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Codeine Extraction

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blau1005 said:
Buying 12.8mg or 15mg is not a problem and can generally get in whatever size you want.
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the certain product with 15mg only comes in packets of 12. 5 packets per order is the largest one can buy online but it would be extremely rare that one would get away with that by walking into a chemist
 
^ Yes that is true. I meant more that you can get the 12.8mg in whatever size you want... although I have been in the chemist when people have asked for that 15mg product and got it with no questions asked (only one box of 12 though).

Will be trying a different brand this weekend, one that is regularly recommended on this board. Personally I have found one 10/500 brand that is a lot easier to crush up than others... we'll see how this new one goes... the 12.8 brands seem a lot harder to crush and have a lot more binder than the 10mg brands.
 
Hey guys, well I've just done a CWE on 64 8/500 pills. Drank the solution 15 mins ago so we'll see how we go!!!!

PS: As previously suggested I measured out 2 ml water per tablet, that's 128 ml in total (well I used 130 ml actually) to dissolve the tablets in.

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When you guys say SA, are you referring to South America? Because I'm going there next month (Columbia). Is it possible to get higher than 8/500 pills OTC? Any other niceities also available, like benzos perhaps?

Thanks a lot,

SS
 
serotonin-system said:
When you guys say SA, are you referring to South America? Because I'm going there next month (Columbia). Is it possible to get higher than 8/500 pills OTC? Any other niceities also available, like benzos perhaps?

Thanks a lot,

SS
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um..you are going to COLUMBIA! C O L U M B I A! any thing OTC would be the last thing on my mind.........enjoy 8o
 
filenet said:
the certain product with 15mg only comes in packets of 12. 5 packets per order is the largest one can buy online but it would be extremely rare that one would get away with that by walking into a chemist
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why not just buy the brand that sells the 12.8's in bottles of 100? or even the 8's in packs of 100? theyre easily obtained OTC. the chemist simply takes down your details (in every experience of mine, without asking to see ID:|)
 
dnaenterprises1@ya said:
Mr Blonde, what are the effects of repeated use of a drug on the CYP2D6 enzymes. What I mean is do the enzymes play any part in tolerance and addiction?? Can you deplete your enzymes from over-use? Would liver damage or hepatitis change your absorption of drugs?
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Interesting question! Well for a start, as you may know codeine itself inhibits CYP2D6 so long term use of codeine may have some sort of effect on the levels of it. I'm thinking along the lines of your body may try to compensate by increasing levels, though from experiences of codeine addicts on here I've heard from who found they 'topped out' their dose, this may not be the case or there may be a physical limit to it depending on your own biochemistry.

When talking about codeine specifically, CYP2D6 definitely can have an effect on addiction and tolerance; if you are a poor metabolizer or normal metabolizer of codeine, you are less susceptible to addiction then someone who gets more morphine out of the drug and can take their dose higher. That isn't to say there aren't codeine addicts around who use only 400mg, but for those who can dose higher they can obviously take their tolerance up a lot more and get more effects, and also suffer from increased WD symptoms.

With regards to liver damage or Hep C, interesting question as I myself had a Hep C scare not that long ago and so did some research into it and from what I remember it does have some effect on enzymes, and a quick google search now seems to confirm that CYP2D6 is targeted by HCV anti-bodies, I think this means it may reduce effectiveness of the enzyme?

I did some searching around as well for information about liver fibrosis and cirrhosis and it's effects on liver enzymes, I managed to find a study which showed that people who are rapid CYP2D6 metabolizers (i.e. get more out of codeine) are more likely to have fast fibrosis (faster progression of liver scarring), which is interesting. This was in the context of Hep C patients, but I wonder if it could also affect scarring as a result of APAP damage?

Crankinit said:
On that note, has anyone had any experience with stores asking for name/address when you buy large boxes? I know one guy who says the store asked for his details when he bought a 48 box of nurofen plus. Could just lie I guess, but thats kind of sketchy.
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In Brisbane they always ask from my experience; and not just for shady looking people either, my mother always has to give her name and address when she buys a large pack of Nurofen +, and I can assure you she doesn't look very suspect at all! :D
 
^Man, I get asked for ID just buying promethazine from a certain chemist. I usually respond with a seeya later alligator.

Guess looking junky like doesn't help. Except I'm not a junkie....:D
 
^you sexy thing, you;)

i have heard of people being asked for ID with promethazine as well, which i find kinda strange. we have a lot of chemists/pharmacies around for the size of our town:\

apparently they think im a law obiding citizen:D the only time i get ID checks is when i get my PSE.
 
^ they have to get your details and label it if you're buying 25mg tablets in QLD but not the lower dose ones. I guess it doesn't stop them from asking for ID anyway. I've been going through too much riko' lately and have noticed most chemists in inner Brisbane seem to ask for a driver's license rather than just writing down your name and address.... makes it somewhat harder to give them the old Jonathon Doe of 69 Main Street....
 
Wow you guys actually get asked for ID when buying codeine?

I have never been asked and i have bought the 100x10mg bottles LOL, I got asked once if this was for me and if i have ever used it before. Luckily that time they didn't have any stock of anything under 100 anyway but all the other times no questions asked not even the pharmacist coming out.
 
Yeah i usually buy 2 boxes of 72 nurofen pluses lol

If ur goin Columbia u can buy a gram of pure coke at the cost of a gram of weed.
 
belarki said:
^ they have to get your details and label it if you're buying 25mg tablets in QLD but not the lower dose ones. I guess it doesn't stop them from asking for ID anyway. I've been going through too much riko' lately and have noticed most chemists in inner Brisbane seem to ask for a driver's license rather than just writing down your name and address.... makes it somewhat harder to give them the old Jonathon Doe of 69 Main Street....
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i assume you're talking about the fortes. being a pain management patient i have no problem with simply saying to my dr "can i have a script for some fortes?" i dont mean to dicksize, but thats how it is for me personally. i dont get much more than some muscle relaxation and little analgesia.
 
I've never been asked for ID or name when buying promethazine, in the 10mg or 25mg packs. I agree that appearance makes a difference though - I try to go in in business atire and ask for the brand directly; makes a huge difference from going in in casual clothes and seeming like you don't know what you want.

Bought a 48 of the Chemist's Own tablets today, they only had the 24's on the shelf but the actual pharmacist was only too happy to get a larger box for me. Didn't even seem suspicious when I stalled in response to "And what sort of pain are you using them for?"... Must have been a while since I've been asked that, got rusty...

Interesting to see how they go. Much cheaper than others and always get a positive rep on here. Don't know whether to dose tonight or hold off till I get some nangs tomo...

EDIT: Motherfucker! Decided to do the CWE tonight, got it all done and was just cleaning up when I accidentally poured the water down the sink! I can't fucking believe I did that.

Maybe it's a good thing though, another 24 hrs and tolerance will definitely be back down to zero and I will have some nangs to enjoy with the codeine... Still though, sucks when you've chosen to dose something and you're all ready in anticipation then it fucks up at literally the last minute.

Btw the C/O tabs crush up easily but they filtered whiter than others. I think the Chemmart generic caplets crush up easier and definitely filter cleaner.
 
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