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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 What Was YOUR Nightly Fix? v. Smoking the Midnight Oil

Usually its my normal pharms,
150mg Lamotrigine
400mg Lithium
150mg Trazadone
Then it's 10mg or 20 mgs of THC edible for sleep.
 
10mg methadone
3.6g gabapentin
.3mg clonidine

Had some edibles earlier in the day, 2 x 40mg thc gummies and a 100mg soda, plus been dabbing some beautiful Sunset OG live resin throughout the day, about to have another one before bed. Pretty chill day overall. 👍
 
Hey! Welcome back! Are you better now?

Hey, thanks. 🙂 ❤️ Yeah I'm good, had a real rough patch a couple months ago, finally paused the methadone taper about a month ago (down to 20mg daily from 170) and just completed an out of state move last week. Been lurking some but mostly not posting. I'm doing much better though... more or less leveled out from the taper stoppage, over 2 months no alcohol or nitrous, which had become problem substances, and I'm in a better living situation surrounded by more opportunities. So no complaints here. How are things with you these days?
 
Hey, thanks. 🙂 ❤️ Yeah I'm good, had a real rough patch a couple months ago, finally paused the methadone taper about a month ago (down to 20mg daily from 170) and just completed an out of state move last week. Been lurking some but mostly not posting. I'm doing much better though... more or less leveled out from the taper stoppage, over 2 months no alcohol or nitrous, which had become problem substances, and I'm in a better living situation surrounded by more opportunities. So no complaints here. How are things with you these days?
Good to hear from you man, glad to hear you're doing well
 
Hey, thanks. 🙂 ❤️ Yeah I'm good, had a real rough patch a couple months ago, finally paused the methadone taper about a month ago (down to 20mg daily from 170) and just completed an out of state move last week. Been lurking some but mostly not posting. I'm doing much better though... more or less leveled out from the taper stoppage, over 2 months no alcohol or nitrous, which had become problem substances, and I'm in a better living situation surrounded by more opportunities. So no complaints here. How are things with you these days?
Wow, you managed without stepping back up! 😲🎉👍
Thank you for asking 🙏 I'm down to a pretty low dose now - and couldn't resist trying whether I'd be able to get high again - as I always did after any taper so far 🙄. .. Wasn't satisfied and had to pay for that, too, or rather I still do, fatigue- wise.. It's gonna take a lot more to get over the habit, and I'm not sure whether I'll be able to or when I'll finally believe that it's never going to be that good again 😮‍💨... 😅 Sorry 😅
 
It's gonna take a lot more to get over the habit, and I'm not sure whether I'll be able to or when I'll finally believe that it's never going to be that good again 😮‍💨...
Or maybe there's just nothing but to keep going just for today...
OT:
~30 mg Quetiapine, still woke up at 4:xx a.m., but okay. Gives me the chance to take my meds early and be on time for breakfast...
 
35mg Adderall XR like 11 hours ago
300mg + caffeine thru the day
50mg or so of IPPH through out the day
22mg SR-17018 (for kratom/7-OH dependency) 2 doses 8 hours apart
I should take another 20mg or so before bed.
30mg or so THC in the form of RSO
900mg Gabapentin
50mg Spironolactone

Gonna roll a joint. Gonna smoke a joint

Then I'll take 2-4mg of eszopiclone, however much it takes

oh, and 100mg Hydroxyzine cuz I can
 
35mg Adderall XR like 11 hours ago
300mg + caffeine thru the day
50mg or so of IPPH through out the day
22mg SR-17018 (for kratom/7-OH dependency) 2 doses 8 hours apart
I should take another 20mg or so before bed.
30mg or so THC in the form of RSO
900mg Gabapentin
50mg Spironolactone

Gonna roll a joint. Gonna smoke a joint

Then I'll take 2-4mg of eszopiclone, however much it takes

oh, and 100mg Hydroxyzine cuz I can
Interesting. How's the taper going?
 
Interesting. How's the taper going?
Great! Thanks for asking ☺️

I used mainly 7-OH but also some occasional Kratom leaf on and off (mostly on) for like 2 months? maybe even three months? I started at 20-80mg 7-OH at night then by the end it was 120mg-240mg 7-OH at night. Started to find myself needing 20mg to get through the last couple of hours at work and that's when I decided to try the SR-17018. I did no taper with the 7-OH or Kratom before hand. Just dropped them on the first day of my weekend. 28mg of SR-17018 every 8-10 hours the first day, then dropping 2 or 3mg per dose every 1-2 days.

Today is one week since dropping the mitragynine products and beginning SR-17018. I woke up today feeling some restlessness in my legs, so I took 18mgshortly after waking and now I feel fine. My plan was to drop the SR-17018 today. We'll see how long until I feel the need for another dose.

SR-17018 is amazing stuff though. No real high although my first 2 or 3 doses I could "feel". Not high, but definitely off baseline. Psychoactive? Yes. Recreational? Not at all.

One more thing of note, when I'm in WD and take SR-17018, it can take a while to really ease most of the symptoms, which can lead to thinking that you undershot the dose and need more. I find it takes a few hours to reach full effect. Relief from some WD symptoms can be felt within 30 minutes or so on an empty stomach. However, very mild symptoms may persist for another 2 or 3 hours before easing the majority, if not all of the symptoms. I was able to go the whole week without hardly ever thinking about kratom or 7-OH. I was able to get through a very busy work week, no problem.

For people who are hopelessly addicted to fentanyl, heroin, high doses of pharmaceutical opioids, etc; I personally think that Buprenorphine is still the best first step for them. Buprenorphine covers symptoms and most importantly, cravings, much more so than SR-17018. Considering the possibility of SR-17018 reducing tolerance to opioids, I think that Suboxone/Buprenorphine is the safest bet for people at high risk of relapse.

SR-17018 I think is best for people who are building a habit that they don't like, or who are starting to enter physical addiction. It's great for people who started on buprenorphine and now want to be 100% opioid free. So far, SR-17018 is miraculous stuff and an insanely valuable tool. It very much has a place in recovery and should be utilized by medical professionals/psychiatry.


To stay on topic:

Morning:
10mg IPPH intranasal
200mg Caffeine
35mg Adderall XR
300mg Gabapentin
18mg SR-17018

Afternoon:
5mg Adderall XR
10mg IPPH intranasal
34mg Caffeine
300mg Gabapentin
500mg Paracetamol
3 hits of a dab pen
another 30-40mg Adderall XR after my Doctor apt

Evening:
50mg Spironolactone
600mg Gabapentin total
More caffeine, weed, IPPH, and likely Adderall; time will tell

Night time:
Maybe some acid? MDMA? Just weed? More addy? Time will tell
 
lately my go to at night has been ketamine, don’t buy it often but i tend to run thru it quick when i do. i have a script for pregabalin, 450mg a day (150mg 3x daily) too which it pairs very well with. great way to relax at the end of a day
 
Hey all!
I know it's been a while since I posted, been doing very good avoiding fentanyl, actually have been pissing clean uas at the clinic which has amazed all and sundry. Still using meth occasionally but that was less a problem in the first place. Been focusing on writing which has been really fulfilling. Tonight I've been getting fucked up with friends and making a vision board. My intake:

5 g psilocybe cubensis
3 bowls methamphetamine
220 mg methadone
3000 mg gabapentin
50 mg ketamine

Hope everyone is staying safe! Love and light.
 
Great! Thanks for asking ☺️

I used mainly 7-OH but also some occasional Kratom leaf on and off (mostly on) for like 2 months? maybe even three months? I started at 20-80mg 7-OH at night then by the end it was 120mg-240mg 7-OH at night. Started to find myself needing 20mg to get through the last couple of hours at work and that's when I decided to try the SR-17018. I did no taper with the 7-OH or Kratom before hand. Just dropped them on the first day of my weekend. 28mg of SR-17018 every 8-10 hours the first day, then dropping 2 or 3mg per dose every 1-2 days.

Today is one week since dropping the mitragynine products and beginning SR-17018. I woke up today feeling some restlessness in my legs, so I took 18mgshortly after waking and now I feel fine. My plan was to drop the SR-17018 today. We'll see how long until I feel the need for another dose.
How'd it go?
SR-17018 is amazing stuff though. No real high although my first 2 or 3 doses I could "feel". Not high, but definitely off baseline. Psychoactive? Yes. Recreational? Not at all.

One more thing of note, when I'm in WD and take SR-17018, it can take a while to really ease most of the symptoms, which can lead to thinking that you undershot the dose and need more. I find it takes a few hours to reach full effect. Relief from some WD symptoms can be felt within 30 minutes or so on an empty stomach. However, very mild symptoms may persist for another 2 or 3 hours before easing the majority, if not all of the symptoms. I was able to go the whole week without hardly ever thinking about kratom or 7-OH. I was able to get through a very busy work week, no problem.
😎 Hope it's a sustainable outcome! It's been a while but I believe that I also noticed it takes quite a bit for fully taking effect
For people who are hopelessly addicted to fentanyl, heroin, high doses of pharmaceutical opioids, etc; I personally think that Buprenorphine is still the best first step for them. Buprenorphine covers symptoms and most importantly, cravings, much more so than SR-17018. Considering the possibility of SR-17018 reducing tolerance to opioids, I think that Suboxone/Buprenorphine is the safest bet for people at high risk of relapse.
🤔 Interesting thought. But besides all justified doubts about the real potency of what is sold as 7oh - imo 200 mg+ of 7oh is not little. A single week on 40-60 mg/day had me in terrible WD that I couldn't catch with Kratom leaf and that was absolutely on par with H (that also in very limited doses)... I can but be amazed at the fact that anyone can abuse this stuff sm and just walk away like it's not a big deal.
SR-17018 I think is best for people who are building a habit that they don't like, or who are starting to enter physical addiction. It's great for people who started on buprenorphine and now want to be 100% opioid free. So far, SR-17018 is miraculous stuff and an insanely valuable tool. It very much has a place in recovery and should be utilized by medical professionals/psychiatry.
Definitely agree on the last sentence. Though for the time I had the SR, I could really stick to it, my main issue has always been how to stay clean after the taper. I wouldn't want to be put on subs though... Anyway, a few more official options wouldn't hurt fs.

OT:
Nothing but vaped weed for me last night
 
How'd it go?
It went okay :) Though I did end up needing to take more, so it's looking like a rapid taper is the move. Took 10mg a while back and it's been enough to cover my symptoms. I'll just keep lowering each dose like I have been
Interesting thought. But besides all justified doubts about the real potency of what is sold as 7oh - imo 200 mg+ of 7oh is not little. A single week on 40-60 mg/day had me in terrible WD that I couldn't catch with Kratom leaf and that was absolutely on par with H (that also in very limited doses)... I can but be amazed at the fact that anyone can abuse this stuff sm and just walk away like it's not a big deal.
That's interesting, I reacted completely different. When I tried 7-OH, I noticed that I could use it for at least 3 days in a row and then drop it and experience zero withdrawal, whereas if I took kratom 3 days in a row, I would experience some WD upon stopping. So I began playing with fire and taking 7-OH nightly. Would be able to take it for 5-7 days (only at night) and then stop and the withdrawal symptoms that I did experience were very minor compared to kratom. Would be able to stop for 2 days and be okay so I'd pick it back up for my work week. 7-OH I find to be pretty low in terms of recreational value. It's decent for pain and it's definitely relaxing and sedating, but I have only experienced minor euphoria during the comeup but it is very fleeting.
The cycle continued until it eventually caught up to me

Definitely agree on the last sentence. Though for the time I had the SR, I could really stick to it, my main issue has always been how to stay clean after the taper. I wouldn't want to be put on subs though... Anyway, a few more official options wouldn't hurt fs.
Staying clean in the longer term is always the hardest battle for sure. For me, cravings for 7-OH during withdrawal are the most intense symptom.

I agree, it's always best to stay off of subs if possible. Case by case basis, of course
 
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