Opioids Methadone high & people using Methadone recreationally.

[KurtAurelius]

Those old oxy 30s were formulated to snort too. No pharmaceutical pill has ever been easier to crush and literally snorted as easy as the oxy 30s Vs.

At 15-16 years old I had the og OC40 and OC80s

I have been lucky to never be physically dependent on opioids, I took a 4 year break, but to this day I still play around, as it’s hard to not want something like that once in a while..

 

[RuffSamurai]

At 15-16 years old I had the og OC40 and OC80s

I have been lucky to never be physically dependent on opioids, I took a 4 year break, but to this day I still play around, as it’s hard to not want something like that once in a while..

Yeah I used to be able to take oxy for weeks even over a month without dependence forming. I know what you mean there will never be a day the rest of my life where I won’t feel like it would be better if I was on opioids and preferably benzos. It’s amazing you have never gotten dependent but be careful my girl was the same way always dabbling, taking breaks but that’s almost more dangerous because you never form a tolerance (every opioid addicts greatest enemy but secretly best friend) which having a massive tolerance is probably why a lot of us are still here. Be careful either way shit is scary out there and real opioids are so damn expensive if you can even find them.

Ironically I never even got to try a real OG formula OxyContin I got into this shit back in 2016 or 2017 right when that shit really started being phased out with the oxycodone. I still see them around on vendor lists and markets (apparently polish brand?) but they are so insanely expensive, I’m talking thousands of dollars for ~ 30.

Edit: my girl ended up passing from a Fent OD don’t remember if I posted that in this thread or not so wanted to add why I brought up her in the first place.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Almost ANY opioid is going to be enjoyable to some one without a tolerance or if their body chemistry allows it.

I use to use both methadone & buprenorphine recreationally. Both can be recreational under the right setting & circumstances.
But they're the kinds of opioids that lose their positive effects pretty quickly with daily dosing.

I know people who prefer buprenorphine to methadone, or methadone to buprenorphine. Some people don't like them at all. I use to find buprenorphine pretty enjoyable when I had zero tolerance. But after using it daily for almost 10 years, I'd still say other opioids (full agonists) are better.

With no tolerance, about 5-10mg of methadone was enough to feel it. I have no experience with long term methadone use though, but I'd imagine it's very similar to buprenorphine, in that it can feel nice to people with no tolerance or those who cannot access better opioids. But for people with tolerances, these drugs will do nothing but help withdrawal.


With no tolerance, I'd say methadone felt vaguely similar to Darvocet (propoxyphene), but longer acting & less intense. Very much a body-high with a little bit of dreamy nodding.

Buprenorphine with no tolerance (although no one asked) feels like if diet-tramadol & methadone had a baby. Not quite as stimulating as tramadol, but has some of that "get up & get shit done" feeling that opioids like tramadol, oxycodone & heroin have, just much less intense & less enjoyable. The stimulating part usually wears off after about 2hrs & then it mostly just turns into a damn sleeping pill.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Longer, less euphoric, somewhat mentally stimulating but way less than oxycodonoe. Body high is strong, easy to nod or mix with other stuff to get realllly powerful body highs. GABAergic stuff I mean
H is quicker, more intense & more euphoric with a stronger but shorter nod.

I didn't expect that tbh.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Almost ANY opioid is going to be enjoyable to some one without a tolerance or if their body chemistry allows it.

True.
Some people can get high from Codeine, when I had an abscess on my arse cut out I was given codeine & Oral Morphine, I would take 240mg of Codeine & wash it down with 40-60mg of Morphine right away upon waking up which didn't give me a high, I would go score Heroin within an hour of waking up & smoke 0.4-0.6grams of Afghan Heroin in the space of 2 hours of waking up.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

but has some of that "get up & get shit done" feeling that opioids like tramadol, oxycodone & heroin have,

LOLOL

I used to get that feeling so much off Heroin, I was the only one in our small group that began taking Smack at the same time.
All my mates have never had that feeling & they used to get pissed off with me when I would have that "get up & get shit done" feeling come over me, I am glad someone else knows what I am on about for once.

The stereotype view of a Heroin addict is someone on the nod, their head down in their knees, they look like they are sleeping, nobody ever thinks of a Heroin addict who has smoked a good half gram of Afghan Smack doing hard manual work.

When I was working for The NHS (National Health Service) as I am based in The UK / England I worked at the main hospital for this area, I had to go collect the cages from the various parts of the hospital & it's a huge place, it handles nearly 100,000 A&E (Accident & Emergency) attendances, 105,000 inpatients, and 500,000 outpatients annually, it has 687 beds so you get an idea how big it is, to walk from the far right part to the far left takes at the very least 20 mins. I was told by the boss I was the best worker they has ever had from the agency & he was very impressed at the speed I walked, on an average day I would walk at the least 10 miles, on the worst day I did 17 miles, i was smoking Heroin all day, every single day.
I could do all that walking & work as I was so high on Heroin I didn't feel any stress on my legs or body due to having my blood stream full of Afghan heroin.

It was 100% due to that "get up & get shit done" feeling you posted about that I could do that.

This is what most people who never done heroin think we all lok like after a smoke or a nice crank / dig (I.V. use)

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I am on 50mg daily & been using it for a few months now, I only began to use it as I got fed up of the days I had no cash & was sick due to my constant use of Heroin (Yes in the UK we still have lots of Afghan smoking Heroin, Fent & Medetomidine haven't taken off like it has in The USA)

I have seen several posts on here from people saying about using Methadone like I use Heroin, they seem to get a high off it & seem to be happy from it's effects, when I use it I get no "high" off it, all it does is stop me from being sick & I can get a nights sleep, no stomach issues, terrible pain in my joints & legs that feel like they are made from Oak etc, all the usual Heroin withdrawl effects.

What mg range are people using to get a high off it?
How long have you been off Heroin or other potent Opiates before you can get a high off Methadone?

You have a tolerance, you are not going to catch any sort of noteworthy high and since you've already shown the clinic you're fairly stable at 50mg they're not going to jump you up to a much higher dosage that you'd need.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Generally less is more with methadone. The high isn't like heroin, oxycodone or other shorter acting opioids. It's more of a deep nod. Naive people typically start with 5-10mg.

When I was on methadone to keep w/d at bay I was taking 10-15mg daily orally. From time to time if the stars aligned I could nod on it despite heavy tolerance to most opioids. It wasn't until I quit it cold turkey that I realized how much it had been effecting me day-to-day.

If you go much beyond 10-15mg the positive effects aren't there anymore and it mostly functions as blocker. I've never understood why some people are on 100+mg a day to keep withdrawal at bay. I had a massive oxycodone habit and 10mg always held me just fine. I am thankful people like that exist though because it meant I could buy one of their take homes and have a week supply for myself.

They don't usually NEED to go that high they choose too bc they're still chasing a high. The people at 400mg a day of methadone are lifers still chasing a high.

 

[ovo1024]

They don't usually NEED to go that high they choose too bc they're still chasing a high. The people at 400mg a day of methadone are lifers still chasing a high.

I kinda have to agree with you their, although I do have a question. Is it true what that person said about less is more with methadone? Because I'm currently taking 140mg daily at the clinic. And just wondering if I'd feel the effects more at a lower dose, like say 90mg a day maybe?

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I used to get that feeling so much off Heroin, I was the only one in our small group that began taking Smack at the same time.
All my mates have never had that feeling & they used to get pissed off with me when I would have that "get up & get shit done" feeling come over me, I am glad someone else knows what I am on about for once.

Nice!!!
Do you struggle with depression at all? I do, very badly. Depression that makes my entire body hurt & robs me of my energy & motivation.
But opioids have always helped that. I truly believe some people with depression have an issue with their endogenous opioid system. And that's why opioids make them productive & motivated.

My favorite activities on tramadol & heroin back in the day was taking really long walks with my headphones on or even lift weights & exercise.
Of course I did get the nods too, but even when I had the nods, I could still power through them & and get shit done.

I've been noticing through experimentation over the years that for whatever reason, buprenorphine has to be one of THE most sedating opioids I've ever tried. Tramadol, hydrocodone, heroin, oxy, etc... all seem to give me energy, keep me awake, they can be sedating as well but it's never as strong a sedation as buprenorphine & it certainly doesn't last as long as buprenorphine. If I take some buprenorphine, within 2hrs I am sedated as fuck like I just took some psychiatric meds instead of an opioid. It's more like a sleeping pill to me than an opioid. Really makes me wanna quit Suboxone, but then I'd have no other choices to maintain with.

Here in the US, they make you go to a Methadone clinic daily to take your medicine. And that's just not something that's viable for me to do. Hell, I don't drive anywhere in the morning until AFTER I've taken my meds. So having to get up & drive somewhere just to go take my meds is bullshit. Which leaves me trapped with Suboxone being my only option.

I have definitely been a many arguments with people who think doing opioids means you'll end up as a homeless person with mental health problems, nodding out on fent like the guy in the picture you posted. lol They never stop and think about all the people who do drugs & still go to work every day or aren't homeless. lol It's just propaganda to further enable drug war policies.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Here in the US, they make you go to a Methadone clinic daily to take your medicine. And that's just not something that's viable for me to do. Hell, I don't drive anywhere in the morning until AFTER I've taken my meds. So having to get up & drive somewhere just to go take my meds is bullshit. Which leaves me trapped with Suboxone being my only option.

Here the nearest clinic is a 45+ minute drive because they don't have one in our small town. I don't know who offers this service but there is a free bus that comes everyday to pick people up to take them to the clinic. My friend down the street has been going to that clinic for years on that free bus. We all call it the Junkie Jalopy because the bus is really old. I think it is a re-purposed school bus from the early 90s.

It comes around to everyone's house in the county between 5-6am and collects them. Then it drives down to the clinic in the city. It shows up about the time the city locals are leaving that stood in line on foot. Everyone exits the bus to line up for the tin man. They get their dose and sometimes see a nurse/doctor and randomly get pulled to piss in cups. Then the bus leaves around 7:30am and brings them back or drops them off at their places of work.

Your local clinic probably offers a similar service. My friend says it's free and he got on the list for the bus when he was originally inducted into the program.

They don't usually NEED to go that high they choose too bc they're still chasing a high. The people at 400mg a day of methadone are lifers still chasing a high.

I suspect a lot of people are on high doses to sell take homes.

My friend above is on something ridiculous like 200mg a day. But he only takes it when he's forced to dose at the clinic. He's been with the program long enough now that he only goes once a week. He's given 6 take home doses a week that he stores in a locked container the clinic provided. At home he only takes something like 50mg 4 days a week these days. He skips dosing the day after he goes to the clinic because 200mg will hold him for 2 1/2 days. I think he doses a full 200mg the day before his clinic visit to in case he gets pulled to pee. He said the only time he feels it is when he's forced to take the full dose.

He's been slowly tapering off of it himself for years. All the excess he either sells to other people or keeps stashed away at home in case he ever gets cut off or misses the bus. Since if he misses the bus and can't get a ride down from someone else he has to go a full week before they'll give him more take homes.

He's pretty active about not missing that bus. He usually stays up all night so he's standing at the end of the road by 5am in case it comes early. Which happens from time to time.

I used to buy half of one of his take homes every week and it was a week supply for me. I'd only take about 10mg a day (eye balled) and it was plenty to hold my w/d at bay and I have a pretty heavy hydrocodone/oxycodone habit for years. Quitting 10mg of methadone daily was hell. I would never want to cold turkey it again.

10mg will get even a daily user of oxycodone incredibly high at first. It isn't as euphoric but I remember taking a 10mg pill once because I couldn't find anything else. About 20 hours later I was working outside near my Grandparent's house and became overwhelmed with nausea and projectile vomited all over the yard. I went inside afterwards and checked myself in the mirror. My pupils were pinned out worse than they ever got taking my usual opioids.

Those pills were like the last resort for everyone around here back then. We'd only buy them if there was nothing else available. I snorted some of them with a group of other people one night and I'll never forget how badly it burned. It was on-par with snorting stuff like the 2C chemicals. The only thing I've ever snorted that burned worse than methadone and the 2Cs was DPT.

 

[Allylbenzene]

He's been slowly tapering off of it himself for years.

If you get a chance, show him this post. It's a practical guide to stopping acute withdrawals and maximising long-term recovery (ie preventing relapse in a way that most rehab clinics don't). It doesn't rely on experimental or expensive items, they're all OTC & inexpensive.

It's also useful for harm reduction, including for methadone. This paper below outlines how it harms developing cells but it apparently harms mature cells too (see 2nd quote).

Methadone directly impairs central nervous system cells in vitro
We showed that methadone, the most widely used drug in opioid replacement therapy for pregnant women with opioid addiction, directly impairs brain cells in vitro, highlighting the need for developing alternative therapies to address opioid addiction in this population.

Additionally, we observed a significant reduction in synaptic density in mature neurons...

https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-024-67860-7

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

If you get a chance, show him this post. It's a practical guide to stopping acute withdrawals and maximising long-term recovery, ie preventing relapse in a way that most rehab clinics don't. It doesn't rely on any experimental or expensive items, they're all OTC & inexpensive.

It's useful for harm reduction also for things like methadone (ironically).

Methadone directly impairs central nervous system cells in vitro - Scientific Reports

Methadone is a synthetic long-acting opioid that is increasingly used in the replacement therapy of opioid-addicted patients, including pregnant women. However, methadone therapy in this population poses challenges, as it induces cognitive and behavioral impairments in infants exposed to this...

doi.org

I would but he's not tapering to jump off. He plans to stay on for life. He just wants to be on a lower dose so he can get high at least two days a week. He wanted to quit when he first got in the program because he couldn't smoke pot anymore. But now he's been off pot so long that he doesn't care for it anymore.

He's got a good stack of methadone and gets various benzos from his GP. All for free. He enjoys his current life of playing video games all day and not having to work. He's got food stamps and is somehow getting free meals on wheels deliveries daily despite the fact his grandmother died years ago. He doesn't have a computer either. He's got gaming consoles and buys the new ones when they come out on launch day every few years by selling take homes and benzos. Along with setting up deals for other opioids for people by acting as a middle man.

Honestly, he's not that great of a person and I don't associate with him much anymore since I quit buying his take homes. When his grandmother and mother were still alive I associated with him more often because his parents were friends with my parents a long time ago. I also dated his little sister for a while. But now his mother is dead, his sister and brother moved out of town and I have absolutely no reason to see him. From time to time he calls and tries to sell me stuff or wants to know if I know where certain drugs are for sale. But he gave up on doing that after I didn't buy any of his junk and he figured out I'm really not in the game anymore. So the only time I see him anymore is when we happen to be at the grocery store at the same time.

 

[Dextro .45]

In Canada we have Palladin Pharma METADOL 1/5/10/25mg scored tablets of Methadone

I take 100-125mg daily (160 tablets monthly)

I also had Purdue Pharma OG OxyContin green CDN 80’s (OC 80 in states) also Oxy-IR 5/10/20mg IR and Percs TEC’s …..most euphoric non sedating stimulating opioid ever……even more pleasurable than IV H or Dilaudid easily …..only H maybe, but Pharma Diamorphine 5/10/30/100/500mg vials of injection

Oxycodone & Ritalin (Methylphenidate) best oral Speedball and I’ve only experienced real euphoria from these two compounds…..and I had real H 20+ years ago testing positive for 6-MAM & Morphine, potent vinegar odour due to Acetic Anhydride precursor required to convert pure Morphine base into Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) super fine beach sand light beige colour and strong vinegar odour…….best H you’d EVER find in Canada 20+ years ago

 

[SoCalShordie]

I am on 50mg daily & been using it for a few months now, I only began to use it as I got fed up of the days I had no cash & was sick due to my constant use of Heroin (Yes in the UK we still have lots of Afghan smoking Heroin, Fent & Medetomidine haven't taken off like it has in The USA)

I have seen several posts on here from people saying about using Methadone like I use Heroin, they seem to get a high off it & seem to be happy from it's effects, when I use it I get no "high" off it, all it does is stop me from being sick & I can get a nights sleep, no stomach issues, terrible pain in my joints & legs that feel like they are made from Oak etc, all the usual Heroin withdrawl effects.

What mg range are people using to get a high off it?
How long have you been off Heroin or other potent Opiates before you can get a high off Methadone?

You can definitely catch a buzz from it. I was on like 120mg for months when I was in treatment. I would even nod out in the mornings after getting my dose, just like I would with H.

 

[flyineyes]

"Oxycodone is the most euphoric pleasurable potent opioid analgesic on earth. Period"
ahahahahaha

On 110 Methadone for 10+ yers but shortly after my 48th BD, following some mild discomfort, suddenly my shoulder felt like it had fallen off, the pain was debilitating, affecting my entire upper body. Went to the GP and he gave me Oxycodone, I took the whole sheet/s and it did fuck all! Sooo disappointed, should have blasted it I guess?

 

[Dextro .45]

On 110 Methadone for 10+ yers but shortly after my 48th BD, following some mild discomfort, suddenly my shoulder felt like it had fallen off, the pain was debilitating, affecting my entire upper body. Went to the GP and he gave me Oxycodone, I took the whole sheet/s and it did fuck all! Sooo disappointed, should have blasted it I guess?

Ya……because you were on Methadone 110mg for ten years……due to its long half life and accumulation over ten years……it has VERY efffective long binding properties……all the Mu Opioid receptors in your CNS were occupied by Methadone ……so the Oxycodone had nowhere to bind to

Even Methadone 40mg can block the euphoric effects or even analgesic properties of Oxycodone

I slammed 4 80’s while on Methadone and didn’t feel shit

Now……wean down to 40mg methadone and then lower, then nothing for 2 months +

Those Oxycodone tablets would have ROCKED you because they would have a rich source of Mu Opioid receptors to bind to

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Naive people typically start with 5-10mg.

Is it that powerful. Wow.

Came across it one day, someone close to me on it. showed it. He had 10 mg tabs said only a few, 2/ 3 could kill me. Never offered me any, very unusual but harm reductive behavior looking back. He was on maintenance so ~180 mg.

 

[Kushman3000]

I am on 50mg daily & been using it for a few months now, I only began to use it as I got fed up of the days I had no cash & was sick due to my constant use of Heroin (Yes in the UK we still have lots of Afghan smoking Heroin, Fent & Medetomidine haven't taken off like it has in The USA)

I have seen several posts on here from people saying about using Methadone like I use Heroin, they seem to get a high off it & seem to be happy from it's effects, when I use it I get no "high" off it, all it does is stop me from being sick & I can get a nights sleep, no stomach issues, terrible pain in my joints & legs that feel like they are made from Oak etc, all the usual Heroin withdrawl effects.

What mg range are people using to get a high off it?
How long have you been off Heroin or other potent Opiates before you can get a high off Methadone?

Try 240 mg then tell me you dont get high.

When I use to IV administer H (20+ years ago when it was actually H, confirmed by urine analysis testing positive for 6-MAM & Morphine) …..once I banged a fat shot in the car, got out and immediately vomited while my three co workers watched me in confusion & disbelief lol)

They were like, bro….you ok.? ….me, all chippy & happy was like, hell ya, I’m feeling GREAT lol, just ate something didn’t agree with me, cracked a can of Sprite and sparked a smoke …….an opioid puke is probably the least uncomfortable and least gross one , over in seconds and 100% fine after (in my case at least)

Id ditch it all to be 100% opioid naive and have PF Oxy-IR 5mg tablets ……most euphoric & pleasurable opioid analgesic I’ve EVER taken. EVER. Same euphoric pleasurable feeling as Ritalin (Methylphenidate) gave me

Those two compounds would be my DOC and for an oral Speedball with a little Ethanol & cigarettes

LSD- 100ug tabs is therapeutic soul cleansing and connects you to Mother Nature & God…..on a beautiful summer day at a cottage, blue clear sky, a slamming hot Sun +30 , waterfront, swimming, good music, sizzling bbq, drinks, all the creature comforts, shower, washrooms, kitchen, fridge, beds, etc ……but surrounded by beautiful Mother Nature……stars at night with a roaring crackling bonfire, few close friends, etc…..nothing like it …, LSD-25 most amazing molecule ever synthesized…possessing dopaminergic properties that Psilocybin doesn’t have…9

Currently I take my daily oral hybrid Brompton Cocktail all scripted

Methadone
Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
Diazepam (Valium)
Pregabalin (Lyrica)
Ethanol - Gin + premium Belmont cigarettes

A tolerant, functioning working individual that gets a stockpile every 30 days, including 10ml glass vial of Testosterone 200mg IM bi-weekly …..AMAZING antidepressant & mood-boosting agent, enhanced energy & increased vigilance, outgoing, sociable, happy & friendly and the drive and mind set of a virile 19 year old Marine

Add an oral Brompton Cocktail to that…..and your cock’d N Locked, ready to Rock.

20 years + of responsible therapeutic usage and these daily compounds aren’t too dangerous when your body has been conditioned & tolerant to all substances.

My style brompton cocktail is 3mg oxymorphone with 8mg morphine. 1 shot of saki with orange juice drank slow over the day with 30mg dramamine and a half a doxylamine. Later in the evening 1 hit of fine homegrown cannabis and tbspoon of black seed oil and turmeric to keep tolerance low and the black seed oil makes it significantly stronger. Lsd is one of the greatest things on this earth when used in the right setting. 4 grams of mushroom on a full moon is another one of my favorites.

 

[Tryptamite]

I double those yesterday as all the supermarkets were closed due to Easter on money not easily available it is easy to accidentally drop your methadone and get a second dose obviously you actually drink here first dose

Macedon here is 10 mg per mil and contains little more than methadone and water many people inject it the high is stronger but I feel one would need to concentrate it more to get an actual hit from it