Opioids Methadone high & people using Methadone recreationally.

[Zopiclone bandit]

I am on 50mg daily & been using it for a few months now, I only began to use it as I got fed up of the days I had no cash & was sick due to my constant use of Heroin (Yes in the UK we still have lots of Afghan smoking Heroin, Fent & Medetomidine haven't taken off like it has in The USA)

I have seen several posts on here from people saying about using Methadone like I use Heroin, they seem to get a high off it & seem to be happy from it's effects, when I use it I get no "high" off it, all it does is stop me from being sick & I can get a nights sleep, no stomach issues, terrible pain in my joints & legs that feel like they are made from Oak etc, all the usual Heroin withdrawl effects.

What mg range are people using to get a high off it?
How long have you been off Heroin or other potent Opiates before you can get a high off Methadone?

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Generally less is more with methadone. The high isn't like heroin, oxycodone or other shorter acting opioids. It's more of a deep nod. Naive people typically start with 5-10mg.

When I was on methadone to keep w/d at bay I was taking 10-15mg daily orally. From time to time if the stars aligned I could nod on it despite heavy tolerance to most opioids. It wasn't until I quit it cold turkey that I realized how much it had been effecting me day-to-day.

If you go much beyond 10-15mg the positive effects aren't there anymore and it mostly functions as blocker. I've never understood why some people are on 100+mg a day to keep withdrawal at bay. I had a massive oxycodone habit and 10mg always held me just fine. I am thankful people like that exist though because it meant I could buy one of their take homes and have a week supply for myself.

 

[Joey]

When I was on methadone I was prescribed 50mg a day. When I got carries I'd sometimes double up and take 100mg and I'd get high.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I'd sometimes double up and take 100mg and I'd get high.

What did it feel like compared to the Heroin high?

 

[ovo1024]

I'm on 130mg a day and if I miss a dose so that means I'd be close to 48 hours without any methadone id definitely start feeling withdrawal symptoms but I'd also get a buzz when I did take that dose

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

The only really thing I’ve heard about this. (I only took a 10mg methadone pill one time) is that people that go to the clinic sometimes used benzos and that turns the methadone into a powerful euphoric high. Supposedly it’s one of the most dangerous opi/benzo mix though. So I wouldn’t try it

 

[Gilbert Goodsmack]

For a short time I had access to 10mg methadone pills, think I had a habit of 80mg of hydrocodone a day at that time (started on the done once the hydro ran out). Methadone definitely got me feeling good, I think I was taking 2 a day (wake and bake, and after work happy hour), downside was the worst constipation ever.

 

[Dextro .45]

Oxycodone is the most euphoric pleasurable potent opioid analgesic on earth. Period

Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) ONLY when administered I.V. injection is Tier 1 Narcotic
Diamorphine (Diacetylmorphine) Heroin is the Holy Grail of IV injecting Speedballs if 100% pharmaceuticals grade

Methadone 100-125mg daily for 20+ years I take. Methadone is very pleasurable & potent painkiller with a loooomg half life …..I actually enjoy Methadone, however it in my daily oral Brompton Cocktail


Methadone 100-125mg
Ritalin (Methylphenidate) 50-70mg IR
Diazepam (Valium) 30-40mg
Alprazolam (Xanax) 1mg
Pregabalin (Lyrica) 300mg
Ethanol - Gin 2.oz drink with premium cigarettes…..while I blast a line of Cocaine before heading out to patio for cigarette and Gin cocktail

VERY tolerant individual whom takes these compounds daily for 20+ years…..all scripted

 

[helium-4]

"Oxycodone is the most euphoric pleasurable potent opioid analgesic on earth. Period"
ahahahahaha

 

[Keif' Richards]

@Dextro .45 are you trying to piss me off bro?! First, nobody can make objective statements regarding an experience that is almost entirely subjective. Secondly, Oxymorphone (Opana; Numorphan) is better than Oxycodone. That isn´t just my opinion. 9 out of 10 Americans prefer the fucked-upedness of Oxymorphone as per a statistic I just made up. I think I´m experiencing an emotion similar to jealousy when I read about your daily drug cocktail. Good for you man!

Like everything, there is a huge difference between a person who is relatively naive to powerful Opioids and those who are dependent/addicted already. For said naive individual, Methadone would likely be evert bit as euphoric, pleasurable and powerful as a ¨more favorable¨ Opioid like Oxycodone. Also, as with all Opioids in a naive individual, nausea can be quite bad. In my experience, Methadone is more prone to nausea than Oxycodone, but pretty similar to Morphine.

A totally naive individual, who doesn´t experience heavy nausea, is likely to feel nice and intoxicated for ~10 hours with a few more hours of rapidly diminishing effects. This kid I knew, who had experience with small dosages of Oxycodone, decided he wanted to try Methadone. I gave him some and told him how much he could take. I explained the delayed onset of action. He fell for the trap and redosed the entirety of the 50mg Methadone I had given him when he did not feel effects fast enough. I had told him to take it in 25% increments at most but he thought he knew what we was doing.

50mg Methadone had this kid violently nauseous for 36 and maybe even 48 full hours. He was bedridden with the puke bucket next to his bed. I guess the point is, it is a powerful Opioid agonist with all of the hallmarks one would expect. The primary difference is that Methadone lasts approximately twice as long as most regularly prescribed Opioid agonists. Fun fact, Methadone was chosen as the first true ¨maintenance drug¨ for its duration of action more than anything. Hence we have a functional drug, yet it is often described as ¨not enough¨ by long-term users. It just doesn´t hit all f those spots that we want hit, but it comes really close.

A person with a history of Opioid usage is likely to view Methadone as one of the least desirable drugs available on the street. One can buy a hit of Fentanyl 10x as strong as that 50mg Methadone for 10 bucks. The slow onset of action makes Methadone inherently less likeable when compared to Opioids with a short(er) onset .

If I were to sit in a sensory deprivation tank after taking my dose of Methadone in the morning, I´m sure I could start to identify the drug´s action with some accuracy. When I´m living life, going to work, doing fun shit, I don´t even notice. This is, in my opinion, the ideal effect from Methadone as a maintenance medication. It works in the background. Just because you don´t notice it at all times, it is working. It keeps you in homeostasis, which in its own way feels good when you have broken free from compulsive usage.

 

[Dextro .45]

When I use to IV administer H (20+ years ago when it was actually H, confirmed by urine analysis testing positive for 6-MAM & Morphine) …..once I banged a fat shot in the car, got out and immediately vomited while my three co workers watched me in confusion & disbelief lol)

They were like, bro….you ok.? ….me, all chippy & happy was like, hell ya, I’m feeling GREAT lol, just ate something didn’t agree with me, cracked a can of Sprite and sparked a smoke …….an opioid puke is probably the least uncomfortable and least gross one , over in seconds and 100% fine after (in my case at least)

Id ditch it all to be 100% opioid naive and have PF Oxy-IR 5mg tablets ……most euphoric & pleasurable opioid analgesic I’ve EVER taken. EVER. Same euphoric pleasurable feeling as Ritalin (Methylphenidate) gave me

Those two compounds would be my DOC and for an oral Speedball with a little Ethanol & cigarettes

LSD- 100ug tabs is therapeutic soul cleansing and connects you to Mother Nature & God…..on a beautiful summer day at a cottage, blue clear sky, a slamming hot Sun +30 , waterfront, swimming, good music, sizzling bbq, drinks, all the creature comforts, shower, washrooms, kitchen, fridge, beds, etc ……but surrounded by beautiful Mother Nature……stars at night with a roaring crackling bonfire, few close friends, etc…..nothing like it …, LSD-25 most amazing molecule ever synthesized…possessing dopaminergic properties that Psilocybin doesn’t have…9

Currently I take my daily oral hybrid Brompton Cocktail all scripted

Methadone
Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
Diazepam (Valium)
Pregabalin (Lyrica)
Ethanol - Gin + premium Belmont cigarettes

A tolerant, functioning working individual that gets a stockpile every 30 days, including 10ml glass vial of Testosterone 200mg IM bi-weekly …..AMAZING antidepressant & mood-boosting agent, enhanced energy & increased vigilance, outgoing, sociable, happy & friendly and the drive and mind set of a virile 19 year old Marine

Add an oral Brompton Cocktail to that…..and your cock’d N Locked, ready to Rock.

20 years + of responsible therapeutic usage and these daily compounds aren’t too dangerous when your body has been conditioned & tolerant to all substances.

 

[KurtAurelius]

Oxycodone is the best I ever tried but never had oxymorphone except it is present from oral use of oxycodone and is the reason why oral oxycodone is superior to all other ROA.

I’m an outlier but I enjoyed Bupe just as much, Bupe is just longer, Oxy is for when you want a quick fleeting super euphoric versus steady contentment.

 

[Billiams]

What did it feel like compared to the Heroin high?

Longer, less euphoric, somewhat mentally stimulating but way less than oxycodonoe. Body high is strong, easy to nod or mix with other stuff to get realllly powerful body highs. GABAergic stuff I mean
H is quicker, more intense & more euphoric with a stronger but shorter nod.

 

[Dextro .45]

Eukadol (Oxycodone HCL) was synthesized in Germany in the early 1900’s and patented ……along with Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) hypodermic tablets & injectable formulas, Heroin (Diacetylmorphine), Morphine, etc

Most opioids derived from Morphine are very sedating, histamine release, and frequently cause nausea, tolerance & addiction (obviously)

Eukadol (Oxycodone) which is synthesized from theBaine is actually a non-sedating POTENT and VERY EUPHORIC mu-opioid receptor agonist, with excellent oral bioavailability. In the original patent & Eukadol literature it actually specifies the drugs “narcotic type euphoria similar to Cocaine” ……Eukadol was actually Adolf Hitlers favourite drug, Dr. Morell often providing Eukadol via I.V. injection

Why did Purdue Pharma select Oxycodone for its NEW OxyContin……when MS-Contin (Morphine Sulphate) already existed……because oral Oxycodone is actually SIGNIFICANTLY more pleasurable then oral Dilaudid and various morphine type compounds

In my entire lifetime…….only Oxycodone & Ritalin (Methylphenidate) gave me significant overpowering euphoria, even better than injecting decent Heroin from 20+ years ago when it actually was Diacetylmorphine (which was confirmed by my urine analysis which showed the presence of 6-MAM & Morphine)

I will NEVER forget that unbelievable EUPHORIC BLISS that oral Oxycodone gave me …..ever

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Why did Purdue Pharma select Oxycodone for its NEW OxyContin……when MS-Contin (Morphine Sulphate) already existed

I can answer this beyond the obvious euphiroa aspect you covered. It boils down to two main things: 1) They had applied for and been granted an exclusive patent for time-release oxycodone. Which they knew would bring in massive profits if they could market it widely to people normally adverse to taking opioids. Number 2) is that the general public was naive about oxycodone being as addictive as morphine. Back in the 90s if you told someone you were on a morphine pill they figured you had cancer or were going to die soon. People were afraid of it and the other handful of opioids they knew about from TV and ER visits. They were weary of becoming junkies. These people were not aware that taking oxycodone (and hydrocodone) was the same thing as being placed on potent opioids/opiates they already knew about.

In other words oxycodone did not have the stigma of being "pharma heroin" at that time where morphine already did. The time release formulation of OxyContin is just the tip of the ice berg. In the mid-late 90s it was very common for GPs to prescribe potent opioids to very young children for things like minor throat soreness/coughing. Old well known medications like codiene were quickly being replaced with patented formulations of stuff like time release hydrocodone (Tussinex). The latter was deemed a better drug for children because of the taste (it tastes like candy) and having less issues with histamine reactions/possible life threatening allergic reactions.

It was also much more effective orally (more doses per weight = more profits) and would be made from a wider variety of material. Like the opium pods that were legal to grow within America at scale because they produced mostly thebaine instead of morphine. This fact is why you start to see a ton of new opioids hit the consumer market (meaning: tablets/orally dosed at home) starting in the 90s. Most all of them were derived from thebaine (hydrocodone, oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydromorphone and many others). The pharma companies maintained a massive crop of opium farms in places like Arizona at that time.

In the 80s-2000s there was a race going on between the pharma companies to get exclusive rights to market and patent re-formulations of existing drugs (usually through a time release mechinism) and patent new drugs. These would be aggressively marketed directly to GPs. When prescribed they cost much more money than existing generic drugs where no one had exclusive patent rights. The patents were set to expire every 10-15 years but often a company would re-formulate the time release and apply for another patent to extend that time frame.

The above allowed multiple people in the chain to charge insurance companies a lot of money on each individual pill/prescription. Something that cost pennies to produce could be sold for $1-10 per tablet on the controlled market within America. Most regular people never saw that cost coming out of their own pocket because insurance was picking up 80-100% of the bill in most cases. In other words: They ran a big scam. The more addicts they created the more profits they could bring in. Far more than they could make selling heroin to existing junkies on the street.

These methods were already well established by the time the 1990s rolled around. Purdue made massive profits off marketing Valium in a similar way during the 1950s-1970s. They were just pulling the same trick with a different class of drugs they already knew were addictive.

They have pulled the same trick multiple times: Market some new drug they claim isn't as addictive as the old cheap drug. Even though they know it's usually more addictive. Then it takes everyone 20 years or so to catch up and everyone says "How could we allowed this to happen?". Rinse and repeat and do it again.

Once the second war in the middle east started and the American military allowed opium farming again we see a massive uptick in production of all opioids starting around 2003. Which they kept going into the mid-2010s. After 2015 or so we start to see a massive decline in production once those lands were taken over by native factions again that outlawed opium farming. The US military wasn't there guarding the crops anymore. It's important to note that we saw both a jump in production on the legal and illegal sides of the opioid market in America during those years. Heroin (real heroin) started pouring in all over the country during the mid-late 2000s-2010s despite only being a staple drug in large open-air drug markets in select cities before. We hadn't seen heroin in every small town in America since the 1980s when it was run out after the war on drugs started. Heroin was one of the first things they stamped out in small town America because it wasn't as socially acceptable as cocaine was.

Anyway, my greater point in the legal side (pharma companies and families running them) were working hand-in-hand with the illegal side of the market. They knew that there would eventually be push-back with stuff like oxycodone. But it was very useful for them to produce a new generation of addicts. Who would eventually be forced to turn to street heroin and later back to drugs like bupe. In other words: They profited and won three times. Four if you count each death being a good thing, which they do (the same people that sell opioids on the legal market are the same people that advocate for massive reduction in the world's population).

This has gotten long (most of my posts do) but I've barely scratched the surface on this. The actual marketing they did towards the poor/middle class Americans in mostly rural-suburbian areas was really fucked up. Their own internal documents talk about how they wanted to market to elderly and middle aged patients because they knew their children would eventually get into the substances. They also go at length about marketing certain substances like tussinex (liquid time release hydrocodone) to very young children being a top priority because it would prime them to becoming addicted later in teenage/early adult years when they were exposed to opioids again as a result of injuries later in life.

The documents are also filled with casual racism towards poor-middle class white people who were the primary targets of the marketing effort. It reads like their goal from the start was to cause a drug crisis among white Americans and to bust up the family unit within that class of people. Ensuring that their children would not go on to have stable families of their own. There was a lot of that going on around the same time in other parts of society (the so-called "latch key kid" issue was primarily a problem among white families).

What I'm saying is they targetted the white communities in America with opioids like they targetted the black communities with crack cocaine. Different drug but same issues resulted on both sides. Same result on both sides: Bust up the family unit and make such people more reliant on the Government/system. If you manage to kill a bunch in the process that's great. They don't want us alive in the first place.

I personally believe I was primed to fall into the trap as my own GP as a child prescribed myself and my siblings liquid hydrocodone multiple times and I was regularly given hydrocodone tablets (usually about 5mg) for minor pain complaints and stuff like headaches. In my parent's defense my father eventually figured it out and stopped allowing the GP to give us the liquid hydrocodone and stopped breaking tablets in half to give me every few months after he realized he himself was getting addicted to opioids in the mid-late 90s. But by then the damage was already done.

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

I think that oxy is definitely the most euphoric overall when I first started using opioids at 14. What I wouldn’t give for my VERY first opioid experience of a single 5mg generic hydrocorone. God the first time I took 20mg of oral oxycodone when I first first started using opioids. Only a handful of months after that first hydro

 

[Dextro .45]

Wow Sir or Madam…….Simply WOW

Holy crap….I had to read that three times over to retain all the important clusters fuck of facts these Billion in not Trillion dollar FDA cock blowing Purdue Pharma flooding American civilian population of dependent forming addicting LEGALLY PRESCRIBED Rx Opioids ha ha

 

[Dextro .45]

The CIA and Ronald Regan to fund his B.s. war….FLOODED POOR BLACK COMMUNITY WITH SMOKABLE HIGHLY PURE COCAINE TROPAINE ALKALOID

The fucking CIA should be charged with criminal charges against the American people…..shameful

Where’s a Leuggie Mangioni when you need another one…… million dollar fines are pocket change

A hyper velocity FMJ is FOREVER (fuck Diamonds)

 

[RuffSamurai]

Oxycodone is the best I ever tried but never had oxymorphone except it is present from oral use of oxycodone and is the reason why oral oxycodone is superior to all other ROA.

I’m an outlier but I enjoyed Bupe just as much, Bupe is just longer, Oxy is for when you want a quick fleeting super euphoric versus steady contentment.

I’m still chasing that first no tolerance oxy 30 high. That’s what ruined my life. Lucky I got into it right when Fent started getting really bad. By the time you couldn’t even find real 30s anymore (2018ish) my tolerance was so high to real oxy that’s what probably saved my life from Fent. I remember being at like 150mg of oxy a day and trying heroin for the first time and everyone thought I was going to throw up and get really fucked up but I barely felt it (smoking black tar). So I kind of get what he means when he say oxycodone is the most euphoric opioid. Was always just chasing that oxy high with fentanyl and shit.

 

[RuffSamurai]

I’m still chasing that first no tolerance oxy 30 high. That’s what ruined my life. Lucky I got into it right when Fent started getting really bad. By the time you couldn’t even find real 30s anymore (2018ish) my tolerance was so high to real oxy that’s what probably saved my life from Fent. I remember being at like 150mg of oxy a day and trying heroin for the first time and everyone thought I was going to throw up and get really fucked up but I barely felt it (smoking black tar). So I kind of get what he means when he say oxycodone is the most euphoric opioid. Was always just chasing that oxy high with fentanyl and shit.

Those old oxy 30s were formulated to snort too. No pharmaceutical pill has ever been easier to crush and literally snorted as easy as the oxy 30s Vs.