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[LSD Subthread] First time LSD

matt2012 said:
So is there some sort of threshold that you have to break through before you get the full effects? Does it take a few times of doing it before your brain catches on? Has anyone else experienced an increase in effects the more sessions you had?
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Somewhat.

First few times i did it, i had absolutely insane visuals to the point where everything looked cartoony and objects looked like they were melting. I havnt been able to recreate this since my first 4-5 trips.

But what i am noticing is, the more i do it.. the more i understand it, and the less 'confused' and 'blown out of the water' i am.. because i have a certain level of understanding on what my mind is going through.

It's almost like now, i take the blotter.. there's about a 1-2 hour transition period where my mind is entering this 'altered reality' that it knows and loves.. and once im there, i feel like i can operate under the most extreme mental capacity to the point where i feel like I've just improved my intelligence ten fold.

Visuals don't mean a lot to me and i usually see them more when im not even focusing on them. I am noticing that i seem to becoming ever more sensitive.. where 1 tab will do the trick.. which is fantastic.

Then again, im someone who trips for the mental aspect.. i love that mental clarity where i can piece together thoughts very easily, have an increased sense of memory and be able to speak more fluently then i ever could sober.
 
I am going to derail my own thread a bit to say that I never had any clairity or "Zen" moments or anything that people talk about. All of my trips were battles with myself I was never really able to work out what the fight was about but there was a huge conflict inside of me and it never got resolved. I never really understood that this battle exsisted until long after I quit using acid.

My trips all became about this battle and it soon became a war and when that happened acid was no longer appealing to me.

Maybe if I had someone there to act as a guide I could try again but I doubt I ever will...the war was too much for me.
 
matt2012 said:
I am going to derail my own thread a bit to say that I never had any clairity or "Zen" moments or anything that people talk about. All of my trips were battles with myself I was never really able to work out what the fight was about but there was a huge conflict inside of me and it never got resolved. I never really understood that this battle exsisted until long after I quit using acid.

My trips all became about this battle and it soon became a war and when that happened acid was no longer appealing to me.

Maybe if I had someone there to act as a guide I could try again but I doubt I ever will...the war was too much for me.
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Well it's calling you back. Take a shitload, sit alone in darkness and just meditate. You'll figure it out. It'll be bliss.
 
It'll be absolute horror give way to bliss.

Yuppa. Do it. You need it.
 
And there goes possibly the last of your sanity... Is there a history of psychiatric disorders in your family? If so it could be that the acid was propelling you to some sort of psychiatric crisis that resulted in a full blown condition. It's happened to a few people I know (including myself - acid precipitated the developmenty of manic depression. Not full blown, but hypomania, which isn't uncommon on my dad's side of the family). If that's the case, the last thing you should do is take another dose of acid as that could be the tipping point/trigger into florid symptoms and bouts of the family 'curse. (that's the impression my relatives have given me - a bit melodramatic, but that's one of the tell tale symptoms of hypomania!) If it's schizophrenia, then it's a pretty life changing condition, and not for the better.


Check things before doing something you'll regret. If you don't, then you've got no other source of your misery than your own ignorance. That's a pretty bitter place to be (I've had a couple of short bouts there & it's not a happy place)
 
robhr said:
Well it's calling you back. Take a shitload, sit alone in darkness and just meditate. You'll figure it out. It'll be bliss.
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I did this once.. and only once, purely to push the boundaries of my mind and see what was beyond 'death'. Absolutely terrifying fear.. but once it was over, words can not describe the pure bliss that ensued, an unbelievable liberating feeling from the clutch's of my mind.

That said i don't feel a need to do it again, at least not until later in my life.. it was pretty brutal.
 
fastandbulbous said:
And there goes possibly the last of your sanity... Is there a history of psychiatric disorders in your family? If so it could be that the acid was propelling you to some sort of psychiatric crisis that resulted in a full blown condition. It's happened to a few people I know (including myself - acid precipitated the developmenty of manic depression. Not full blown, but hypomania, which isn't uncommon on my dad's side of the family). If that's the case, the last thing you should do is take another dose of acid as that could be the tipping point/trigger into florid symptoms and bouts of the family 'curse. (that's the impression my relatives have given me - a bit melodramatic, but that's one of the tell tale symptoms of hypomania!) If it's schizophrenia, then it's a pretty life changing condition, and not for the better.


Check things before doing something you'll regret. If you don't, then you've got no other source of your misery than your own ignorance. That's a pretty bitter place to be (I've had a couple of short bouts there & it's not a happy place)
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He's already gone past the point that would have broken his brain.

ALSO, doing it the way I suggested is more or less a self psychotherapy session. Doing it the way where you run and hide is the one that will break your brain.
 
Well, I only did it once and it was definitely BUNK. Nothing happened to me, another friend who had never taken it before or two friends who had taken acid 100s of times.

But considering you've tried it 5 or 6x now, unless you got it from the same person every time and you don't know anyone who has tried it who has tripped, then that is probably not the case.
 
I did acid more than 5 or 6 times but not an exorbitant amount....Maybe 15-20 times total and varying amounts. But it was at the 5 or 6th trip that I noticed visual effects. Then after that, each time I tripped seemed stronger and stronger and towards the end of my use one hit would send me to a place where nothing else mattered but the battle in my mind. Everything was still there, Friends, house, walls, I knew where I was but the battle was the only thing that mattered even though it felt like I was being torn apart mentally.

I won't be taking acid again...for 2 reasons...one is after I stopped taking acid I found that there is history of mental illness in my family. I have an uncle and cousin that have been in and out of the whacko basket a few times since I stopped using. But mostly the reason is the war. I am too worried that the war is still there and that when it a war within yourself, there can be only one casualty.

I have thought about a moderate mushroom trip maybe. I found them to be more controlable and enlightening. They may be a better conduit for me.
 
It sould also be said that at the time, I was not interested in learning about myself when I was taking acid. I took it to get high and see things. I really didn't gain any insight until long after I stopped. I was looking to get high and have fun and when it wasn't fun anymore I quit. I wish I could go back to see what it wanted to show me.
 
robhr said:
He's already gone past the point that would have broken his brain.

ALSO, doing it the way I suggested is more or less a self psychotherapy session. Doing it the way where you run and hide is the one that will break your brain.
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Well, if he's already broken his brain, running can't make a difference. Your two statements override each other. Self-psychotherapy with psychedelics is very dangerous. You may have a chemical discrepancy which psychedelics will emphasise- you may have problem thought patterns that psychedelics may smooth out. But, in weighing it all up, the risk of damaging your physical brain is of greater import then possibly mending some strange mental structures.

Sitting in the dark on LSD isn't psychotherapy either. It may be hard for some people to grasp- that our brains contain the darkest,most wretched contents of all- some people don't have 'dark places' in their mind, or at least, they may not be as dark. I know that trying to remember past trauma's via psychedelics for me was a bad idea- the trauma, as such, was merely repeated and no insight was gained. There was no personal awakening, just a really bad feeling- in all, the whole confrontation with my past meant nothing.

True though is that negatvity is not even really negative until it reaches a thinking mind.
 
Uh oh, brain damage.

The darkness is so that nothing distracts you, not necessarily to put you in your darkest corners.

If the trauma was repeated and no insight was gained then you are just continuing to compartmentalize it. I should suggest taking moments inbetween insigt to practice EMDR.

If you're worried about doing it alone find an experienced guide.

Are you honestly trying to discredit psychedelic psychotherapy? Where are you?
 
^Haha I think there's a pretty significant difference between "psychedelic psychotherapy" and tripping out alone in a dark room. ;)
 
Nah. I guess. If the difference is having an experienced guide with you then yes. I guess.

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I guess.

By tripping alone in a dark room I don't just mean sitting there and staring at fractal patterns and pretty colours.
 
^ I'm with swilow 100% on this one (& I don't know where he is either... =D)


Little bit. You should do a higher dose your first time.
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Well it's calling you back. Take a shitload, sit alone in darkness and just meditate. You'll figure it out. It'll be bliss.
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It'll be absolute horror give way to bliss.

Yuppa. Do it. You need it.
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ALSO, doing it the way I suggested is more or less a self psychotherapy session.
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At the point where you wrote that, I can't see anything other than vague hint's at what to do, which isn't what anyone wants to be doing with anything as powerful as LSD


If the trauma was repeated and no insight was gained then you are just continuing to compartmentalize it. I should suggest taking moments inbetween insigt to practice EMDR.
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If they'd taken a large dose as you suggested, then your suggestions would be lost on somebody potentially on the verge of a psychiatric crisis
 
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First time acid..

Going to huge party and my friend is sayin i should take acid, shrooms, and ecstacy. Sounds intense as hell which is what i want but i Have never done acid before. I have done shrooms once before and a Grip of E over the last year but have never combined either with anything other than bud! is this combo a good idea for first time?
 
What kind of party is it going to be?

for a conventional "everyone's drunk as fuck" type of party i would stay away from psychs....

If the party is more of a rave, i would leave out the mushrooms and go with acid and ecstasy and just candyflip....

The only flip i have done was with 2c-i and MDMA, that was a nice combo that i would take if i just wanted to chill and trip balls....
 
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