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The Mephedrone Thread (4-mmc)

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How do we know if we are getting 4-mmc compared to mdma in caps? (other than test kit)

what are the noticeable differences, ways to tell?

sorry cant be bothered reading through 17 pages.
 
^ while probably not the best advice in terms of "harm reduction" you could just snort some? 4-mmc will come on in a matter of minutes and the high is very short lived compared to MDMA. The dosages are pretty different too. If pure, 150-200mg would be a reasonable dose of 4-mmc whereas 100mg would be a decent dose of mdma.

A reagent testing kit is a far safer option though, they're not too expensive.
 
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Pretty sure I found a cap of 4-mmc at my local station. Had a look/smelt the powder, smelt a bit like it but a tad more acrid/acidic? No way I was keeping/eating it though...could have been drano put there by some sick fuck hoping a junkie would shoot it...
 
belarki said:
^ while probably not the best advice in terms of "harm reduction" you could just snort some? 4-mmc will come on in a matter of minutes and the high is very short lived compared to MDMA. The dosages are pretty different too. If pure, 250mg would be a mid-sized dose of 4-mmc whereas 100mg would be a decent dose of mdma.
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would you consider 30 mins fast?

my mates did these supposdely 100mg mdma caps and they said, came on fast, lasted from 9-12:30 or so, could easily piss.

anyone more advice to determine?

i will be giving them a shot soon. :\
 
belarki said:
^ while probably not the best advice in terms of "harm reduction" you could just snort some? 4-mmc will come on in a matter of minutes and the high is very short lived compared to MDMA. The dosages are pretty different too. If pure, 250mg would be a mid-sized dose of 4-mmc whereas 100mg would be a decent dose of mdma.

A reagent testing kit is a far safer option though, they're not too expensive.
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Exactly what he said.
 
The taste is different. The rush is different. But seriously. Get a test kit.
 
if still crystal/rock and not powder mephedrone looks much bigger than MDMA in a bag, but that is no test, get a tets kit that will tell you if any MDXX like drug or intermediate is present.
We need new technology.
 
You guys wouldn't really be able to tell if i took a picture right? hhmmmm

also how is the rush different to mdma?
 
mickeyone there is a lot of information in this thread. read the entire thread. and you will learn alot. It will take about 30min. Just do it.

ps your answer is in there.
 
Mickeyone said:
You guys wouldn't really be able to tell if i took a picture right? hhmmmm

also how is the rush different to mdma?
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No one is going to be able to tell you what you've got by looking at a picture and it would be extremely irresponsible to even attempt such a thing. :\
 
MDMA pure crystal.....150mg....Oral.

Clean, Loved up, rushy, happy, strong effect of the MDMA, tactile. 2 days to fully recover

Mephedrone pure......150mg...Oral.

Clean, speedy, clarity of head, ability to redose, slightly loved up, weird sleep, increased heart beat. Slight sexual arousal. Slight afterglow the next day.

Methylone pure.........200mg...Oral.

Very similar to MDMA. Not as strong. The rushes are there, but very gentle. Controllable, friendly feeling, lots of clarity, ability to redose. Feeling fine the next day.

IMO.....Methylone, due to it's clarity, its similar MDMA like feel and the fact that next day one is back to normal....wins it for me.

bk-MDMA (Methylone) is a very interesting product. It doesn't force you into a place like MDMA does, rather it is far more subtle and refined. It makes you feel very, very friendly in a normal way. You can have discussions with confidence and still feel like you having a delicious ride.

It will be interesting to see what level of awareness this product has in 5-10 years time.
 
BongoBongo said:
MDMA pure crystal.....150mg....Oral.

Clean, Loved up, rushy, happy, strong effect of the MDMA, tactile. 2 days to fully recover

Mephedrone pure......150mg...Oral.

Clean, speedy, clarity of head, ability to redose, slightly loved up, weird sleep, increased heart beat. Slight sexual arousal. Slight afterglow the next day.

Methylone pure.........200mg...Oral.

Very similar to MDMA. Not as strong. The rushes are there, but very gentle. Controllable, friendly feeling, lots of clarity, ability to redose. Feeling fine the next day.

IMO.....Methylone, due to it's clarity, its similar MDMA like feel and the fact that next day one is back to normal....wins it for me.

bk-MDMA (Methylone) is a very interesting product. It doesn't force you into a place like MDMA does, rather it is far more subtle and refined. It makes you feel very, very friendly in a normal way. You can have discussions with confidence and still feel like you having a delicious ride.

It will be interesting to see what level of awareness this product has in 5-10 years time.
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U forgot to mention that 4mmc only last for bout 1.5 hours where MDMA lasts 4-5 atleast and ull still have an afterglow effect unlike 4mmc where u will feel totally sober when u have come off it.
 
^^ Apart from the speedy shit feeling ugh...

BK is great taken orally I think...total waste when you snort it imo, but orally it's fantastic. Subtle and refined is a perfect way to put it, no chargey peak...you just sort of realise after a while that you're completely f**ked =P
 
so is this stuff still legal in aus? or has it been banned yet?
considering ordering some..
 
In my area of NSW there are clear gel capsules going around with a white substance in them that doesn't show up on a test kit but gets you very, very off your head. Increased heart rate, increased energy, a bit of euphoria and a very social urge to talk to everyone and meet new people. I suspected methamphetamine but recieved no such reaction. Could this be Mephedrone?
 
blacktusk said:
In my area of NSW there are clear gel capsules going around with a white substance in them that doesn't show up on a test kit but gets you very, very off your head. Increased heart rate, increased energy, a bit of euphoria and a very social urge to talk to everyone and meet new people. I suspected methamphetamine but recieved no such reaction. Could this be Mephedrone?
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Does the powder weigh 200-300mg? What does the substance look like? Meth is totally diferent lookin than 4mmc.
 
A few of my mates keep talking about a powdered substance that they refer to as 'Cal' or 'Cow' (I think so anyway) that they are getting in Adelaide. Could they be referring to Mephedrone? I refuse to indulge as i have no idea what it is..
 
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