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Hotels to drug test violent revellers

* Henry Budd
* From: mX
* February 24, 2010 12:12PM


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VIOLENT revellers should face random drug tests, the Australian Hotels Association says.

The AHA's NSW branch has put up $100,000 for a six-month trial of random drug testing for people arrested for anti-social behaviour.

AHA NSW chief executive, Sally Fielke, said the Association wanted to work with police and the State Government to tackle the use of alcohol and illicit drugs.

She wanted to see police extend their random roadside drug testing program to cover those arrested in and around licensed premises.

Police Minister Michael Daley today said constructive proposals to combat illegal drug use were welcome.

But a testing program for every person arrested for an anti-social violence offence would be a costly and timely exercise for police, he said.

Fielke said while hoteliers were continuing to work hard on responsible service of alcohol provisions and other alcohol-related initiatives, they became virtually ineffective when drugs were thrown into the mix.

The AHA said it was difficult to develop policies to tackle anti-social behaviour when the role of illegal substances was unknown.
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http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/...iolent-revellers/story-e6frfq80-1225833830321
 
No surprises that the Hotels association is suggesting this, considering they are the closest thing that the venues which serve intoxicated patrons have to a lobby group it would undoubtedly be in their best interests to be able to use the findings of such tests to isolate other drugs as factors in street violence.
On a side note- would not be at all surprised if a good portion of those tested were not 'just' drunk- not because the drugs themselves have a tendancy to cause these behaviors but rather that it is quite logical to suspect that a greater portion of those with access to illegal drugs will often be inclined to such acts
 
Fielke said while hoteliers were continuing to work hard on responsible service of alcohol provisions and other alcohol-related initiatives, they became virtually ineffective when drugs were thrown into the mix.
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What a complete load of garbage. This is such a lame and feeble attempt to shift the blame away from alcohol that Fielke should consider a job in politics.
 
My view on this is the hotels have been getting alot of bad publicity with all the glassings etc and this is their way of pointing the blame towards something other than alcohol.

clubs are under alot of pressure to stop violence by responsible service of alcohol etc and they will lose money if people are refused alcohol so they point the blame at drugs for the violence in hope that government regulatores will lay off the hotel owners.
 
While uncommon, I've seen violence from people who've taken MDMA. In more than one case the perpetrator was the one on the drug! Rare perhaps, but not everyone reacts the same way, particularly if continually re-dosing over a short period. Agitation and response-aggressive tendencies are more common however. I have piles of documented instances involving such interventions.
 
phase_dancer said:
While uncommon, I've seen violence from people who've taken MDMA. In more than one case the perpetrator was the one on the drug! Rare perhaps, but not everyone reacts the same way, particularly if continually re-dosing over a short period. Agitation and response-aggressive tendencies are more common however. I have piles of documented instances involving such interventions.
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One of my best mates I refuse to let have MDMA, because of how insanely violent it makes him. I mean to the point where if he had've had a weapon on him I probably wouldn't be on this site as we speak all because I "Walked on his concrete" Scared the shit out of me to be honest, he has had MDMA on other occasions and not been violent but I refuse to let him try again if i'm gonna be there.
 
thestudent14 said:
One of my best mates I refuse to let have MDMA, because of how insanely violent it makes him. I mean to the point where if he had've had a weapon on him I probably wouldn't be on this site as we speak all because I "Walked on his concrete" Scared the shit out of me to be honest, he has had MDMA on other occasions and not been violent but I refuse to let him try again if i'm gonna be there.
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With all due respect, I'd say your mate is just a plain and simple wanker with suppressed violent tendencies. I used to have a "mate" like that once - good riddance.
 
expothead said:
With all due respect, I'd say your mate is just a plain and simple wanker with suppressed violent tendencies. I used to have a "mate" like that once - good riddance.
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I agree that he has alot of built up violent tendencies, but I meant more that with MDMA it made him bring them out, and far worse then I've seen before. And NO I don't think it helped clear his head afterwards, I think it only made things worse.
 
you never know

I know of a young woman who was murdered by a fellow who broke into ice rage at a hotel recently (as in, accommodation hotel)....might be irrelevant but had he been nabbed earlier in his bender, that may not have happened...
 
It's not illegal to be on a drug is it?

If someone is violent whilst on a drug and gets arrested surely it only matters if they are still possessing the drug, not if its in ther veins.
 
Just to clarify, does that mean I'm allowed to be intoxicated in my own home? after use of a drug?
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Sure, if

a) the drug is legal

and

b) you're not upsetting your family or your neighborhood
 
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So really...hyroller shouldn't have said its an offence to be intoxicated in a public place,
he should've said it's illegal to be intoxicated with an illegal substance.

Just wanted to clear that up =D
 
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