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The Big & Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread - Round Two!

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The younger the cacti the less mescaline they contain. You might be lucky but I doubt you'll get much of an effect.
 
i'd plant them and let them grow a bit first, they're dead easy to grow.
That is, assuming you can resist eating them :)
 
Ismene said:
The younger the cacti the less mescaline they contain.
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this is true for peyote, but not for san pedro. yet the problem remains that the total amount of material would be too little to get a decent effect. so I'd also recommend to grow them and love them.
 
yeah man grow them shits and next year they will be twice the size.
 
ungelesene_bettlek said:
this is true for peyote, but not for san pedro. yet the problem remains that the total amount of material would be too little to get a decent effect. so I'd also recommend to grow them and love them.
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Are you saying that a baby san pedro contains as much mescaline as a 2 year old one?
 
actually younger san pedros contain more mescaline per weight than old ones, it is said, because the ratio of the wooden part increases with age.
 
so would there be any point extracting them now?? Or am i just going to prepare and drink that stuff for no reason? I definitely don't want to wait a year... at the most a few weeks (i got them for these holidays!).
 
I thought that the mescaline content was directly related to the level of environmental stress the plant has been through. ie: More stress = higher mescaline content. Something about how the plant uses mescaline to defend against infection and the like.
 
I seriously doubt with such a small amount of total cactus that you will get much of an effect. Best to plant them and care for them, and in year or three you'll have large cacti that you can take cuttings from and properly trip. Look at this as an opportunity to make some new friends and trip in a few years. :) And look for something else to trip for the holidays.
 
Taking san pedro for the first time

...and I am mostly clueless. I've done as much research as i can and still need to know some things. I just got some san pedro cuttings today (total of 36") and the ends of some of them are discolored (gray or yellow orange). I don't know if that is bad or not. I also don't know how much to take. I know it varies greatly but any recommendations?

But most importantly how should I prepare it? The day I'll be taking it, i wont have access to a stove or anything so I cant boil it. Should i just cut it into slices and eat it or what? And before I do anything, should I skin it or just cut the spikes out?

These all seem like very basic questions, but I searched and still have no idea.
 
^Have you checked the vauklts of Erowid- there is quite a few preparation methods in there. Personally, I would dry out the cactus, grind it up, add IPA and let sit for a week or so. After thatm, strain out solids, let the alcohol evap. and you'll end up with a tarry mescalinergic extract. Works better then trying to eat the catcus in pure form.

The way to get to the mescaline: remove the spines and peel the waxy skin (only the skin); you'll find that when you gouge out a spike that the skin can be gripped a bit easier from that point; and remove the green-jelly-like stuff (that contains most of the alkaloids)- discard the core.

Are the ends of your cuttings hard? Cactii will "callus" after a while- its not a bad sign.

If you can't get to a stove, try eating it- its revolting but can be done. I would advise drying it out though, and maybe encapsualting the dried remnants.

Happy cactii-ing :)
 
The ends aren't hard except for the core. For example, on the end of one, there is a dark black spot (like a bruised banana, but worse) and when touched it feels gooey and nasty [edit: pic below]. And some other ends appear yellow/orange in spots and appear to be lightly seeping something of the same color. I have heard that fresh cuttings can mold quickly and I do not know if this is mold or rot or if its normal.

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How long to you think I will have until they are useless/dangerous to take? or is it already too late? This is by far the worst one but the others have problems too.
 
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25 grams of peruvian torch, would that be a very weak trip, sorta weak trip, or moderate?
i know potency varies but i have never used peruvian and was just wonderin if ne one wouldnt mind given guestimates. also the reason why i ask is b/c from what i have gathered peruvian torch's are usually a little more potent then San P. Any thoughts from any out there?
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I did 50 grams of ground Peruvian Torch chips as my first psychedelic experience in about 25 years. It was thorough, to be sure, but never frightening or out of control. I've wondered a few times whether a half dose would have been better in some ways i.e. easier to get out and explore. A lot of reports I've read suggest you can get quite a bit from a 25 gram dose. In fact, I've read glowing accounts from people who've done doses in the 25-30 gram range. I would think it's a good place to start unless you really want a heavy experience.
 
^^ thank you for seein my post way up there and gettin back to me with an answer,

much appreciated, thanks
 
It depends on the strength of the cactus you have, but 25 can definitely be a decent trip. I've had really nice trips off 25-30 grams dried peruvian torch that ranged from mild to moderate in terms of effects
 
root said:
The ends aren't hard except for the core. For example, on the end of one, there is a dark black spot (like a bruised banana, but worse) and when touched it feels gooey and nasty [edit: pic below]. And some other ends appear yellow/orange in spots and appear to be lightly seeping something of the same color. I have heard that fresh cuttings can mold quickly and I do not know if this is mold or rot or if its normal.



How long to you think I will have until they are useless/dangerous to take? or is it already too late? This is by far the worst one but the others have problems too.
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yeah my cactus is doin that too, then again it got chopped up with a weedwacker...

but an answer to this question would help both of us out!!
 
That is definitely rot. Cut off the black, and about an inch surrounding it ASAP.
 
I'd say cut up the rotten portions, dry it out, and stick it into the freezer until use.

Or cut up the rotten portions, and eat it :D


Oh, and anyone got advice about San Pedro/cacti powder? How much to dose? Is it legit? Any sort of process needed? As strong as eating cuttings?
 
root said:
The ends aren't hard except for the core. For example, on the end of one, there is a dark black spot (like a bruised banana, but worse) and when touched it feels gooey and nasty [edit: pic below]. And some other ends appear yellow/orange in spots and appear to be lightly seeping something of the same color. I have heard that fresh cuttings can mold quickly and I do not know if this is mold or rot or if its normal.

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How long to you think I will have until they are useless/dangerous to take? or is it already too late? This is by far the worst one but the others have problems too.
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Thats pretty bad. I'd just cut my losses, and toss it.
Just because you cant see the rot in some places, doesn't mean its not happening. Cutting it off may be okay, but you don't know what little bugs are eating your cactus, either. (C. botulinum are particularly nasty buglets. Not something I'd gamble on.)
 
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