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Benzos boost or dull opiate experience?

skrewler said:
This is how a friend ended up OD'ing. Took some Xanax and was shooting heroin all night, they found him with the syringe still in his arm.

Please be careful.
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Im really sorry about what happen to your friend but shit like this is makes me mad,U SHOULD NEVER BE SHOTING HERION AND TAKING BENZOS.BIG NO NO.
Come on people,is this harm reduction?

I will admit,every now and then ill take a 1/2 mg of xanax and some vics or percs for pleasure. But NEVER 4 mgs of benzos and 80 mgs of oxy...Bad but fun combo.be careful all u bluelighters out there.
Much love
 
ive only mixed oxycodone and xanax but ive done it many times, and ive found that it boosts bodily sedation but totally kills the euphoria, but then again everytime ive mixed the two i ended up doing a moderate dose of alpraz(around 6mgs) so i could see how a small dose(around 2mgs) might boost sedation without killing the euphoria

sub21lime said:
Im really sorry about what happen to your friend but shit like this is makes me mad,U SHOULD NEVER BE SHOTING HERION AND TAKING BENZOS.BIG NO NO.
Come on people,is this harm reduction?
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How is what skrewler said anything but harm reduction? He shared an unfortunate story about his friend relating to the subject at hand and warned fellow bluelighters to be careful
 
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Oh ROXIanne! said:
ive only mixed oxycodone and xanax but ive done it many times, and ive found that it boosts bodily sedation but totally kills the euphoria, but then again everytime ive mixed the two i ended up doing a moderate dose of alpraz(around 6mgs) so i could see how a small dose(around 2mgs) might boost sedation without killing the euphoria
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I feel the same. If i have enough opiate, im not mixing in benzos. But if i'm low and needing to make it last, benzos potentiate the opiate effect to help me stay comfterble while being on a low opiate dose. But if too much benzo is taken, its "removes" the euphoria (or makes me not be able to realize or enjoy it) and adds lots of sedatation+ drooling+ memory loss. I remember when I used to get frustrated trying to get high on opiates, I'd end up eating a bar or a few, and then I'd be waking up every 10-15 minutes looking at the pool of drool in my lap, then nod off again lol.
 
Oh ROXIanne! said:
ive only mixed oxycodone and xanax but ive done it many times, and ive found that it boosts bodily sedation but totally kills the euphoria, but then again everytime ive mixed the two i ended up doing a moderate dose of alpraz(around 6mgs) so i could see how a small dose(around 2mgs) might boost sedation without killing the euphoria



How is what skrewler said anything but harm reduction? He shared an unfortunate story about his friend relating to the subject at hand and warned fellow bluelighters to be careful
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because this whole thread is on mixing benzos with opiates...a deadly combo.
 
Depending on the benzo, for me 7.5mg Midazolam just after my dose then maybe after 3-4 hrs another 7.5mg Midazolam always boasts it for hours on end.

I've tried Alprazolam, Bromazepam, Prazepam, Nimetrazepam, Nitrazepam, Flunitrazepam and these just dulls the subutex high.

Midazolam works best as a boast for me
 
i take klonopin with oxycodone and fentanyl and soma and valium (all rxed) and don't notice anything other then being high from the oxy and fent if i am vaping that while on the others
 
I think the most important thing

is the ratio of the opiate and the ratio of the benzo that is being ingested. All the people here who have said that benzos dull the opiate high, I think they just didn't consume the correct ratio. I believe that a higher amount of opiates is needed and maybe only a little bit of a benzo should make the whole experience a lot better. Maybe something like 85% opiate and 15% benzo.

Of course there are people who love the nodding aspect of opiates, and they would benefit from taking a larger amount of benzos along with their opiates.

PeAcE
 
Am I the only person on bluelight that does not like valium at all :\ , and I find it a VERY depressing benzo that doesn't touch my Anxiety, I just find that it makes me feel very 'flatlined and dull', whereas Xanax, and Clonazepam work miracles for my Anxiety and Panic Attacks.

As for the original posters question; I find that smaller doses go well with Oxycodone. Since I am both physically dependent on both Opiates, and Benzo's, I am waiting to get into a detox facility up here in Alberta. (We don't have many around the Calgary area here, or anywhere in Alberta, Canada for that matter.) Most doctors here are very not that knowledgeable when it comes to dealing with Addiction issues. :!

A dose of 0.25mg of 0.5mg of Alprazolam with your Oxycodone is a pretty nice combo. But as soon as you start to overdue it with the benzo's, then the benzo tends to override the opiate / opioid that you took. :\ --- Another thing to keep in mind is that snorting Oxycodone is almost a complete waste, since the intranasal MOA tends to have quite low Bioavailability (~Below 50% anyway). If Oxycodone tends to be your DOC, than I suggest you always take it Orally. The best way I find is if you suck on them in your mouth for a minute and then start chewing them down, and chew up really really good! Then you are in for a fun ride.

Even IVing OxyContin is not really worth it either, unless some people care so much about an extra 13% bioavailability.. then sure, go for it. Orally, Oxycodone's bioavailability varies anywhere from ~82% - 87%. I'm sure there will be a lot of people that disagree with me, and I have no intention of starting a flame war here, just wanted to state my opinion.

I've also been using Oxy's for about 5 years, and Benzodiazepines for about 7 years off and on. I have tried snorting Oxy's, and I was very quite disappointed. I cannot speak for IVing, because I never have, and I never want to because I have too much of an Addictive Personality, and I know if I was to start IVing opiates that I would never be able to get myself clean, IMO.

Sorry for the long post everybody, and thanks to those of you that read it all. If you are going to be doing a combination of mixing Benzo's w/ Opiates, please keep in mind that this can also be a VERY dangerous combination if you are both opiate naive, and benzo naive. Otherwise keep safe, and have fun! :)

Cheers from Canada.
 
This is a really awsome way to kill yourself. The narcan isnt going to save you from falling asleep and not waking up with this combo. So think really hard about it before you eat those pills.
 
It typically dulls the rush and the stimulation I get form mu-agonism, but it does synergize some of the depressant effects.
 
i find iv vallium and opiates a nice experience bit more chilling but like sum one said small amount ofvallium like half a 2ml vial but like people have said yu have to be careful as can be dangerous combination esp in less tolerant dudes
 
IME benzos, as well as zolpidem dull the opiate euphoria. I never combine them anymore.
 
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Ok so to be honest Im not a big fan of opiates but the few times I have taken Xanax or Valium with Oxy has resulted in a much "heavier" experience. I actually don't tend to get off on opiates when i take them alone (yes i know there must be something wrong with me), but with some benzos added in i feel that the experience is always amplified. Just my personal experience.
 
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i have to say this is swims first post just happened to stumble upon it tonight, and as posted in previous post your right when swims supply is low or swim cannot get what he really wants he resorts to this. this is swims first time swim has tried this but about one and a half hours ago swim took 1 1/2 mg of xanax, then about 45 minutes later when the xan's reached peak swim snorted a 15 mg roxi. i have to say nice. swim is not used to mixing but when low it helps. swims tolerance is usually lining up one 80mg oxy and strawing it up the nose so hope this helps.
 
I find it's a roll of the dice. I have scripts for lortab 10/500, and klonopin .5. I never take more than one tab, then start with .25 of the benzo and work up. Somtimes I feel really euphoric for a few hours and other times just really sleepy and unplseant. Wish I knew what made the difference...
 
I think that benzos can make an opiate high more enjoyable if used at the right doses. If I'm low on opiates I find a a decent dose of benzos does the trick, sometimes. and even if I have a decent amount of opiates sometimes ill take a small amount of benzo just to chill me out a little more, because certain opiates, mainly Oxy, perks me right up, definitely a stimulating high. So sometimes I like to add a little benzo so my high is more chilled out and noddy.
 
This thread doesn't seem to be too old so I'll throw in my $0.02. SWIM absolutely loves a good opiate buzz. the euphoria is unmatched by anything in SWIM's opinion and throwing in a benzo just kills the euphoria. Then again, SWIM has never enjoyed a benzo even by itself until SWIM started on valium for his back spasms. This has served as a miracle drug, but it still kills any euphoria that SWIM might get from his Oxy.
 
You don't need to use SWIM here. :) we all know it's you and it makes your posts difficult to read.
 
Pretty much, not to mention that it's pretty dangerous.. I really don't see how anyone can enjoy getting 'high' off of benzos, maybe if you're really tight wound to begin with finally being able to relax or whatever must be nice.

Getting totally hammered is a similar experience to Benzos I guess, except it doesn't just knock you out and make you sleepy. GHB is also much much better than Benzos. Anteretrograde amnesia is so much fun!

Then again, I don't understand people getting high off vicodin, ambien, or whatever else these crazy kids are doing these days. If you're going to use, might as well actually use some good drugs (cocaine and/or heroin). pfft
 
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