outerealmseekadventr
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Very interesting, I don't know you can expound on this, you mention sulfate and HCL.Hemisulfate is 2 molecules of mescaline joined to one molecule of sulfuric acid whereas mescaline (mono)sulfate is one molecule of mescaline to one molecule of sulfuric acid. The difference is the final pH of the solution when salting out mescaline with sulfuric acid. Around pH 6, it exists primarily as the hemisulfate whereas pH 3 it is primarily monosulfate. Generally speaking, the HCL salt is considered the standard as it is the most potent salt form.
One could test this by taking 100g of Mescaline hemisulfate, dissolving in water and basifying to pH 11. Then, using sulfuric acid slowly bring down to pH 3 with stirring, filter and dry the crystals they will weigh 119.3g. You will get more of a less potent salt form by doing this.
Mescaline freebase = 211.261g/mole
Mescaline (mono)sulfate = 309.34g/mole - 211.261/309.34 x 100 = 68.29% Mescaline
Mescaline hemisulfate = 520.594g/mole (211.261 x 2)/520 x100 = 81.16% Mescaline
Mescaline hydrochloride = 247.72g/mole 211.26/247.72 x 100 = 85.28% Mescaline
I guess just to be all inclusive I will add the weights of anhydrous citrate and sesquihydrous citrate (commonly made using the CIELO extraction tek)
Mescaline citrate anhydrous = 403.38g/mole = 211.261/403.38 x 100 = 52.3% mescaline
Mescaline citrate (sesquihydrate) = 430.4g/mole = 211.4/430.4 x 100 = 49.08% mescaline
I've never seen mescaline phosphate so I'll skip that one. I might as well make a dedicated thread regarding the different salt forms so people can use it to determine precise dosage in the future.
I read the HCL salt is the only acid combination that evaporates completely in mescaline extraction? other salts, acids need to be titrated in the final extraction product?
Yet HCL is hygroscopic and retains water that's a negative isn't it ? Does sulfate evaporate completely? Needs to be titrated out of the final product?

