Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 12

Yeah 21 should be gone 100%, If you think it's still there after that you're just lying to yourself thinking the worse. This is just medication, mechanism. It doesn't stay in your body forever. Your body eventually throws it out and returns to baseline.
I’am telling you, that i’am not at the baseline 21 months after 2 injections, and i’am not delusional, because i was for 28years at my baseline so I have a clear memory on how “normal” it’s for me.

Every sympthoms i have are reported inside the side effects list of the risperdal, so i’am not making up nothing.
 
I’am telling you, that i’am not at the baseline 21 months after 2 injections, and i’am not delusional, because i was for 28years at my baseline so I have a clear memory on how “normal” it’s for me.

Every sympthoms i have are reported inside the side effects list of the risperdal, so i’am not making up nothing.
No I believe you, I encountered over 100+ side effects, some are deadly some are fine. But the ones I felt and could explain was about 10 of them. Such as anhedonia, loss of sexual stuff the main ones.. I guarantee you if I took more than 150MG I'd get more side effects. I believe your sympthoms you're not STUCK with them forever, and it will certainly not kill you, even though the reported side effect extremly rare "sudden death" its nonesense Sudden death; withdrawal syndrome neonatal (NAS). it's misleeading because that happens in "babies". They keep changing the side effects for "sudden death" based on new usage. Don't forget what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and I know you'll come out stronger from this. Keep it up. Sorry though Merek killed himself :/ He was doing good recover.
 
No I believe you, I encountered over 100+ side effects, some are deadly some are fine. But the ones I felt and could explain was about 10 of them. Such as anhedonia, loss of sexual stuff the main ones.. I guarantee you if I took more than 150MG I'd get more side effects. I believe your sympthoms you're not STUCK with them forever, and it will certainly not kill you, even though the reported side effect extremly rare "sudden death" its nonesense Sudden death; withdrawal syndrome neonatal (NAS). it's misleeading because that happens in "babies". They keep changing the side effects for "sudden death" based on new usage. Don't forget what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and I know you'll come out stronger from this. Keep it up. Sorry though Merek killed himself :/ He was doing good recover.
How much time it will take for me to get my baseline back considering that i’am at 21 months but still disabled?
 
How much time it will take for me to get my baseline back considering that i’am at 21 months but still disabled?
Depends, are you taking any other medication? Cause those can slow it down.. and also during those 21 months have you done anyting to speed up the recovery?
 
Depends, are you taking any other medication? Cause those can slow it down.. and also during those 21 months have you done anyting to speed up the recovery?
Yeah i have to take daily benzo because feeling inside a dream Made my panic attacks came back, and because i lost the faculty to feel tiredness and sleep i had to take mirtazapine but it’s not helping honestly (i did 17.5 months medication free, no alchool, no weed) but then it was necessary to take something in order to survive (benzo and mirtazapine) but i’am tapering off slowly.

I did not suicide myself and that was more than enough to help my recover since every second it’s pure agony, i also went to the gym for 3 months, took a lot of B12 - Bcomplex - D3 - Omega3 - magnesium - zinc vitamines but nothing changed.

I went for very long walk and even restarted to play football trying to ignore all the sympthoms but I broke my ankle and it never healed 14 months after because 80% of healing happen when we deep sleep and these injections left me with superficial sleep with continuous awakening and because of that I miss the 80% healing that happen when we sleep.

I think the whole point is sleep at some point because this drug prevent the feeling of tiredness to be felt —> this prevent to have a deep restorative sleep —> this prevent the healing of the brain and body.
 
Yeah i have to take daily benzo because feeling inside a dream Made my panic attacks came back, and because i lost the faculty to feel tiredness and sleep i had to take mirtazapine but it’s not helping honestly (i did 17.5 months medication free, no alchool, no weed) but then it was necessary to take something in order to survive (benzo and mirtazapine) but i’am tapering off slowly.

I did not suicide myself and that was more than enough to help my recover since every second it’s pure agony, i also went to the gym for 3 months, took a lot of B12 - Bcomplex - D3 - Omega3 - magnesium - zinc vitamines but nothing changed.

I went for very long walk and even restarted to play football trying to ignore all the sympthoms but I broke my ankle and it never healed 14 months after because 80% of healing happen when we deep sleep and these injections left me with superficial sleep with continuous awakening and because of that I miss the 80% healing that happen when we sleep.

I think the whole point is sleep at some point because this drug prevent the feeling of tiredness to be felt —> this prevent to have a deep restorative sleep —> this prevent the healing of the brain and body.
My reward for reaching 13 months was tinnitus, i’am wondering what reward I will get for reaching 24 months; maybe TD or loss of eyesight.
 
Okay, I can't say much about the supplements and medications you're taking, a doctor wont give you straight answer so I'm going to be brutally blunt and honest with you. I didnt take anything not a single supplement or medication after I stopped Paliperidone. I'm not saying abruptly stop all the medication and supplements cause I dont know what reaction it could cause, either slow it down or speed it, but in your case it seems to be slowing it done, so gradual decrease on these supplements could be the next move, and get all your nutrients from organic real food. Not completely stop the supplements but limit it, and as for the medication you need to research about their effect on while having Invega (Paliperidone) in your system, this doesn't mean all your recovery and efforts have gone to waste. You might have just slowed down your recovery, all is not lost. You're far ahead of most people. Keep walking daily going to the park, you need to push yourself not to stay in bed all day. I was bed ridden for months, all I did was sleep eat and watch tv. Nothing productive. And also (being on the computer) helps drive ahedonia.. even playing simple games. Take your mind off it.. and eventually after months your brain adjusts back to your baseline, you need to actively push your mind to the baseline before Invega, not just "stop" inevga and hope it goes well within time period. Everyone here has a different timeline, but eventually even if it takes 3-5 years they recover. No one on this thread stayed disabled to paliperdone after 3+ years. Also TD (tardive dyskinesia) only happens when you've been ON anti-psychotics for a long period. Looks like you've only had 2 injection. Which is highly unlikely, you might be mistaking TD for something else. You will NOT get TD or loss of eyesight for "recovering" stopping. TD and loss of eyesight is measured when you are on Anti-psychotics for a long time e.g 1-2 years+ none stop, injection everyday. Don't worry you're good, keep pushing. Taking random supplements + medications you dont need, blurs the effective time you can measure yourm paliperidone recover (just keep in mind).

Edit: I also got tinnitus the other day. = Play music in the background, dont stay in a bluntly noise free room always, yeah its fine to have quiet no sound but if its too quiet you'll get tinnitus, thats the fix for tinnitus. tinnitus is not perm, and everyone gets it at some point.
My reward for reaching 13 months was tinnitus, i’am wondering what reward I will get for reaching 24 months; maybe TD or loss of eyesight.
Yeah i have to take daily benzo because feeling inside a dream Made my panic attacks came back, and because i lost the faculty to feel tiredness and sleep i had to take mirtazapine but it’s not helping honestly (i did 17.5 months medication free, no alchool, no weed) but then it was necessary to take something in order to survive (benzo and mirtazapine) but i’am tapering off slowly.

I did not suicide myself and that was more than enough to help my recover since every second it’s pure agony, i also went to the gym for 3 months, took a lot of B12 - Bcomplex - D3 - Omega3 - magnesium - zinc vitamines but nothing changed.

I went for very long walk and even restarted to play football trying to ignore all the sympthoms but I broke my ankle and it never healed 14 months after because 80% of healing happen when we deep sleep and these injections left me with superficial sleep with continuous awakening and because of that I miss the 80% healing that happen when we sleep.

I think the whole point is sleep at some point because this drug prevent the feeling of tiredness to be felt —> this prevent to have a deep restorative sleep —> this prevent the healing of the brain and body.
 
I literally tried everything and after one day I get tolerance and I can’t sleep, if it goes that way I’m gonna get manic, like no sleep at all is killing me , I might go to the hospital maybe they can help? I don’t know It’s just my last resort to see if it helps, god I hate my life , how am I recovering when I could sleep 10 hours 3 months ago and it keep getting worse everyday after 7 months instead of getting better? I swear nobody can handle this fucking situation 24-7 watching walls and bedridden and severe insomnia, it’s literally unbearable this is not life this is torture I swear to god I can’t handle it anymore

Dude your recovering hang in there. Maybe ask your doctor for something different for sleep like temazepam?
 


I’am starting to get used to the torture to a point where my brain it’s starting to accept it as his new baseline, letting go what our real baseline was, in order to adapt and survive instead of healing back to his former baseline.

It’s a strange feeling btw..
 
I’ve come across something called NIDS(Neuroleptic-induced deficit syndrome) while reading about similar experiences. I’m not sure if it applies in your case, but maybe it could be worth looking into
I heard doctors prescribing dopamine agonists and stimulants to help with this.did you find anything that could help.
 
I’ve come across something called NIDS (Neuroleptic-induced deficit syndrome) while reading about similar experiences. I’m not sure if it applies in your case, but maybe it could be worth looking into
I definetely have NIDS because it’s what happen after a the exposure to the toxin, the brain’s receptors change in expression (Numbers and sensitivity), every receptors targeted by this toxin change his expression, and because of that the NIDS occour until every receptors go to his former setup.

But since changing the receptors expression in someone’s brain is something EXTREMELY unnatural, the brain it’s not programmed to return to his former self because nothing in the nature will change the expression of receptors inside the brain and the brain cannot re write itself because this is far Beyond the biology.
 
I heard doctors prescribing dopamine agonists and stimulants to help with this.did you find anything that could help.
We are way too focused on dopamine when we don’t know where is the problem, maybe it’s 5HT2A serotonin? Maybe it’s alfa 1 or 2? Maybe it’s D3 or D2 dopamine? It’s GABA? Noradrenaline? Where is the problem? Dopamine it’s the 15% of the whole picture, we should Made a PET to see where is the problem so we will know what we have to do instead of trying to play the russian roulette with our receptors.
 
I heard doctors prescribing dopamine agonists and stimulants to help with this.did you find anything that could help.
I might be prescribed dopamine agonists after my prolactin test results are ready — but only if my levels are very high and my doctor thinks it's absolutely necessary. High prolactin levels create dopamine residues. When prolactin levels become too high, it blocks the body's own dopamine production through a feedback loop.
Invega Sustenna is one of the medications that can raise prolactin levels the most, which might explain some of my symptoms. But everyone's situation is different, so I'm not saying this would apply to anyone else
 
I definetely have NIDS because it’s what happen after a the exposure to the toxin, the brain’s receptors change in expression (Numbers and sensitivity), every receptors targeted by this toxin change his expression, and because of that the NIDS occour until every receptors go to his former setup.

But since changing the receptors expression in someone’s brain is something EXTREMELY unnatural, the brain it’s not programmed to return to his former self because nothing in the nature will change the expression of receptors inside the brain and the brain cannot re write itself because this is far Beyond the biology.
I understand what you’re saying, but from what I’ve read, the brain is actually capable of adapting and recovering over time. It has this ability to change and rebalance itself, even after strong influences. For example, people can recover functions even after a stroke, which shows how flexible the brain can be
 
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