes would be wasteful, as your nose can only take up so much so fast. As I said, if you want to get the most out of your ketamine by insufflating it, take it slow, take it easy.

If you wanna hit a K-hole, that's going to depend on how much you weigh, and how pure your ketamine is. If this is ketamine in the 90%+ purity range, chances are you wont need to take a lot if you dont have a high tolerance.

I know for me, I get my ketamine freshly dehydrated (or I dehydrate it myself), so I know its pure or at least, very very very close to being pure. Because of that, I know that my dosage for a hole isnt going to be that high.

(For me, its around 150-175mg to reach a hole. So my process would be to dose this out, and then snort the line up in a period of a minute by dong portions of the line at a time, tilting my head back, and slowly insufflating).

Your body weight also has to do with it, so if you're a fairly slim feller (or madame) you wont have to do all that much.

Erowid has a nice dosing guide, however they do undershoot it a bit.
Here is what they have to say about the matter, YMMV.



My point is, that if you want to get the most out of your ket by insufflating it, take it slow, know your dose, and dont blow it all in a matter of minuntes because you wanna get as high as possible as fast as possible.

I hope that helped.

thank you sir.

 

[mahatoka]

So all the vials I get say not to use them if there is a precipitate forming, I'm just wondering why and what it would be? Bacteria of some sort? I ask because I've never seen precipitation in a vial before, but I got one today that has a very minor amount. It's at the top of the vial where there is no liquid and it looks like little K crystals with a little liquid bubble over them. I swished the vial around and they seemed to dissolve, I'm just wondering if it's safe to use. It's not even gonna expire for another year. Anyone else ever get this? And why is the warning on there?

Sorry if this is answered somewhere in this thread already.

Sorry to bump my own question, I just need some info on this, if it isn't safe to IM anymore can it still safely be insufflated? Or should I just toss it?