Harm Reduction Injection Complications FAQ and Mega Thread

[Pusherman]

Alone, coked up 2:30 what the heck now?

Ok, I started my day at 11:00am was excited to IV coke for my first time (bought a eight ball yesterday). Not a coke guy, seen how crazy it can make people (mostly crack heads).

I forgot that all my veins in my arm are permanently gone from being in the hospital for weeks, and from dumb nurses, and my doctor giving my IV benadryl every 4 hours, I think he was purposely trying to collapse all my veins, I thought they were going to go for my neck or something b4 I left.

This was years ago, and today I tried to find a vein in my arm, tied off and everything, after about 40 practice shots I gave up, and moved to the wrist where I saw a huge vein. I wasn't aware of arteries risk being huge in wrist area until after.

First practice shot drew a huge amount of blood, so I put about a half of a big line in the cap added 50cc and drew it up and preceded to shoot in the same place as the practice.

Don't know what I did wrong because the shot made a huge lump, that slowly went away (although it still tender and slightly puffy). But, I most of did something right because as I the lump went away, I felt as my ear were going to ring, but the good feeling was stopped by intense nausea. Yay.


Well, for harm reduction I just gave up on trying to shoot.

Now I am coked out, doing lines, but no matter how much lines I do I don't get any higher there is no euphoria, but it's too early just to stop, but I feel like im putting this shit up my nose just to keep from crashing, it's not really morish I just wanna get high lol, and i'm afraid to crash.
Im paranoid because my grandparent keep telling me they think something up, I spilled my coke, and it all over my bed and ground. Thing are really shitty.

I want some damn euphoria I spent X for this crap.

The grandparents just left, they will be back soon, is there any other place I can safely try to shoot except my arms?

 

[dwade2009]

Wrists are a good place but not recommended with cocaine. You could try your feet but that is also dangerous. There is also a really good vein that runs along the inner forearm on both arms that I have used in the past.

 

[Shambles]

maybe some tobacco flew into the solution

Ugh. Tobacco = instadirtyhit. Even the tiniest speck. Yes I know getting tobacco or anything else in an IV solution is kinda sloppy, my IV hygiene is atrocious though

But in answer to the question, dirty hits and cotton fever have always been pretty much interchangeable terms for me. They both feel shit. Sterile equipment, not reusing filters and good IV hygiene is generally the answer

 

[triiper]

umm the big vein on your bicep, the huge vein under your forearm, and if you're set on hitting the wrist hit the vein on the side near the thumb, that one is pretty big. you can also hit the vein directly on top of your wrist, that one is good sized.

 

[Memphis10again]

your grandparents left to go get you a drug test

 

[Pusherman]

Well this is IT. I fail at everything, and NOW I failed at all things being a junky. How low can you go?

Went to the bathroom, thought I would try to hit that vein again, and saw a website that showed technique shooting at the top of the hands, thought I would save that for last try.

I don't know what the F is wrong with me, maybe it was because I saw potential after the half failed attempt, or maybe I am just a stupid jack ass.

I got so pissed that I couldn't draw any blood up and I JUST went NEEDLE CRAZY. I went after anything that looked slightly like it could be a vein, even blind poking the crux of my elbows about 40 times (hey the nurses do it) I poked the top of my hand so much it looks like I have chicken pox, my wrist are black and blew, and I injected in the same spot that I got blood with from a practice shot but I didn't get blood and I was so pissed I just jammed about two lines worth into who knows what. I probably tried about 150+ time, even going for places like my finger. And there more. BLOOD is splattered across my walls.

I think I just went insane and just waisted probably more than a half a gram of coke. There is no way I can hide that marks there everywhere, bruises all over...I'm paranoid as hell, I think I lost a needle, and don't know if I cleaned up all the blood drops, because everywhere I look there is more.

I was just so in the minute and determined, I don't like coke I just wanted some euphoria and want to learn how to inject, I did the same thing when i tried to inject heroin once, almost worse than this time, I made my feet swell to like 2 size larger from trying to draw there for over an hour.

I fail at being a failure.

After the shot of coke, snorting it does nothing for me, I just did a monster line and it made me no higher and I don't think it's even bad coke. I can't listen to music or do anything because I think people are talking about, and now I have good reasons.

I am either going to finish this eight ball off (not much, and I only had it for a day and a half) or I am going to dump it, then take a massive benzo dose, wake up tomorrow check and see if I need to go to the hospital.

Man I miss the days when oxys were free and plentiful.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

your grandparents left to go get you a drug test

fucking LOLOLOL

Prices aren't allowed BTW.

I recommend taking a break for a few hours. Maybe snort bigger lines? Or rock up crack? (I know you said that sketches you out, but IVing it isn't too wise on that note.) There are veins in your thighs, but AFAIK the farther from the heart you shoot, the risks increase.

God I can't believe I just recommended someone make crack... .

Regardless though, you're going to be sketching out about your grandparents (and hell, they very well may know something's up by your behaviour/clogged nose).

 

[Pegasus]

Wow, man, I can only imagine how blunt the needle is from pushing it in and out so many times. You should really be careful with your veins! That many pokes isn't good even if you're using a fresh needle every time, which I'm sure you're not...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I want some damn euphoria I spent X for this crap.

The grandparents just left, they will be back soon, is there any other place I can safely try to shoot except my arms?

If you don't have a friend to help you IV, then I wouldn't attempt shooting anywhere else. It's been done before, I just think it sounds like you're new to IVing and might be better off taking a break from cocaine.

Cocaine isn't euphoric on its own. I have told people my opinion on this many times and a lot of people don't understand what I mean. Without heroin, cocaine is not a great euphoric drug. With heroin, cocaine can be nice, but still it's not something I would ever want to do a lot of in a short amount of time.

I would give up on trying to shoot the cocaine, and I would also take a break and save the rest of the 8 ball. Just my 2 cents.

Well this is IT. I fail at everything, and NOW I failed at all things being a junky. How low can you go?

Went to the bathroom, thought I would try to hit that vein again, and saw a website that showed technique shooting at the top of the hands, thought I would save that for last try.

I don't know what the F is wrong with me, maybe it was because I saw potential after the half failed attempt, or maybe I am just a stupid jack ass.

I got so pissed that I couldn't draw any blood up and I JUST went NEEDLE CRAZY. I went after anything that looked slightly like it could be a vein, even blind poking the crux of my elbows about 40 times (hey the nurses do it) I poked the top of my hand so much it looks like I have chicken pox, my wrist are black and blew, and I injected in the same spot that I got blood with from a practice shot but I didn't get blood and I was so pissed I just jammed about two lines worth into who knows what. I probably tried about 150+ time, even going for places like my finger. And there more. BLOOD is splattered across my walls.

I think I just went insane and just waisted probably more than a half a gram of coke. There is no way I can hide that marks there everywhere, bruises all over...I'm paranoid as hell, I think I lost a needle, and don't know if I cleaned up all the blood drops, because everywhere I look there is more.

I was just so in the minute and determined, I don't like coke I just wanted some euphoria and want to learn how to inject, I did the same thing when i tried to inject heroin once, almost worse than this time, I made my feet swell to like 2 size larger from trying to draw there for over an hour.

I fail at being a failure.

After the shot of coke, snorting it does nothing for me, I just did a monster line and it made me no higher and I don't think it's even bad coke. I can't listen to music or do anything because I think people are talking about, and now I have good reasons.

I am either going to finish this eight ball off (not much, and I only had it for a day and a half) or I am going to dump it, then take a massive benzo dose, wake up tomorrow check and see if I need to go to the hospital.

Man I miss the days when oxys were free and plentiful.

You should give the coke away to a friend who would otherwise just snort it. And I wouldn't use needles if I were you. It's a bad thing just to say "F it" and inject drugs (of unknown purity - and wtf a half G in one shot? Be glad you didn't make it - it could have been an OD, but maybe not if it was cut) into who knows where in your body.

If you just wanted to feel euphoria, then I wouldn't have bought so much cocaine. I would have gotten better drugs, or at least a variety of different drugs so you're not stuck with one, crappy drug.

Cocaine, and IVing don't appear to be for you.

This will eventually be merged into the IV Complications Mega Thread and FAQ.

 

[Pegasus]

You should probably chill out, especially since have benzos, so you don't freak out your grandparents anymore. You're obviously covered in needle marks and have spilled cocaine everywhere... Not to mentioned strung out as hell.


(JMO)

 

[Jabberwocky]

You should probably chill out, especially since have benzos, so you don't freak out your grandparents anymore. You're obviously covered in needle marks and have spilled cocaine everywhere... Not to mentioned strung out as hell.


(JMO)

this! put the bag away man, you sound strung out as hell. youre only going to be pushing the boundaries even further and eventually start fishing out at the rate youre going.

throw the bag away or put it down for another day.

theres not much harm reduction coming out of this thread so im going to put an end to it now. its turning more into a journal entry now. if you have any further IV queries please direct them to the IV complications thread.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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good idea, ill do this now actually.

 

[Jabberwocky]

merged thread into IV thread.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

good idea, ill do this now actually.

Thanks. I think as alarming as missing a shot can be, we should just merge the threads here so ppl don't get depressed/angry/sad that we closed their thread. That's just my 2 cents, if I was a regular BLer, missed a shot and posted a thread, I'd appreciate it being merged in here instead of being closed by far.

Thanks LW!

 

[Pusherman]

Ok I am more chill now, I just did a bunch of benzo's, and guess what the bottle empty out to my coat and they were all crushed into powder, I have no idea how much much there was but I took a piece of paper funneled it in my mouth and swigged it down with pop, alot got waisted but it seems to be helping. Only problem is now I am going to go through benzo wd unless I can convince my psych for another prescription.


I came to the conclusion that COKE sucks on it own. I think the first shot put me over the edge and made me a lil insane the rest of the day. However, the other day I was on 1200mg of lyrica, 6mg xanax, and coke seemed like the greatest thing in the world at that time. I didn't even need that much, and wasn't doing crazy paranoid things. I think I lost, spilled more coke today, then I did all day yesterday I had a ton before I went to bed, and now there is barely none left which I don't care except all the $$ I spent.

I don't see coke addicts as mentally weak. Man, it takes work to be a coke/crack head, I don't understand why someone would choose to be in a constant state of paranoia, looking out window thinking police are after them, having to come up with all that money. I couldn't do it.

I still am pissed at my numerous failed attempts of shooting up, I mean most junkies would give up after trying as much as I have. I sware when I was in the hospital they collapsed all my veins, at first it was no prob at all, by the time I left they had to call the IV team each time and they couldn't even get in the vien I had one left on the top of my hand and it hurt so damn bad because it was a tiny vein I screamed to the top of the lungs every single time.

Permanent vein collapse does exist, I just dont understand how 2 weeks of constant injections could rid me of my veins when people do heroin for years and still don't have any problems. I used to have nurses says I had nice veins now there none existent.

The only reason why I really want to learn, because I am sitting on like 300, 8mg suboxone. I LOVE opiate but I hated sucking on them, the taste made me want to puke, so I just stopped, and now there the only thing I have. But imagine doing what I did today with bupe, damn I would be in trouble.

Man, my bad for so much rambling, I am new here and already look like a arse.
I also got a very addictive personality, but for some reason drugs of all kinds are not doing anything for me. I quit for a couple years, but I would rather stay high, just no more coke for me.

GO ahead and delete this crack head shit if you want, please

 

[Pegasus]

^Just snort the Suboxone if you want to make it last a long time, it is really very strong when you do it that way. I'd say around 240mg oxycodone would be equivelent to the amount of opiate you'd get from snorting 8mg Suboxone. Obviously, not much of the pill is needed.

I just recommend this because it sounds like you really have been hard on your veins, and should probably let them recover.

 

[Pusherman]

My veins will not recover. There is no technique to save me..ever since I went to that damn hospital, and went crazy trying to shoot H like I just did with coke, my veins are gone, especially in the places that are most safe. You ever hear of permanent vein collapse?

This sounds fucked up - but I always thought I would end my life before old age or disease, homless, jail ever happened. I always thought IV'g a big dose of heroin if I can't coupe any wore than I can now would be pretty peaceful. Maybe, not being to able to IV will keep me alive a little longer, or maybe I will just die a potentially painful death instead, or worse end up living with permanent damage.

king of harm reduction.

 

[Pegasus]

^Yeah, so you agree that your veins could use a break. I think a lowish dose of Suboxone could be useful to you as an antidepressant; for me and many others, buprenorphine seems to work really well for improving attitude and life in general.

It's good to hear you're doing (relatively) alright... your posts earlier really had me worried.

 

[dwade2009]

just like the NFL Sunday countdown special: C'MON man!!! all this poking and turning your body into a pin cushion is going to be detrimental to your health.

recommendation: blow that shit down man. Many drugs can be used intravenously, this is not one of them (under your circumstances)

 

[Pusherman]

I snorted 6mgs of suboxone, surprised it didn't make me barf like I seen it do with doses as low as 2mg with some people sublingally. I kept on nodding in and out off and night and feeling really good, but that was mostly likely because I took it with 30 mg of xanax, and may of caught a buzz from it. I notice the buzz because usually I dont feel zilch which is what its supposed to do I guess, last time I stopped taking it because I didn't even feel it doing anything. I have treatment resistant depression and my psych is getting rid of me like the last one because i'm too much trouble because nothing works on me. Wont hurt to give bupe another shot I guess, just wish I could at least, if not get high feel something good from it. Another thing is I cant take is sub-lingual because it makes me want to vomit every time. So does the drip when snorted but it isn't as bad I guess. I have a limited supply because I was kicked off health insurance. Still wish I could learn to inject them so I don't have to do as much and not have to worry about running out, plus it seem more enjoyable, which I do want to enjoy it since I can abstain by myself from opiate because I no longer have connects, or any money as I don't work, and i dont use subs reg cuz they dont seem worse the hassle. But I am going to retest it anti d potential because god knows I could use it.