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Heroin Zopiclone bandit VS The NHS V1.0 "I am Smackacus!"

@Ddeeee e see it as a ongoing experiment live report on someone challenging the system. They prescribe Morphine to people in pain. They give Methadone and Heroine to addicts. Still the two are treated different. Double standards.

Once saw a YT on a chemist in UK that made Crack sigarets and smokable Methado ones. Couldn t find it back sadly but that kinda things are dissapaering wonder if that is a good thing.

Just like the ease to get on Methadone or Subutex. And the pain in the ass to ge Dia-Morphine is. Btw the people that are in the on site program in Nl. are getting Methadon and allowed to use street gear and other drugs inbetween. So it basically HR. But why is it only provided to the group causing nuisance and medical cost t society only.

Makes it a bit unfair medical practice. not really according to the Oath to Hippocrates they do finishing there study. Afaik that covers treating all equally and not deciding who s entitled and who not. Might be wrong on the oath thing, misinterpretating it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath
 
Ddeeee said:
Isn't this thread against the rules? seems to be another "how to source drugs from the nhs because im a broke smackhead" thread in disguise. Interesting
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No. The OP is not asking how to acquire a diamorphine prescription. Rather they are keeping us updated on their progress down a path many are intrigued by but few even attempt.
 
"Hi Mr XXX
Thanks for getting in touch - your best bet is to contact our Integrated Care Board Contact us :: Black Country ICB, or your local GP. They should be able to support this further.
Sorry we can't be of more help with this.
Many thanks
Taylor
Taylor Robinson (she / her)

Senior Communications Officer"

See what I am facing here @LoginNotSecure when they end their email with "(she / her)"

I don't give a toss what you have between your legs that Urine comes out of I want Medicine!!!!!
 
Shambles said:
No. The OP is not asking how to acquire a diamorphine prescription. Rather they are keeping us updated on their progress down a path many are intrigued by but few even attempt.
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I felt this was as simple to understand as getting out of bed tbh.
Then again a very small few of EADD do have an issue in being able to tell the basic truth & as they say they were also a Heroin addict at some point (which I highly question) would know what it's like to be sick, have to deal with Organised criminal gangs (OCGs) to get their medicine.
 
Ddeeee said:
Isn't this thread against the rules? seems to be another "how to source drugs from the nhs because im a broke smackhead" thread in disguise. Interesting
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99.9% of EADD sit with Dr. John Yerbury Dent & this guy sits with Harry J. Anslinger.

As Dr. John Yerbury Dent said "What the American people doing is bad" but I have no hope this member of BL will have any idea who these two people were & what they both tried hard to do.
 
Off topic a bit but can you smoke prescribed sustained release morphine pills? Or is the coating they put on it to make it sustained release liable to destroy your lungs?
 
Ismene2 said:
Off topic a bit but can you smoke prescribed sustained release morphine pills? Or is the coating they put on it to make it sustained release liable to destroy your lungs?
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I'd not smoke them tbh.
If I were you I would crush the pill up, take the coating off it so you only have powder, wrap it in Rizla then bomb it on an empty belly.

A good friend who was doing 3.5 years in Jail got his hands on some kinda Fent Pain Patches, they used to peel the back off & would scratch the Fent off, it would roll up into a small ball like Hash & drop it on the foil. It would only run 4-6 lines but each line you would know about it, by the time it was finished your head would be in your knees.

He still says his never had UK Heroin that was as potent as that stuff.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
My girlfriend at the time was not impressed.
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Was talking to another EADD member last night who said his missus gets VERY upset when he gets his hands on some stuff called Soma.
What is it with women getting mad at their partners taking drugs?

God I not had any pussy in years but the last woman I was with was "queer" about me doing RC's at the time & went off her nut when she learned I was still a heroin addict.
She soon changed her attitude when she had MXE, she got upto using a gram a day at her worst, she soon tried Heroin too which she liked way too much.

Her RC days ended when she did way too much of some weird DIPT analogue, ended up running around the streets naked, attacking fences & trees, shaking her fist in the air & roaring into the Sky, she had 4 Armed with Guns Norwegian Cops RUN off into their Van when she charged them, she was lucky they didn't fill her with some 9mm Glock rounds.

She came round tied by the arms & legs to a hospital bed with no memory of what she did :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

She never took drugs again, well apart from Pregabalin.
She married some random guy now, she was a good girl in some ways but in others she was a fucking liability.
 
emkee_reinvented said:
@Ddeeee e see it as a ongoing experiment live report on someone challenging the system. They prescribe Morphine to people in pain. They give Methadone and Heroine to addicts. Still the two are treated different. Double standards.
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That just shows how stupid one member of EADD actually is, everyone else even the mods on here can see what the agenda is.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Trust me I will stay with it, I am like a Dog with a bone when I know I am right, I will NEVER back down from anyone when I know The Law & actual NHS Website says something & I am 100% correct in what I am saying.
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Actually the whole situation needs someone with your energy ZB. I suspect you will help move the whole opiates/maintenance and recovery issue ahead.

Zopiclone bandit said:
I have been on Heroin since 2001, I cannot function without Opiates, I have used several other methods to keep myself off Smack & each failed. If I had a legal script I am able to act like 99.9% of the population.
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This legal maintenance WOULD turn who we call criminals today into productive members of society. I know this because I was in and out of jai/prison due to needing heroin in the 80's and 90's. Once I got out of prison I went to work for a huge family flower operation. They also dealt with dried flowers. I had every supplier of dried flowers/poppy pods at my service complete (1992 -2010) with a florist license in case of issues. 100's of dried poppy pods everywhere from South America or Netherlands for pennies. Even Canada. (was friends with Mr Izmir Oil and Spice CO in Canada who would front me pods) Now before my poppy pods habits when I was using heroin I needed money. It bothered me to steal but I needed to survive. Made me a criminal. Once I had poppy pods coming to my door, not once I did not need to steal and I went back to school and became a member of society. Aced my finals even with opiates in my system. But I had pods coming to my house and business. No stress, not the same of having to score on the streets. That SHOWED me the only thing the drug problem was would be the drugs availability. Give the addict what they need and they automatically take the stress off. So I went from someone that did time for armed robbery in 1991 to a normal tax paying citizen, yet still had morphine rolling in my system. All because of availability.

I understand this give them what they want may not work with alcohol. I can not picture a clinic giving a raging alcoholic a bottle of tequila and see it do good. But with opiates it become more of a metabolic issue like diabetes (just like William S Burroughs said)

I am back, apologies for ghosting, crazy family week. I have a lot of catching up to do.

@Zopiclone bandit , you may know who I am thinking of. In my readings the last 50 years of India and spiritual lessons I remember reading of a full blown yogi who was an opium addict before that. Gave it up and became a yogi. I can't remember where I read it. I for the life of me can not remember the yogi's name. Starts with a B I think?

Getting these substance in a legal way can only help.

Sadly I admit, from street heroin, to methadone about 4 times in 10 years, then following years of poppy pods, to years of plain leaf kratom. The trend is going downward but somewhat embarrassed that my clean time years are few. Then again all people are chemical machines, when they can go without their meds I will feel guilty for needing something. If not who cares.
 
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Just wanna say fellas the rules of there for a reason. Don't wanna be 'that guy' but frankly I don't get how this thread has been allowed and not been shut down yet. Have a nice day.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Yes, it is possible for heroin addicts in the UK to be prescribed morphine (or similar strong opioids) on the NHS, although it is not the standard treatment approach. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Here is the breakdown of how this works:
  • Standard Treatment (Opioid Substitution Treatment - OST): The primary method for treating heroin addiction in the UK is providing legal substitutes, usually [methadone] or [buprenorphine], which help manage withdrawal symptoms.
  • Alternative Prescriptions: While less common than methadone, some users might be prescribed injectable heroin (diamorphine) or other strong opioids under strict supervision by specialists, particularly if standard treatments have not worked.
  • The "British System": Historically, the UK allows doctors to prescribe opioids for addictions that have not responded to treatment, allowing for a gradual reduction in use or, in some cases, maintenance.
  • Supervision: Because morphine is a highly controlled drug, any prescription for an addict would be tightly regulated and monitored by a local drug treatment service or a specialist doctor, rather than a regular GP.
In short, addiction treatment exists to stop illegal heroin use, and while substituting it with another strong opioid like morphine is legal, it is always done under professional medical care.

I have decided after my Methadone Fuck about & the HORRIFIC allergic reaction to Espranor I am taking on my local NHS & drug Service & I am going all out to get a Legal Script of what I need. I learned over the wk/end Camden in London has at the least 100 legal addicts who have a daily amount of NHS Grade, Pure Diamorphine, it comes in little glass vials you break the top off, draw up in a 1ml & then shoot & this is NHS backed.

As @Señor Moreno said a few weeks ago You are a lifer" & tbh I know I am, without Heroin I cannot function & Methadone is no magic cure, if anything methadone is a type of poison & I REFUSE to take that stuff, it makes the effects in withdrawl so much worse on my body & "Mental Health"

I have dealt with crushing Depression all my life, I am not being "Woke" here but I have sat on the edge of the window in my 13th floor Council flat several times with a note waiting for whoever kicked in the door after they have picked up what is left of me, how I am still here is beyond me & P.A.W.S. EVERY TIME causes me such horror I cannot express it in words, you can read Marcus Aurelius - Meditations all day & night, try to be Stoic as much as you want but for me it doesn't work.

I have tried both OST ( see above) or here (Standard Treatment (Opioid Substitution Treatment - OST): The primary method for treating heroin addiction in the UK is providing legal substitutes, usually [methadone] or [buprenorphine], which help manage withdrawal symptoms.) & also I KNOW THIS IS FACT "Alternative Prescriptions: While less common than methadone, some users might be prescribed injectable heroin (diamorphine) or other strong opioids under strict supervision by specialists, particularly if standard treatments have not worked." so I am getting ready to fight my local Health Board to get what I need.

I will be updating this thread as & when, I hope maybe just one other person who is like me may see it & REFUSE to accept The State giving them Methadone which was made by actual Nazi Members FFS & DEMAND that their Rights are RESPECTED & given what they are ALLOWED TO TAKE BY LAW!!!!!!

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Fantastic and very useful information, Zopi
 
Ddeeee said:
Just wanna say fellas the rules of there for a reason. Don't wanna be 'that guy' but frankly I don't get how this thread has been allowed and not been shut down yet. Have a nice day.
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It’s allowed to stay because it simply breaks no rules.

I am aware you and Bandit have interpersonal beef of some kind, please keep it private and away from public threads.
 
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