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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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Tickle My Pickle said:
no risks. if you get white crystals you're fine. even yellowish crystals are okay.
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Even a yellow fluffy powder will take you to the other side, sometimes even better than pure white crystals. The DMT you get from a mimosa extraction will be good DMT, even if its waxy and yellow.

If you do a freeze precipitation, you don't even have to worry about anything, it will be perfectly smokable as soon as the naphtha fully evaportates. If you skip the freeze precip and just evaporate, it will be a bit harsh to smoke and could use a recrystalization but it will certainly still work very well-- the main difference will be that you can't smoke that stuff a lot because the impurities are a bit harsh on the ol' windbags.

I've smoked different-looking DMT extracts over the last couple years..... white powder, yellow powder, yellow crystals, pink crystals......-- there's not really much difference when you get down to it. Scoop into bowl, light, and prepare for blastoff. 8o :D
 
Delta-9-THC said:
He said he won't do freeze precip anyway but I think you need a lot more than 4 hours to get all of it to crystallize. At least 12hrs to be safe. I usually do 24hrs.
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Longer the better. But if you want to speed things up it makes no differance becauce the solvent is being reused as many times as necessary. You keep doing pulls until nothing drops out from freeze percipt. Then you evap the solvent to recover any residuals.

You can smoke freeze percipt but transparent crystals are the way to go, People always talk about the terrible taste but transparent crystals are easy to smoke and have a pleasent taste in my 02.

Peace
 
MagikVenom said:
The straight to base teks with sodium hydroxide are unsmokeable in the first extraction in my 02. Lungs on fire always seem to distract me from the matter at hand.
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Agreed.

I know it shouldn't be possible for lye to come along if you separate the layers correctly, but somehow it is, apparently. :?

As a simple test you can put a tiny bit of the dried end result on your tongue, if it doesn't burn or feel irritating you're good to go. %)

If it does, you can easily and completely remove all lye contamination via sodium carbonate wash or recrystallization.
 
^Lye is very slippery like soap-- get some of your DMT moist and rub it between your fingers, if its really slippery then there's lye in it.

I highly doubt any lye would pull through into the final product though, its not soluble in hydrocarbon solvents so it wouldn't be drawn out in the naphtha. Also, the boiling point of NaOH is 1388 degrees celcius (2530 degrees fahrenheit): your lighter can't get that hot, so it wouldn't go into your lungs.
 
Roger&Me said:
your lighter can't get that hot, so it wouldn't go into your lungs.
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Are you really sure of this? I've always heard that too but when I try to confirm it the best I can find is this: http://www.derose.net/steve/resources/engtables/flametemp.html, and it says butane (the gas in bic lighters) can burn at 1977 degrees celsius. Not trying to dispute what you said as it seems to be the general consensus, but then what am I missing here? I never understood that...

Of course you don't need anything near those temperatures to vaporize dmt so it's still possible to safely smoke lye contaminated stuff I guess... Definitely make sure you don't accidentally inhale some solid particles in that case though (a water bong would probably be the safest).

I'd still advise to just clean it up if you're in any doubt, concerns like this are about the last thing you need come launchtime. :)
 
^I'm sure butane can burn that hot, but I doubt a lighter is capable of transferring that much thermal output.

I'm not a pyrotechnic engineer, so take this with a grain or two of NaCl-- but this is my (layman's) understanding:

If you had a temperature measuring device with pinpoint accuracy, and aimed it at the inner crest of the butane flame, it would probably read close to the recorded temperature of combustion for butane. However the flame isn't capable of transferring that amount of thermal energy because its acted upon (quite significantly) by the surrounding atmosphere, especially when air currents are pulling against the flame with a high velocity (like in a situation where you're hitting the pipe with a lit lighter-- you're sucking a large volume of air past a very small flame, at a high velocity, and that cools it very quickly). Also, the thermal radiation emitted by a flame is function of the amount of time its burning (and the total amount of oxidation)-- and lighter flames are usually only ignited for a few seconds at most, and thus don't oxidize much.

But yeah, I definitely do agree with you that its best to wrap-up all your loose ends before embarking on a hyperspacial journey. :) If ya think your DMT has lye in it, make sure to rinse it well with a weak base.
 
I noticed a lot of people use jars to precip. and since I found using jars to be rather annoying compared to using a glass dish I thought I'd let you guys know that using those glass dishes is much easier since you can put atleast 500 mls of naptha in the small one I have and you can get even bigger ones. They make getting all the dmt out in a timely matter much easier than trying to scrape the dmt off the sides of the jars. Plus you only have to filter a small amount of the naptha while the rest is pulled of with a baster.
 
Rodger is 100% correct you can not vaporize sodium Hydroxide it will remain in the pipe as residue.

The nasty smoke comes from plant fats and other organics in the biomass and please do not tell me MHRB has no fat in it. I have done the experement. DMT oxide is another lung killer yes it works but it should be removed from a smokable extraction and used as a oral source of DMT.

I like to load my clean glass pipe do my hit and look at the pipe with NO residue I got it all because it was clean a vaporized all at once.

A mix of plant fats DMT oxide will burn your glass black after the first hit and burn your lungs and taste buds.

Peace
 
I'm extracting DMT from mimosa hostilis and I have some questions.

I got some VM&P naphtha but it seems to be impure when evaporating (is this normal?) so I'm using xylene instead because I happen to have some around. I've heard about using xylene to extract jungle spice but I'm more interested in DMT than jungle spice. Will my product have jungle spice and if so, is it possible to isolate the DMT from it?
 
My first extraction has begun.

I ground up 500grams of mimosa hostilis rootbark
basified 3L of water with 375G of Lye.

I then proceeded to add the root bark.

I let it sit for 2.5 hours and i did a 500ml naptha pull and i put it on a plate and into the freezer.

3 hours in, i've noticed that the naptha evaporates rather quickly despite being in my freezer and i am starting to form DMTrees ^.^

at 5 hours in i did another 500ml naptha pull and i put it onto a plate into the freezer.

at 12 hours in, i did one final 375ml naptha pull and put it into the freezer

*sleep*
Awoke.

I'm now adding more water and lye to the rootbark to see if i can attain anymore goodies from it. I will let it sit for 12 hours. Then i am going to proceed to pulverize another 500 grams of root bark, and i'm going to evaporate everything all onto one plate and oogle at the mountain of maddness
 
Ego_tripper said:
I'm extracting DMT from mimosa hostilis and I have some questions.

I got some VM&P naphtha but it seems to be impure when evaporating (is this normal?) so I'm using xylene instead because I happen to have some around. I've heard about using xylene to extract jungle spice but I'm more interested in DMT than jungle spice. Will my product have jungle spice and if so, is it possible to isolate the DMT from it?
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It will have jungle spice in it. You can isolate the dmt, by evaporating the xylene and re-extracting what remains with naptha. Though it sounds like you're leery of naptha. If you freeze precipitate it though, I doubt any (or at least much) of the contaminants will be in your final product.
Anyone have an answer to my jungle spice question? What is it?
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I thought I did answer it.
 
Shakti said:
It will have jungle spice in it. You can isolate the dmt, by evaporating the xylene and re-extracting what remains with naptha. Though it sounds like you're leery of naptha. If you freeze precipitate it though, I doubt any (or at least much) of the contaminants will be in your final product.
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Alright, thanks. This is what I was going to do, just wanted some kind of confirmation
 
My good lord.
from 500grams of rootbark.
I almost got an 1/8th of WHITE GLORIOUS DMT Crystals.
I have 100mg of Jungle Spice as well.
 
we are currently having a slight dilemma, a pull done with colemans camp fuel yeilded 1.5 grams of BLUE DMT.... which i cannot find anywhere on the internet.

We did this pull shortly after most of the lye had worked its way out of the water....

could it be possible that some sort of natural dye was absorbed into this DMT...
also, is their anyway of purifying it.

I've read that ammonia is good for purification.
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I4521716/name/cleaner_a_p_ammonia_900ml

i'm just really stumped as to why this pull is blue, any suggestions??
 
blue dmt? really that it smells funny, but not like... insanely funny...
i dunno, this is just kinda confusing as to why it did that


also what would be a good product for cleaning it?
 
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