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tryptakid said:
Get some clonidine prescribed to you - there are resources online - look on the quitting 7oh subs for guidance

Also excercise is helpful. Kratom is helpful but can turn into another addiction if you're not careful.
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If youre using kratom to deal with 7oh youre already dependant on kratom. Its a joke even with pure extracts it still contains all the minor alkaloids. Im gonna pop a proponol I think but idk never had it just know it is like catapress. Does it help with the restlessness thats the worst part
 
juicedup007 said:
Brother trust me ive tried lol

Obviously I dont want it bad enough

The few times ive had to piss clear ive done a week but fuck its brutal
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Man you get thru one week of the physical, then a week or two of the paws depression anxiety amd worst of all anehdonia and boredom, there's things you can do that'll help with thay but most just need tome. You can do it man im here with ya my first day off of totally everything and im moving like a worm, let's quit together rn mf do it, pussy you wont, you wont better your life with me cmon dont be a pussy 😄
 
Brother you’re a hero doing this without any Benzo !! Keep going !!! pop that damn propranolol 10mg you’ll relax a little and you can dose again later probably 10mg won’t cover you
 
cnnka said:
Brother you’re a hero doing this without any Benzo !! Keep going !!! pop that damn propranolol 10mg you’ll relax a little and you can dose again later probably 10mg won’t cover you
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Im worried it'll interact with the large lyrica dose now
 
Kurt Cobain said:
If youre using kratom to deal with 7oh youre already dependant on kratom. Its a joke even with pure extracts it still contains all the minor alkaloids. Im gonna pop a proponol I think but idk never had it just know it is like catapress. Does it help with the restlessness thats the worst part
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Can also throw out that if you're in a state with legal cannabis - CBG/CBN can be helpful as well.

From an AI summary but this is in congruence with my understanding:
CBG is a non-intoxicating precursor cannabinoid that acts as a partial agonist at CB2 receptors and alpha-2 adrenoceptors, while antagonizing 5-HT1A and TRPM8 receptors. It has low affinity for CB1 receptors, meaning it does not produce psychoactive effects or sedation. Instead, CBG modulates endocannabinoid signaling by inhibiting the reuptake of anandamide (via FAAH inhibition) and activates TRPV1 and TRPV2 channels. This multi-target mechanism is associated with daytime focus, anti-inflammatory effects, and neuroprotection.

CBN is a degradation product of THC that exhibits mild psychoactivity with a CB1 affinity of approximately 10% that of delta-9 THC. It functions primarily as a weak partial agonist at CB1 receptors, which drives its sedative and relaxing effects. CBN also activates TRPV2 channels and disrupts bacterial membranes. Unlike CBG, CBN’s pharmacology is dominated by its interaction with the central cannabinoid system, making it suitable for evening use and sleep support rather than daytime clarity.
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Clonidine's utility in opioid withdrawal comes from agonism at a2 receptors which CBG also has - managing excessive adrenaline which has an excitatory effect that goes wild during opioid withdrawal. It additionally reduces blood pressure which can be helpful as well. CBN is relaxing in general through it's impacts on the cannabinoid system having an anti-anxiety and focusing effect.

You're also right in that kratom itself isn't going to get you off of opioids, but in my experience, kratom can be very useful for tapering as it is less gripping than 7-oh. Though, @Skorpio has mentioned that 7-oh itself may actually be easier to taper as it is a more discrete chemical with a singular mechanism of action versus the broad and sloppy effects profile of full spectrum kratom alkaloids which operate on a number of different systems in different ways.

I can also suggest using memantine or some other NMDA receptor antagonist if accessible.
 
tryptakid said:
Can also throw out that if you're in a state with legal cannabis - CBG/CBN can be helpful as well.

From an AI summary but this is in congruence with my understanding:


Clonidine's utility in opioid withdrawal comes from agonism at a2 receptors which CBG also has - managing excessive adrenaline which has an excitatory effect that goes wild during opioid withdrawal. It additionally reduces blood pressure which can be helpful as well. CBN is relaxing in general through it's impacts on the cannabinoid system having an anti-anxiety and focusing effect.

You're also right in that kratom itself isn't going to get you off of opioids, but in my experience, kratom can be very useful for tapering as it is less gripping than 7-oh. Though, @Skorpio has mentioned that 7-oh itself may actually be easier to taper as it is a more discrete chemical with a singular mechanism of action versus the broad and sloppy effects profile of full spectrum kratom alkaloids which operate on a number of different systems in different ways.

I can also suggest using memantine or some other NMDA receptor antagonist if accessible.
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Ya id taper with 7oh nratom hooks yabdast andnbad
 
Kurt Cobain said:
Man you get thru one week of the physical, then a week or two of the paws depression anxiety amd worst of all anehdonia and boredom, there's things you can do that'll help with thay but most just need tome. You can do it man im here with ya my first day off of totally everything and im moving like a worm, let's quit together rn mf do it, pussy you wont, you wont better your life with me cmon dont be a pussy 😄
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Haha maybe next week bro.

Gonna wait till I have some solid time off life 😭
 
tryptakid said:
Can also throw out that if you're in a state with legal cannabis - CBG/CBN can be helpful as well.

From an AI summary but this is in congruence with my understanding:


Clonidine's utility in opioid withdrawal comes from agonism at a2 receptors which CBG also has - managing excessive adrenaline which has an excitatory effect that goes wild during opioid withdrawal. It additionally reduces blood pressure which can be helpful as well. CBN is relaxing in general through it's impacts on the cannabinoid system having an anti-anxiety and focusing effect.

You're also right in that kratom itself isn't going to get you off of opioids, but in my experience, kratom can be very useful for tapering as it is less gripping than 7-oh. Though, @Skorpio has mentioned that 7-oh itself may actually be easier to taper as it is a more discrete chemical with a singular mechanism of action versus the broad and sloppy effects profile of full spectrum kratom alkaloids which operate on a number of different systems in different ways.

I can also suggest using memantine or some other NMDA receptor antagonist if accessible.
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Some pretty big caveats with tapering using the 7OH, is that you need to keep the dose under control. It is a lot easier to creep up on that stuff than kratom, but breaking those 14 mg tablets into quarters did give me a great deal of control.
 
Ok so I need the following

proponol
lyrica
Clonidine
Kratom
loperamide

Which benzos do you guys recommend?

Anyone try using high dose vit c and nac?

Not to worried about sleeping.

I just get an overall body ache and become super edgy and rude towards other humans lol
 
juicedup007 said:
Ok so I need the following

proponol
lyrica
Clonidine
Kratom
loperamide

Which benzos do you guys recommend?

Anyone try using high dose vit c and nac?

Not to worried about sleeping.

I just get an overall body ache and become super edgy and rude towards other humans lol
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Valium or kpins id only take clonsodine alone and not with proponol prop just works in a pinch
 
juicedup007 said:
Ok so I need the following

proponol
lyrica
Clonidine
Kratom
loperamide

Which benzos do you guys recommend?

Anyone try using high dose vit c and nac?

Not to worried about sleeping.

I just get an overall body ache and become super edgy and rude towards other humans lol
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Clonidine or propranolol not the two together I take propranolol cause I’m comfortable with this med.
For Benzo Valium or kpins I use Xanax bc that’s what I have and it’s working great.

You don’t need Kratom and lope as they both “opioids” I wouldn’t take any Kratom at all if I was you it’s like you take a micro dose 7OH , and if you’re detoxing from high dosage 7OH maybe it can make it worse ? ( due to other stimulating alkaloids)
And if you take Kratom then you’ll have to detox from Kratom.

For me detoxing is full of Xanax , hydroxyzine if I can’t sleep or I want the anxiolytic effects of Xanax to last longer , and propranolol if heart rate and restlessness are unbearable.

I used really low dosage of 7 last week for 3-4 days in a row and I had a “light” withdrawal for 4 days.
 
cnnka said:
Clonidine or propranolol not the two together I take propranolol cause I’m comfortable with this med.
For Benzo Valium or kpins I use Xanax bc that’s what I have and it’s working great.

You don’t need Kratom and lope as they both “opioids” I wouldn’t take any Kratom at all if I was you it’s like you take a micro dose 7OH , and if you’re detoxing from high dosage 7OH maybe it can make it worse ? ( due to other stimulating alkaloids)
And if you take Kratom then you’ll have to detox from Kratom.

For me detoxing is full of Xanax , hydroxyzine if I can’t sleep or I want the anxiolytic effects of Xanax to last longer , and propranolol if heart rate and restlessness are unbearable.

I used really low dosage of 7 last week for 3-4 days in a row and I had a “light” withdrawal for 4 days.
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Awesome sounds good

Again thank you everyone that has taking time to respond.
 
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