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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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Yes, and of course that will last a long time in the system. What gets me is that no range is given in this study (the one from 1982 where the range is given for cats and dogs but not humans). The range is required for giving a half-life because half-life is a range of different people with different metabolizations.


When you look at the drugs phenazepam is structurally closest to, you get half-lives of intermediate length, and I believe this is probably the case with this drug as well. 60 hours may be very near the top of the range, with potentially a lot of space below it to the average and fast metabolism rates. This is my opinion on the matter, anyways.
 
BollWeevil said:
Can someone please tell me more about obtaining a uniform mixture of ethyl alcohol in my propylene glycol solution? I plan to make a solution that I can keep for maybe a year or longer, and I would like to add ethyl alcohol to help keep the propylene glycol from degrading... I just would like to know about how much to use and how to obtain a uniform mixture. Thanks ahead of time.
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You could use acetic acid instead of alcohol, but don't quote me on that, I'm quoting the paper sheet of Roche liquid clonazepam, which doesn't contain any alcohol, only acetic acid and propylene glycol (and sodium saccharide and peach aroma).

Oh god I'm gonna talk about this liquid clonaz again and again, lol =D<3 Sorry for that ;)
 
My 50mg 'sample' of phenazepam arrived today. I've just eyeballed a tiny amount, a granule off the end of a needle. I reckon its a reasonably safe & accurate measurement....its no-where near a 50th of the sample anyway.

So I'm expecting the effects I'd get from maybe two 10mg valium. I'll report back in a couple hrs lol..
 
Levvytation said:
My 50mg 'sample' of phenazepam arrived today. I've just eyeballed a tiny amount, a granule off the end of a needle. I reckon its a reasonably safe & accurate measurement....its no-where near a 50th of the sample anyway.

So I'm expecting the effects I'd get from maybe two 10mg valium. I'll report back in a couple hrs lol..
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Yea?? Dipping a needle into a pile of powder and licking whatever happens to stick....you "reckon its a reasonably safe and accurate measurement"?

Dude, honestly, that is about as far from "accurate" as you can get. I dont mean to be a dick but I dont think its a good idea to describe this insanely inaccurate method as "safe and accurate", on a forum dedicated to harm reduction.

This stuff is active at sub milligram levels. There is NO possible way to eyeball a dosage that small. It is true that you almost certainly won't die from dosing like this since benzos have such a broad dosage range, but what you are doing is an extremely reckless manner of measurement, and this sort of practice is exactly what is causing all the horror stories of "phenazepam blackouts", and all the trouble people get into when under its influence.

So Im going to stress this again- If you plan on experimenting with this stuff, you need to find an accurate way of measuring (create a uniform solution or purchase an EXTREMELY accurate scale). Otherwise you will almost certainly end up as one of the people who accidently take far more then they intended and end up hurting yourself or others.-DG
 
After eyeballing one-too-many doses and spending a night homeless, i decided to make a tincture using a calibrated eyedropper andairtight pill container. I combined 200 drops of EtOh and 100mg of phenazepam and agitated for a few minutes to yield a highly potent solution. I don't thing PEG is really necessary.
 
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Yea?? Yea?? Dipping a needle into a pile of powder and licking whatever happens to stick....you "reckon its a reasonably safe and accurate measurement"?



This stuff is active at sub milligram levels. There is NO possible way to eyeball a dosage that small. It is true that you almost certainly won't die from dosing like this since benzos have such a broad dosage range, but what you are doing is an extremely reckless manner of measurement, and this sort of practice is exactly what is causing all the horror stories of "phenazepam blackouts", and all the trouble people get into when under its influence.
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First bolded bit. Yes. Reasonably safe & accurate, if you are VERY careful.

And its active at sub-milligram levels but so what? I got 50mg. 0.5mg of phenaz is the accepted 'dose', equivalent to 10mg diazepam or whatever. So my 50mg phenaz = 100 valium. Now I can assure you that the amount picked up by dipping a dry needle into the powder was NO WAY near a 50th of that baggie. Over the course of the evening I've dabbed with the needle again, twice. Its got me nicely benzo'd up, just right.

I'm not benzo nieve, and I've had phenaz before (with disastrous results from overdoing it stupidly & mixing it with all sorts)

But hey, learnt my lesson. The needle method works ok if done properly & carefully, imo.
 
SWIM is using just isopropyl with a 1:1 mixture plus heat and agitation...
should swim use like a sublingual? What is the best method to administer it?
scaling out and ingesting didnt prove to be very effective for SWIM but SWIM has a strong benzo tolerance.
 
^I'd use sublingual or just swallow... but why'd you use isopropyl alcohol over ethyl alcohol or PG?
 
Has anyone else notice how quickly tolerance skyrockets? after bulding up for a week (and starting with with a moderate benzo tolerance) I feel like I can easily handle 10mg+ doses.
 
yeah I used to have to take 30mg+ doses.. and that was part of the reason I stopped taking it. Because either I was getting a crazy tolerance or the vendor was starting to cut their shit. So I got put on valium to get off of it. I do miss it tho.
 
^happens all too easily with benzos. please tread carefully if you're assuming you can take those doses - don't go jumping head first. be safe:)

it would be advisable to taper down to a lower level of tolerance as to take a small load from your dependence.
 
EricABlair said:
AS for the UK its not really possible to get PG as I understand it. My needle licks went fine by the way, just had to massively under-dose and repeat a lot. Not that I would recommend this method as its not accurate and you need to be rather anal/careful.
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You can buy PG online from fleabay ect.
 
My friend snort almost 100mg of phenazepam thinking it was a vial of Mephedrone... We lost 3 days watching him.
 
when experimenting I have found it wise not to do Phenazepam 2 or more days in a row, reason being it has a 60 hour half life, more the next day just fucks you up and you loose the pleasant benzo feeling. I dissolve 100mg in 100ml of Everclear, food grade 95% ethanol. I did not have to heat it, seemed to dissolve fairly quickly. Maybe some one can clarify, if it dissolves to the eye back into clear liquid, would there be any reason to heat the solution?

Thanks, Relaxing
 
If you dont see any particulate matter floating or settling to the bottom then you can assume it has dissolved into the solution and does not require heating.

Still- its a good idea to shake it up a bit before each dosing to ensure uniform distribution (though this is not necessary, just being extra cautious)>-DG
 
MescalitoBandito said:
Has anyone else notice how quickly tolerance skyrockets? after bulding up for a week (and starting with with a moderate benzo tolerance) I feel like I can easily handle 10mg+ doses.
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I have done 60-100 (don't know; a big ass pile) oral and felt nothing, really.

My tolerance is ruined now. I can get by one 30 or 40/day but I'm trynig to drop.

Weirdly, rare days I don't need it all.

Even so, if I were to try, say, 8-20mg of clonazepam, it's pointless; don't feel that.

How's that for a warning?
 
Dissolved 20mg in 10ml Propylene Glycol.

Took 6mg and I have been in a benzo haze the last couple of days. This is some strong shit.

I'm going to keep off for a week and then take way smaller doses. Like 0,5-1mg to see how it affects anxiety ect in everyday life.
 
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Dissolved 20mg in 10ml Propylene Glycol.

Took 6mg and I have been in a benzo haze the last couple of days. This is some strong shit.

I'm going to keep off for a week and then take way smaller doses. Like 0,5-1mg to see how it affects anxiety ect in everyday life.
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Wish I woulda' done it that way! Then my klonipins might still work! Or even my phenazzle!
 
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