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Opioids Methadone high & people using Methadone recreationally.

Gaz_hmmmm said:
I don't know where you're getting your info but a lot of that post is blatantly wrong and even conspiratorial nonsense.
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I actually bothered to read the leaked documents from the court cases quietly dismissed during covid around the same time the Sackler family fled the country with their ill gotten gains.

Please spare me and everyone else your left/right commie/free world nonsense. If you're still stuck in that mass psychosis there isn't much point in engaging with you.
 
Someone mentioned that IV methadone is the best opioid high, and I know for a fact that it is not since I’ve extracted my own straight from pure 10mg methadone pills in volume. Methadone has ZERO initial rush when taken intravenously even without an opioid tolerance, and the only good part about it is it will make you nod hard while still lacking any major euphoria kind of like fentanyl, but at least the methadone will keep you well for over a full day if you are in withdrawal.
 
Kellsee said:
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Thanks for taking the time to share that story. I miss the old OC 80’s, but I later moved on to doing IV heroin, so after like ten years I got myself a box of Suboxone strips off one of my friends and I tapered down slowly down to nothing in a few months.
 
I have to say .. I can barely tell I'm on methadone - barely even have constipation. Currently on 80mg, but thinking about getting it bumped to 120. That said .. I can eat 3g of heroin and go for a walk .. and not know I've eaten 3g of heroin so my tolerance is .. um .. abnormal. Started on fent and shifted to H when the fent wave passed (2010-ish if I remember correctly). To me at least it definitely feels much milder than H, but I just put it down to the half life and the regular dosing. Theres no up's and downs unless you double up a dose.

I have of course doubled a dose and felt .. no diferent. until the second morning after at which point I was hammering immodium just so I could get to the pharmacy for my dose at 9:30am. I wouldn't usually double up (I'd just get another opiate if I was desperate), but part of the reason I doubled was just to see if it was something to do with methadone. Given methadone is a "gift," from the government I don't like to abuse it so maybe some time I'll buy some illicity and go for a 2 1/.2 / triple (do not try that one at home kiddies), but it supposedly has a nonlinear dose response (more is a lot more) so I might have to be careful with that.

So .. no .. methadone has less than zero recreation value to me. The only up side is it makes me less likely to take other opiates.
 
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You said methadone gets in your bones.

This is a very old myth.
Methadone doesn't build up in the bones, it builds up in the fat cells and liver cells, this adds to the extra long half-life and extra long withdrawal as it's slowly released from those cells both when using and when you stop.
 
Gaz_hmmmm said:
You said methadone gets in your bones.

This is a very old myth.
Methadone doesn't build up in the bones, it builds up in the fat cells and liver cells, this adds to the extra long half-life and extra long withdrawal as it's slowly released from those cells both when using and when you stop.
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My knees and back never have been the same. They started aching while I was withdrawing from the methadone and have ached that way off and on ever since. Of course the drs tell me that it’s from the methadone. But that’s also really what it seems to be from. So I just figured it’s why people say that because it was true 🤷‍♀️
 
Kellsee said:
My knees and back never have been the same. They started aching while I was withdrawing from the methadone and have ached that way off and on ever since. Of course the drs tell me that it’s from the methadone. But that’s also really what it seems to be from. So I just figured it’s why people say that because it was true 🤷‍♀️
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Maybe methadone gets stored in the bone marrow but not the calcified parts that we associate with bones. IDK, it’s just a random thought that popped in my head while trying to figure this out in one way or another.
 
That makes sense. Plus I also have calcium oxalate kidney stones so I think my body pulls calcium from my bones anyways which I’m sure contributes to my pain. Idk. I’ve just always related to the methadone. But maybe not
 
Kellsee said:
My knees and back never have been the same. They started aching while I was withdrawing from the methadone and have ached that way off and on ever since. Of course the drs tell me that it’s from the methadone. But that’s also really what it seems to be from. So I just figured it’s why people say that because it was true 🤷‍♀️
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The reason your bones and everywhere else hurts during withdrawal is cause opioid receptors are the most common receptors in the body, they're literally almost everywhere cause you need to feel pain almost everywhere and also need the pain to be able to be stopped.
We can't feel pain in the brain though, in the sense that it can be cut without causing pain but obviously that's where we experience what we call pain.

Also regarding bone marrow I just looked it up and all three opioid receptors, mu, delta and kappa are present in bone marrow, so unfortunately we can feel pain there too.
It's apparently more so to do with immune cells and the the formation of blood cells and stem cells there but as we all know they are there too for pain incase of injury or like us, opioid withdrawal.

Methadone also builds up in the fat/adipose cells in bone marrow too. That wouldn't lead to pain when there is none, it'd be withdrawal and the presence of Opioid receptors without enough opioid agonists/methadone etc presence that'll cause the pain.
 
The first time I tried methadone it was fairly cheap (Turns out the kid stole his mothers stash) -- 15 mg's lit me up for like 12 hours. At the time I had a small hydro / snorted morphine habit.


ALL of this is OFF TOPIC
PS - For continuities sake that kid later left his mom in w/d while STILL HOLDING AND SELLING HER SHIT.. I once tried to buy a few extra to slide back to her and dude flipped the fuck out and said if I offered her PK's she would know he stole hers.
(Maybe, but she already did, of course) Dude ended up becoming a rat like the first time any pressure was put on him.

Sad knew that fucker from hockey since we were like 5, but he was always soft and greedy. (Damn cherrypicking puckhog!)
 
RIGHT! What an epic DICK. I remember in middle school noone really liked him and hed give handfulls or ritalin out if you would chill with him.

Lol one time (at band camp) he came over to smoke and the girl I was with told him to go to the store and to pay for her items.....and he did......than gave us ritalin without being prompted.

Dumb mofo was driving when him and his idget friends carshopped A COPS GUN AND BADGE --- hypothetically in a world close to ours I remember them showing up trying to off the gun. "Whered it come from" -- "Fuck that you guys, you never came here, I know nothing of this.....IF I WERE YOU ID PUT THAT SHIT BACK ON THE HOOD AND PRAY"

They apparently did not know how big of a deal it is when a cop gets his gun stolen --- at least to them....

I did tell them --- "Dude that cop is gunna be on blast till he retrieves that gun .... and the whole precinct gunna be trying to find it to protect him --- ya guys get change out of the counsel usually, you so far over your heads!"

They just like "Fuckoff someone will buy it" --- Yup an undercover cop!..... and all of them went down but one and thats only cuz there was one guy there that wouldnt spill the beans and the buck stopped there.
 
Gaz_hmmmm said:
The reason your bones and everywhere else hurts during withdrawal is cause opioid receptors are the most common receptors in the body, they're literally almost everywhere cause you need to feel pain almost everywhere and also need the pain to be able to be stopped.
We can't feel pain in the brain though, in the sense that it can be cut without causing pain but obviously that's where we experience what we call pain.

Also regarding bone marrow I just looked it up and all three opioid receptors, mu, delta and kappa are present in bone marrow, so unfortunately we can feel pain there too.
It's apparently more so to do with immune cells and the the formation of blood cells and stem cells there but as we all know they are there too for pain incase of injury or like us, opioid withdrawal.

Methadone also builds up in the fat/adipose cells in bone marrow too. That wouldn't lead to pain when there is none, it'd be withdrawal and the presence of Opioid receptors without enough opioid agonists/methadone etc presence that'll cause the pain.
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That all makes perfect sense. I also have irregular shaped red blood cells which has to affect the way oxygen is transported in my body. Mine are sphere shaped. My mom and sister are the same way. I’ve never been told that it would cause any problems but I don’t see how it wouldn’t
 
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