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Russell Brand... your thoughts?

A read recently about another woman he silenced with an injunction and then forced his £40K legal costs onto her, which bankrupted her.

A very unpleasant man.
 
Even Jemimah Goldsmith has said she had to call the cops to hoy him out the house when he was being violent in 2014. She said "I have not spoken to the lairy cunt since"
 
Wow, I admit, that IS more than I expected.

Back to HMP Wandsworth (which at least I did correctly predict).

I noted how RB tried to maintain a faux faux Cockney hardman image OUTSIDE the court but apparently utterly switched to being ever so contrite INSIDE the court room. I noted RB doesn't seem to understand the 'permenance of objects' and I would be amazed if the judge hadn't monitored Brand's actions during the trial to see if that contrition was real - which we all know it wasn't.

Now RB WILL have to pay either his current legal team or a new team as an appeal has to be lodged within 28 days.

Now for people outside the UK - an appeal could potentially take YEARS to reach court and if it fails, the entire time spent in prison while appealing his sentence/guilt can be considered 'loss of time' i.e. the time spent appealing would not be considered part of his sentence. It's discretionary but if the judge sees 'no merit' i.e. it's merely a last ditch attempt then it WILL be treated as loss of time.

There are two more allegations of rape which RB has been interviewed in relation to, one being a 16 year old girl.

A second conviction would add a decade or more and I would be surprised if under questioning, RB hasn't done exactly the same as in the interviews that have been made public i.e. read from a carefully composed statement and refuse to answer any additional questions. Basically claiming not to recall anything.

So I suppose in the next 28 days we will have some idea of how RB is thinking. If that second tranche of complaints DOES reach court before any appeal, even guilt on one count would result in a much longer sentence and make any appeal essentially pointless UNLESS all three guilty verdicts are reversed.

He has already been classed as a VP so will spend his time in seg which is typically locked up 21 hours a day. As Tommy-Ten-Names proved, it's still possible to gain earned privilages. A few prisons have VP wings, but not many and not enough and with rule 45, it's first come, first served.

I should add that there are four HMPs whose inmates are ALL sex offenders but all of them are catagory C and I suggest RB would have to do most of his time before being put into a cat C.

Frankly, IF either of those other complaints make it to trial, I wouldn't be at all surprised if RB ended himself.
 
hear he is not doing well in there already -- much like diddy there are things money buys and things it doesn't and respect in prison with a sex crime is iffy. The diddy Christopher Dudus Coke(sp) thing is great and hopefully ya'll got some hardasses in Wandsworth (if i didnt get that right lmk - the prison name that is)
 
4DQSAR said:
@CfZrx - you are complaining about a post made over THREE years ago?

Are you certain you haven't posted anything that years later don't seem equally badly informed? Like using the appeal to anecdote logical fallacy again and again and again and again... just as a totally random example.

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How was i complaining? Just asked a direct, friendly question.
 
I noticed the judge coating him off for lying and denying the charges - but he did get off with 4 of the charges.

if he'd been "honest" and just pleaded guilty to it all he would have got twice as long
 
I read on social media that his defense barrister said that he did the rape. He essentially stated that following consensual vaginal intercourse, that for a short time, Brand lost control, and anally raped the woman.

If this is true, then it raises all sorts of questions?

Brand has no chance of appealling the verdict if even his defense has said he's guilty?

Surely defense should be in sync with their client or vice versa?

Does a defence legally have to declare the truth, as they deem it, and is it a criminal offense for them not to do so?

This was the 3rd time that woman had met brand, the first time she'd orally pleasured him. Then she was involved in a threesome with another woman, and she licked his anus. She came back for more a 3rd time!

To play Devil's advocate, Brand might be forgiven (to some extent) for thinking she was a slut with NO boundaries? Hence he marked "T" against her name on his phone, denoting "Tart."
 
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Ismene2 said:
I noticed the judge coating him off for lying and denying the charges - but he did get off with 4 of the charges.

if he'd been "honest" and just pleaded guilty to it all he would have got twice as long
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Maybe half of the charges were false?

It's weird that the jury only found him guilty of half of the charges.
 
The Epstein Island Elon Musk? The guy so dumb when he did finally get invited to the island he was like "I want an epic party, I dont wanna hang out with politicians and talk business my time is important" ---- 'elon you idiot, no business happens at the island'

The 20 kids who dont talk to him with baby mommas shittin on him in his docs elon??

Never! Birds of a feather and whatnot.

Sorry for the sarcastic tone I am sure you were not that surprised either
 
Well he (RB) sure fooled everybody. He had that thing where his eyes turned black and went evil.
And violent. Like they go through some kind of possession. He was probably blacking out on drugs
back then. He also was a predator. Also.
 
Bleaney said:
I read on social media that his defense barrister said that he did the rape. He essentially stated that following consensual vaginal intercourse, that for a short time, Brand lost control, and anally raped the woman.

If this is true, then it raises all sorts of questions?
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If it were true, it would explain why the KC only ever 'tested the proof' and didn't offer an alternative version of events - which IS what happened, AFAIK.

Most KCs would have withdrawn citing 'professional embarassment' depending on how close to the trial date the admissions were made.

So in answer to your question - no, the defence isn't required to share any 'private conversations'. But being private, it cannot be made public. So I question that the KC or any of RBs legal team made that claim. It's almost certainly a leak RB has engineered. Being hearsay, I don't believe it could be used in an appeal.

I said we would know within 28 days - I didn't think we would know in 24 hours.

As I noted, in the UK UNLESS the defence team feel the term excessive or new evidence comes to light, it would be turned down. Even if allowed, as noted it might not occur until the second tranche of cases which I GUESS this social media trick is designed to harm.

It strikes me that once again RB THINKS he's done something clever, but has failed to understand that hearsay isn't evidence.
 
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Ki3ly said:
Well he (RB) sure fooled everybody. He had that thing where his eyes turned black and went evil.
And violent. Like they go through some kind of possession. He was probably blacking out on drugs
back then. He also was a predator. Also.
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Why are we using past tense of 'was' and 'had' --- bit nitpicky perhaps.... I just hope noone is buying the presto changeo found christ bit

I dont think he was foolin anyone with that, oldest trick in the book. But maybe, there is certainly a rich historical precedence of it working
 
Russell is too much of a narcissist to kill himself. He knows without doubt everything that has been said online about how his conviction is “just because he’s been calling out governments and pharma”. He will find a new grift of proclaiming from prison an no doubt will bide his time and come out to the idiots who continue to follow him which seem to be quite a few after my glance at comment threads on social media, Reddit etc.

I’m looking forward to the civil suits coming his way.
 
notsmokeymcpot420 said:
Why are we using past tense of 'was' and 'had' --- bit nitpicky perhaps.... I just hope noone is buying the presto changeo found christ bit

I dont think he was foolin anyone with that, oldest trick in the book. But maybe, there is certainly a rich historical precedence of it working
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Welp, obviously it does work or he wouldn't be doing it, right.
 
MsDiz said:
Russell is too much of a narcissist to kill himself.
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I was under the impression that the suicide rate among narcissists was higher than the general population?

Not pseudosuicides or attempted suicides but effective removal from body.

I mentioned he would almost certainly be faced with either completing an SOPD OR ending up on basic.

Basic in seg is just about the worst punishment a UK prison has to offer. Plus of course, no remission.

So serving two and a half years extra hard-time while essentially being incommunicado (visits and letters are reduced under basic and of course all are censored).

People forget that - prison censors WILL be aware if content he creates ends up on social media as if his reasoning is 'conspiracy' and that's his audience, he's then profiting from his crimes. Coroners and Justice Act 2009 states: 'A qualifying offender is legally barred from "exploiting material" pertaining to their offence for financial benefit. He cannot even assign the profits to a third party as that is also covered by the act.

Would someone on seg RISK being ghosted to say HMP Wakefield?
 
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4DQSAR said:
I was under the impression that the suicide rate among narcissists was higher than the general population?

Not pseudosuicides or attempted suicides but effective removal from body.

I mentioned he would almost certainly be faced with either completing an SOPD OR ending up on basic.

Basic in seg is just about the worst punishment a UK prison has to offer. Plus of course, no remission.

So serving two and a half years extra hard-time while essentially being incommunicado (visits and letters are reduced under basic and of course all are censored).

People forget that - prison censors WILL be aware if content he creates ends up on social media as if his reasoning is 'conspiracy' and that's his audience, he's then profiting from his crimes.
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I've said it before, that he is very intelligent. Whether his ego can deal with admitting fault I don't know, but if he has a pragmatic side, he'll come to the obvious conclusion that it will shave years off his sentence if he does admit fault, and engages with the treatment program.

Whether he genuinely believes he did nothing wrong or not, because despite his not guilty pleas, he sent a text apologising to the woman he anally raped, when she eventually replied to a further invitation from Brand, for another meet up, declining his invitation, citing the way he had treated her previously.

The fact that he contacted her again at all, following the alleged rape, shows that he failed to recognise what he had allegedly done to that woman, and the seriousness of the matter, if true.

It could be that her account was not true, it was her word against his, and considering the previous history of their encounters, I don't think things would have gone her way, and against Brand, if there weren't so many other factors and cases going against him too. It could also be his apparent narcissism, leading him to believe that no woman could possibly say "No" to him and mean it.
 
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