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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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i think i'm all set....last question is normally when u separate the naptha from bark & lye mix you do it several times into a few jars....but im using brownie pan for evaporation do u need to remove all the naptha after it separates and put it in the pan, then repeat?or just do it once? i only wanna use one pan..but i also dont wanna be wasting DMT
 
Be really careful, man. You can blind yourself and burn your house down doing a DMT extraction.

I'm not trying to be mean in any way, but you didn't even know that the evaporating naphtha will smell (and it will, really bad), and you're doing this behind your parents back: so I'm actually going to recommend that you DO NOT go through with it.

If you mess something up and get caught by your parents, they're going to root through your computer and find this site and the nexus, and god knows what shit that could brew up....

Kids living with their parents should not be extracting DMT, wait until you're older and have your own place. When kids are involved, it gets the attention of authorities and then bad things start to happen.
 
i'm 20 btw lol. but my parents are chill. they found a qp of trainwreck before and just flushed it down the toilet.


but i can do this all in a few hours on my day off and just put it outside till it evaporates, then im all done.
 
How you deal with your parents is your business, but I would strongly discourage trying to do this in a ditch somewhere or any other poorly controlled environment. You need a clean, ventilated space where you won't be disturbed to do an extraction safely with things like lye and naptha. This isn't like making hash oil with rubbing alcohol - you're working with a dangerous base (lye) and one of the most flammable materials available (naptha), you're relying on your ability to keep lye water and naptha separate which means if your jar falls down and bumps around a bunch you're pretty much hosed... Make a friend with an apartment before trying this, or wait until you have the house to yourself for a couple days at least, IMHO.

BTW, they weren't telling you to use zippo fluid per se, just that naptha is the primary ingredient *in* zippo and other lighter fluids. Those fluids often have other additives in them, though. IIRC, the naptha sold as paint thinner is typically pure naptha, but make sure to check the packaging to be sure.

At any rate, if you're going through this much trouble to set it up in addition to learning to do your first extraction, it seems silly to do it with only an ounce of MHRB. If you screw up a step and reduce your yield a bit, or just have somewhat low alkaloid content MHRB to begin with, you could easily end up without enough full 50mg doses for 4 people to try it once. It's virtually the same amount of effort to extract from 250g as it is to extract from 25g. You already seem willing to spend a few extra bucks getting whatever the best solvents, etc. are, getting the most appropriate containers for everything, etc., so I can't imagine the cost of a little more MHRB is a huge problem... Source discussion isn't allowed here and overly specific price discussion is frowned upon, I think it's acceptable for me to tell you that if the cost per ounce of MHRB is prohibitive, you are almost certainly getting ripped off. I've never even seen it sold in such small quantities.
 
How you deal with your parents is your business, but I would strongly discourage trying to do this in a ditch somewhere or any other poorly controlled environment. You need a clean, ventilated space where you won't be disturbed to do an extraction safely with things like lye and naptha. This isn't like making hash oil with rubbing alcohol - you're working with a dangerous base (lye) and one of the most flammable materials available (naptha), you're relying on your ability to keep lye water and naptha separate which means if your jar falls down and bumps around a bunch you're pretty much hosed... Make a friend with an apartment before trying this, or wait until you have the house to yourself for a couple days at least, IMHO.

BTW, they weren't telling you to use zippo fluid per se, just that naptha is the primary ingredient *in* zippo and other lighter fluids. Those fluids often have other additives in them, though. IIRC, the naptha sold as paint thinner is typically pure naptha, but make sure to check the packaging to be sure.

At any rate, if you're going through this much trouble to set it up in addition to learning to do your first extraction, it seems silly to do it with only an ounce of MHRB. If you screw up a step and reduce your yield a bit, or just have somewhat low alkaloid content MHRB to begin with, you could easily end up without enough full 50mg doses for 4 people to try it once. It's virtually the same amount of effort to extract from 250g as it is to extract from 25g. You already seem willing to spend a few extra bucks getting whatever the best solvents, etc. are, getting the most appropriate containers for everything, etc., so I can't imagine the cost of a little more MHRB is a huge problem... Source discussion isn't allowed here and overly specific price discussion is frowned upon, I think it's acceptable for me to tell you that if the cost per ounce of MHRB is prohibitive, you are almost certainly getting ripped off. I've never even seen it sold in such small quantities.


actaully i'm going to get ronsonol fluid which is a 5oz bottle for the naptha. and i will be getting 4oz (1/4lb) of the bark. i need to match the naptha and bark gram for gram, so i'll use most the lighter fluid.



i will be using 2 containers which i think will be fine? one mixing container (1 gallon pickle jar) and 1 quart mason jar that i will take the naptha out and put into where the spice will crystalize.
 
I've tested Ronsonol and verified that it does evaporate cleanly.

I'd recommend Noman's tek over Lazy Man's, simply because my research has overwhelmingly pointed to Noman's favorably.

Good luck & be careful. If you haven't done DMT before, you're in for a magnificent surprise. :)
 
I've tested Ronsonol and verified that it does evaporate cleanly.

I'd recommend Noman's tek over Lazy Man's, simply because my research has overwhelmingly pointed to Noman's favorably.

Good luck & be careful. If you haven't done DMT before, you're in for a magnificent surprise. :)

how long do i need to leave it in freezer for percipitation? and im ordering 3 jars now one for each pull
 
okay so when all the naptha/bark/lye are in on container and after it separates i'm supposed to remove the top layer and put into a separate jar, then lid that jar and put it in the freezer...then it says to do it 2 or 3 more times with the bark thats left in the original jar. do i put em in new jars those 2 or 3 times? or just add it in the same jar?



also, its putting it in a mason jar with a lid in the freezer the same as just letting it air dry?

one is freeze perecpt the other evaporation

you can combine your solvent pulls if you wish. Evaporate the solvent in air or under a fan until cloudy.

Then put in the frezzer you should see something begin to drop in in 4hours maybey less.

Remove the percipt by filtration and reuse the solvent over again.

You can clean you result with multiple freeze perecpts and produce some real clean stuff. By multiple recrystalizations of dirty material.

The straight to base teks with sodium hydroxide are unsmokeable in the first extraction in my 02. Lungs on fire always seem to distract me from the matter at hand.
 
He said he won't do freeze precip anyway but I think you need a lot more than 4 hours to get all of it to crystallize. At least 12hrs to be safe. I usually do 24hrs.
 
as far as ammonia: you dont need it.

dont use that liquid drano, NaOH (sodium hydroxide) is easy enough to find

and as Delta mentioned, if you're not freeze preciping you will need more than 4 hours to evap the naptha.
And oh yeh, get naphtha, not lighter fluid from your corner store.


**merging with extraction thread.
 
Would throwing in a jungle spice extraction for the junk matter at the end of the extraction be possible? I would like to see what can be done with it.
 
you need to start with a non-polar solvent other than naptha, like xylene. the jungle spice is not soluble in naptha. So start with the xylene, evap that off, extract the remains with naptha, giving you the dmt and leaving the jungle spice.
 
I'll be testing this with mr. pickle..... say he somehow messes up during the procedure as in mixing to much or not enough of certain chemicals, what risks are we taking when smoking this? like what negative things could happen
 
I'll be testing this with mr. pickle..... say he somehow messes up during the procedure as in mixing to much or not enough of certain chemicals, what risks are we taking when smoking this? like what negative things could happen

no risks. if you get white crystals you're fine. even yellowish crystals are okay.
 
if it's white, it's alright
if it's yellow, let it mellow
if it's black, send it back
 
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